Calling All Noob Growers

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jumboSWISHER

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honestly, the first time making it rain made me realized what potential i had been missing out on my entire time growing. i had no idea any plant could have such vigerous growth haha
 

jumboSWISHER

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hey man, i gotta lil homie thts jus getting into growing. he's been burning a candle about 5-10 feet from his plants, and SWEARS tht it releases co2. this is incorrect, right?
im not to good with this kinda stuff so i jus wanted to make sure befor i say somethin n make an ass of myself haha
 

riddleme

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hey man, i gotta lil homie thts jus getting into growing. he's been burning a candle about 5-10 feet from his plants, and SWEARS tht it releases co2. this is incorrect, right?
im not to good with this kinda stuff so i jus wanted to make sure befor i say somethin n make an ass of myself haha

Yes it gives off CO2 but not sure just one would help much?

be sure and keep candles in a metal bucket (or something) to reduce fire damage possibilities

I read where a guy was using 3 candles

but also remember if your area is ventilated this is just going to suck the extra CO2 out and very little benefit
 

jumboSWISHER

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yea he's just got one 10 day old seedling, so i wudnt imagine he wud need added co2 in the first place? lol
but eh, atleast he cared enough to think of it. he's got it ina an antique candle lamp shade type thing so no fire risks. but thanks alot man! ill pass the info along =]
 

EdGreyfox

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Blazed,

You're going to be surprised by how much faster your plants start sucking up the water once you start using this method. Before i started this i was only needing to water every 5-6 days, but now its usually every 2-3 days at most. The plants I just stuck into flowering that had this method used through three weeks of vegging are actually needing water almost every day, though they are in smaller pots then I normally use (3.5 instead of 5 gallon).

As for the temperature thing, I agree that keeping it under 85 would be optimal, but it's not really an option for me currently. Right now those room are varying from anywhere between 65 and 90, with most of their time spent in the low to mid 80's. It only seems to get up over 85 in the late afternoon when my house has had all day to absorb the heat, and the lights go off early enough that the plants usually only have a few hours of that high a temp each day. Either way, this strain seems to be responding a lot better to the higher temps then the last strain I grew did (opium), so my first guess was that this particular strain must have genetics that are better suited to the hot and dry climates I live in. I know that DJ Short created this strain by crossing an Afghan, Thai, and one other land race Indica (can't remember which), so my guess may be pretty accurate.
 

Blazed Hippie

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Blazed,

You're going to be surprised by how much faster your plants start sucking up the water once you start using this method. Before i started this i was only needing to water every 5-6 days, but now its usually every 2-3 days at most. The plants I just stuck into flowering that had this method used through three weeks of vegging are actually needing water almost every day, though they are in smaller pots then I normally use (3.5 instead of 5 gallon).

As for the temperature thing, I agree that keeping it under 85 would be optimal, but it's not really an option for me currently. Right now those room are varying from anywhere between 65 and 90, with most of their time spent in the low to mid 80's. It only seems to get up over 85 in the late afternoon when my house has had all day to absorb the heat, and the lights go off early enough that the plants usually only have a few hours of that high a temp each day. Either way, this strain seems to be responding a lot better to the higher temps then the last strain I grew did (opium), so my first guess was that this particular strain must have genetics that are better suited to the hot and dry climates I live in. I know that DJ Short created this strain by crossing an Afghan, Thai, and one other land race Indica (can't remember which), so my guess may be pretty accurate.
I am by no means a close minded grower. Everything in my body wants to go against other peoples ideas, but I fight it like the plague cause I know that I am a newb and I will fail if i dont listen. This idea seems smart to me and after asking my parents about this they also agreed that making it rain in an indoor environment would cause better nutrient uptake, they also said this is something growers have been doing for years. Im excited to see what it does, I still got a long time till flowering tho....
 

