What lighting to buy for 6-8 plants producing 26oz+ in 3' x 4' area

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iceman77776

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Hello all,
i was just Looking forsome peoples opinions on what to do with a grow area like this,
http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7674/frontviewpy.jpg

i have a rough idea, the left part (2ft 10 x 3ft 9) will be Veg room.
Im going for max yeild (4oz+ per plant) and il need to keep clones and mother plants in here.

Any ideas?

Also for the Space on the right which is the flowering room, i was thinking like a 600W HPS, not sure if i should get an aircooled one though. This is the inside of a wardrobe in a bedroom. The Sliding door would be on the front.

i have £600 budget.
 
MistaKris

MistaKris

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i dont think your going to get the weight you are looking for from a 600 it will be hard to pull that kind of weight off a 1000 and yes an air cooled hood would be a good idea...
 
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iceman77776

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Hmm..
somebody else told me it would be fairly easy to pull 4+ oz per plant with my 600 HPS, with an indica dominant strain.
im just stuck for ideas i guess. I dont know what to do with the space i have..
i Just want some decently potent budds with high yield.
 
alexonfire

alexonfire

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You are going to have to veg for a while to get the plants big enough to produce that much, you should also go with a DWC setup. 600w but if you can get a 1000 you might as well if you got good enough ventilation
 
Michiganman247

Michiganman247

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Do whatever you can keep cool. 1000w seems like a lot for a 3x4 area but if you can do it go for it. You will need a air-cooled hood...
 
FarmerNinja

FarmerNinja

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for sure you need air cooled hood i would get a 1000w and supplement it with some daylight CFLs and a super HPS bulb. i duno who gave you that info but even the best growers try to achieve that much weight. and if you've never done it before then, well, good luck mate
 
That 5hit

That 5hit

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dude your going to need like 2, 1kw lights
to get 1.5lbs if not more lights then that, even then there's no telling the outcome, by this being your first grow this size
(the fact that you are asking lets me know that you have never attempted a grow this large)
what you need to do is find grows (on here) with that type of yeild then strat form there find out what they did

but i would start with :
8 plants (fem seed or clone)
a high yeilding strain
grown in soil
in 5gal pots
lst'ed for 8 weeks
12/12 under 2, 1kw hps
done in a Co2 inriched sealed room
 
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iceman77776

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really appreciate the help,
i guess i might need to change the grow location. I can use my garage but i dont think there are any fresh air vents in there although the temps are pretty low atm.
another thing. My budget is fairly low to afford 1kw air cooled HPS. Plus Co2 enrichment.
im stuck for ideas. I may have to get 600 HPS for now and get a 2nd one after my 1st grow.

I Dont know where i read it but i heard some people have gotten 8.5 ounce from 1 plant..

here was my 1st choice, i either space out 6 plants so they take more light, or do 8 plants but cram them a little bit.
What would the experienced grower do.
My main factor is Yield.
 
IAm5toned

IAm5toned

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the only time ive ever gotten more than 3-4 ounces of one plant, it was vegged for 8-12 weeks and then flowered outdoors or under some serious HID lighting, like 1200w or higher.
i usually dont grow trees like that anymore, there fun to grow, but take too long. you can get more in the same amount of time by running a SOG, and with a much lower wattage
 
M0de Grow

M0de Grow

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maybe throwing a few cfls for vegging? the hps will help a lot on flowering so thats good but if you dont have a lot of money right now some 65 watt actual's like 4 of them will help and there only like $15each
 
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iceman77776

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great. so
if i wanted say, 20+ ounces every 2 months how would you recommend i achieve this,
if lets say my budget would be around $900 or £600, and space isnt a problem.

my plant limit was only 6-8 because of law and police issues
 
Brick Top

Brick Top

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FarmerNinja said:
i would get a 1000w and supplement it with some daylight CFLs and a super HPS bulb.
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You are talking about 1000-watts of HID lighting in an area roughly 3’ by 4’ and you think a handful of CFL’s will make an appreciable difference?

Unless you are talking about several of the large actual grow light CFLs, like 200-watts each or higher, preferably higher, the difference a handful of the home lighting CFLs that many people use for grow lights added to a 1000-watt HID in that size space would be about as much as a 3-year old boy would alter the level of Lake Superior by peeing in it.

If it was felt a mixed light spectrum would be needed different bulbs could be used at different times. For early-mid veg a straight MH, 6500K, for later veg and early flower one of the dual arc bulbs which would give off 600-watts of HPS and 400-watts of MH both at the same time from the same bulb, the single bulb in the 1000-watt system. Too finish flower, straight HPS.

If I felt the lighting of a 1000-watt system needed tweaking in that size of an area that is what I would do, instead of adding a handful of birthday cake candles to a light that puts out a great deal of light on its own.
 
dadio161

dadio161

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you should learn to grow first before you expect to get enormous yields from crops. Start with smaller crops, make a little money and invest in more equipment.
 
tea tree

tea tree

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he could get lucky I have seen it here before. And for the watt goal most good growers get 1.5 per watt and newbs are always bragging about hitting 1 g a watt or yur right at least half. Veg for a few months and then top early too and use co2 and get the temps right and you could hit yur yeild. Subcool always brags the 8 ounces so do a lot of other growers. They do trees. I would use peat and hydro nutes. Soiless. Actually if spave is dine I would use five gallon dwc buckets or bigger and a big ass air pump. GH nutes and get aph pen cuz it hurts.
 
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iceman77776

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How tall should i Veg my plants too. and What light do you recommend using to Veg my plants so that when i flower them i get max yeild.
And if the left side of my grow room

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/7674/frontviewpy.jpg

is not suitable size for Mothers and clones i will find somewhere else for my mothers


and also i dont know if i will be able to afford a 1000W Air cooled HPS plus all of my Hydro trays, res, pumps, nutes etc for my £600 budget
any ideas?
 
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