808fatcloudsTWO

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wait...so lemme get this straight, if you put 3 times the pots capacity of water into the pot(flush it), it will release the h20 back into the air(wicking) without over watering the plant??..
n how do you know when it starts/ends the wicking period?,, liek is theyre any visual signs ??, besides the fact that it droops before this process ??, rite?...
please correct me if im wrong...also, is it safe to continiously flush your plant ?, liek every other week or something ?..
 

Blazed Hippie

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wait...so lemme get this straight, if you put 3 times the pots capacity of water into the pot(flush it), it will release the h20 back into the air(wicking) without over watering the plant??..
n how do you know when it starts/ends the wicking period?,, liek is theyre any visual signs ??, besides the fact that it droops before this process ??, rite?...
please correct me if im wrong...also, is it safe to continiously flush your plant ?, liek every other week or something ?..
did u read the thread? Outside it rains and it doesnt mess ne thing up. Why wouldnt it work inside? Nature does things for a reason, I really think hes onto something. Also flushing gets rid of all the nutrients and salts in the soil so you can re nutrient it when its "fresh"
 

riddleme

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wait...so lemme get this straight, if you put 3 times the pots capacity of water into the pot(flush it), it will release the h20 back into the air(wicking) without over watering the plant??..
n how do you know when it starts/ends the wicking period?,, liek is theyre any visual signs ??, besides the fact that it droops before this process ??, rite?...
please correct me if im wrong...also, is it safe to continiously flush your plant ?, liek every other week or something ?..

Absolutely! Did ya read the testimonials from the growers doing it, did ya see the plants they are growing?

and you simply test the soil and learn to read the plant and yes that takes a bit of time and perhaps some trial and error but it kinda becomes second nature once you start doing it

and as stated on page one it is better if you use a soiless mix
 

riddleme

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Finally got some pics from my friend I have told you about, like me, he is an old school grower that learned before HID's were invented (why we understand lights)

He built his garden under his basement stairs has a few CFL's and a few T8's growing a bagseed sativa and indica

enjoy the pics
 

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stonesour

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Riddleme has also come to my rescue. As you guys know its hard to get a response from anyone other than complete noobs while doing a grow on rollitup. I started having issues around week 4-5 with over nutes and didnt know what to do. The burn and salt build ups rapidly starting to deteriorate my plants. Riddleme came in and explained in great detail what was happening and how to fix it. Flushed with 3 times the amount of the containers with ph'ed water, and followed his direction for slowing adding nutes and cal/mag. My over nute salt build up seemed to have slowed greatly so I could finish my grow. Now im on week 7 and things are really starting to look good. Here are some pictures of the start of the burn and pictures now of what they look like. Thanks alot riddleme!!
 

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gumball

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Plant is looking to have bounced back very good. Was it a 12/12 from seed, or just a short veg time? It just looks small, but those buds are fattening very well.
 

stonesour

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Plant is looking to have bounced back very good. Was it a 12/12 from seed, or just a short veg time? It just looks small, but those buds are fattening very well.
Yeah it was 12/12 from seed, needed a harvest before june 1 for vacation smoke. I started end of Feb... Next grow in july will be full size. Thanks for the comment. Yeah they are getting real fat now!!!
 

gumball

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Yeah it was 12/12 from seed, needed a harvest before june 1 for vacation smoke. I started end of Feb... Next grow in july will be full size. Thanks for the comment. Yeah they are getting real fat now!!!
Hey, there's nothing wrong with 12/12 from seed. Just check out v12's perpetual 12/12 pc grow here https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/161995-pc-case-grow-stealth-perpetual-92.html. I have decided to try this he has done so well. My only downfall is I have a bunch of bagseed, so I will need to start buying fem'ed seeds or clonin to make it work right. Still a nice bush man, b proud
 

EdGreyfox

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Riddle,

I think I must have offended the Ganja Gods or something. My 600w flowering light decided to pull it's hooks loose from the ceiling today and took a header into my garden. Luckily it happend while I was home and it only directly landed on one plant, but it tore the one it did hit up pretty badly. It was one of the blueberries that just moved into flowering a couple days ago, and it pretty much ripped all the branches off one side of it. There are a couple that are still partially attached that I tied up tight in the hope that they would heal/graft back to the main stalk, but the plant is still in a pretty sad state. Any advice anyone can offer on ways to help the stalks that were partially torn off reattach or other advice on how to help her recover quickly would be appreciated.
 

gumball

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Riddle,

I think I must have offended the Ganja Gods or something. My 600w flowering light decided to pull it's hooks loose from the ceiling today and took a header into my garden. Luckily it happend while I was home and it only directly landed on one plant, but it tore the one it did hit up pretty badly. It was one of the blueberries that just moved into flowering a couple days ago, and it pretty much ripped all the branches off one side of it. There are a couple that are still partially attached that I tied up tight in the hope that they would heal/graft back to the main stalk, but the plant is still in a pretty sad state. Any advice anyone can offer on ways to help the stalks that were partially torn off reattach or other advice on how to help her recover quickly would be appreciated.
make sure you use a stretchy material to mend the "grafted" limbs together. i have read it allows the plant to stretch as it heals. an ace bandage should work, or even better would be something that sticks to itself that stretches. hope this helps.
 

jumboSWISHER

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heyy riddle, this morning an old family friend i havent seen in probly 10 years stopped by. he's an old school hippie type guy, i remember missing the first day of 5th grade to help manicure at his warehouse lol so i trust his judgement, n his warehouse is still up and running after all these years so i trust his growing methods. but he wus checkn out my setup, and givin me sum pointers. he mention something about "pruning", i think he jus calls it that tho. but he wus saying something about how he clips all his fan leaves in half on the lower branches. or clips em completely off. he said it makes the plant focus on the buds, and will make em double. something about the sugar leaves transport energy to the buds more efficiently. im not totaly sure wut he wus talkn bout, cuz bein so happy ta see him n stuff we smoked ALOT.... haha. but i figured since you've been around learning methods for years n years maybe you've heard of this. or something similar to this. sound crazy as fuck? or reasonable? lol
 

EdGreyfox

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I may end up doing that if these branches don't heal back to the plant, though right now I've got enough clones potted that I'm taken care of for the next 3 rotations.

Figured I'd share some pictures of the oldest pair of blueberries I have going currently (week 3 of flowering). Luckily these two girls were off to the side of the light when it fell, so they came through without a scratch. I also am adding a pic of the main cola from the stunted opium i harvested Friday- Considering it's size it really makes me wonder what would have happened if these plants had grown to their full potential.
 

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riddleme

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heyy riddle, this morning an old family friend i havent seen in probly 10 years stopped by. he's an old school hippie type guy, i remember missing the first day of 5th grade to help manicure at his warehouse lol so i trust his judgement, n his warehouse is still up and running after all these years so i trust his growing methods. but he wus checkn out my setup, and givin me sum pointers. he mention something about "pruning", i think he jus calls it that tho. but he wus saying something about how he clips all his fan leaves in half on the lower branches. or clips em completely off. he said it makes the plant focus on the buds, and will make em double. something about the sugar leaves transport energy to the buds more efficiently. im not totaly sure wut he wus talkn bout, cuz bein so happy ta see him n stuff we smoked ALOT.... haha. but i figured since you've been around learning methods for years n years maybe you've heard of this. or something similar to this. sound crazy as fuck? or reasonable? lol
I would say part of that whole stress em to make resin myth thing similar to stickin a thumb tac in em etc.

But most of that stuff comes from old hippie growers so what are ya gonna do? :bigjoint:
 

jumboSWISHER

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I would say part of that whole stress em to make resin myth thing similar to stickin a thumb tac in em etc.

But most of that stuff comes from old hippie growers so what are ya gonna do? :bigjoint:
haha yea diffinatly came from old hippie growers. you think its worth experimenting with on a stunted clone i have flowering?
 
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