Five myths about immigration

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bud nugbong

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Why hasn't this ignorant racist been banned?


Anywho, illegal immigrants don't qualify for 99 percent of benefits, according to the IRS are more likely to pay taxes than a citizen, and have lower incarceration rates.

This should automatically make all arguments moot.
I dont belive that one bit. you must employ a bunch of these illegals on a farm or something and want the cheap labor.they are a burden that all taxpayers suffer for. and they all stank.!!!

and the gov could spend thier time doing that but they are busy making up new bullying laws and other important things
 

kendothegreenwizard

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Why hasn't this ignorant racist been banned?


Anywho, illegal immigrants don't qualify for 99 percent of benefits, according to the IRS are more likely to pay taxes than a citizen, and have lower incarceration rates.

This should automatically make all arguments moot.
Uh huh! Uh huh! and the tooth fairy is boning little orphan annie. I have to say that has to be the most ridiculous statement I have yet read in ANY debate concerning Illegal immigrants to date. You do know that when you start calling people names such as racist you have lost any standing to be judged as anything more than those you direct names at.
Racist
Sexit
Islamophobic
All names that are a favorite of the FAR left extremists.
Lets do this by the numbers. Follow the bouncing ball with me.
Have you ever heard of Document fraud, YES? OK! That is one way that Illegals procure benefits. THere are many others. THe number you throw out is per fabrication 99% or 99 bottles of beer on the wall?
The next fabrication.. Illegals are more likely to pay taxes. REALLY!! how would they pay taxes without document fraud, which by virtue of elimination crushes your first fabrication. Further, the VASt majority of illegals work under the table. You are familiar with what under the table means don't you . AS far as lower incarceration rates. Lower than what? Lower than who? I lived in a community that was 30% illegals, they would steal anything that wasn't tied down from everybody. It didn't matter if you werr white, Mexican, mexican-american, black. My neighbor who was Mexicam BTW had to stop the PAISAS from stealing his landscape shit consantly. THey would come and dig up his plants to replant them in other peoples yards for their landscaping business. That shit happens all the time.
At Christmas time one year there were like 250 burglaries where they stole every thing, all the presents and anything that wasn't tied down. It was Sureno gangster illegals.
I hope you call me a racist so I can laugh at you... Why would i laugh at you? because my adopted sons are African american and Mexican and I grew up with Mexicans and love Mexican food and my best friend in the world is...... Mexican? You got that right...
 

estesj

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Why hasn't this ignorant racist been banned?


Anywho, illegal immigrants don't qualify for 99 percent of benefits, according to the IRS are more likely to pay taxes than a citizen, and have lower incarceration rates.

This should automatically make all arguments moot.
Dude don't come on riu with your first post with this kind of bullshit! So you are saying the police should be fired too right? They do just what I'm talking about everyday. Anywho you have been reported for calling me an ignorant racist. Name calling is not permitted on riu.
 

Big P

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Anybody wonder why LEGAL AMERICAN CITIZENS in Arizona are glad they passed this new law? And WHY others should follow? Here's why.

The following information IS compiled from Federal Bureau of Investigation and Department of Homeland Security:


83% of warrants for murder in Phoenix are for illegal aliens.

86% of warrants for murder in Albuquerque are for illegal aliens.

75% of those on the most wanted list in Los Angeles, Phoenix and Albuquerque are illegal aliens.

24.9% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals

40.1% of all inmates in Arizona detention centers are Mexican nationals

48.2% of all inmates in New Mexico detention centers are Mexican nationals

29% (630,000) convicted illegal alien felons fill our state and federal prisons at a cost of $1.6 billion annually

53% plus of all investigated burglaries reported in California, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and Texas are perpetrated by illegal aliens.

50% plus of all gang members in Los Angeles are illegal aliens

71% plus of all apprehended cars stolen in 2005 in Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, Nevada and California were stolen by Illegal aliens or “transport coyotes".

47% of cited/stopped drivers in California have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 47%, 92% are illegal aliens.

63% of cited/stopped drivers in Arizona have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 63%, 97% are illegal aliens

66% of cited/stopped drivers in New Mexico have no license, no insurance and no registration for the vehicle. Of that 66% 98% are illegal aliens.

380,000 plus “anchor babies” were born in the US to illegal alien parents in just one year, making 380,000 babies automatically US citizens.

97.2% of all costs incurred from those births were paid by the American taxpayer


Look out other States....here they come.
Maybe they all otta move to DC!!!



and guess how they fund this shit,


with your hard work and the fruits of your own labor, taking the food right outa my kids fucking mouths to deal with foriegn nationas crimes spree's

its a fact if the feds dotn do somthign the states will, if states dont do somthing the people will and there will be war murder & chaos



heres a small example of what we are brewing for our furture youths, they are already at eat others throats: abe and hannimal are clueless and they have been that way since day one, almost like argumentative monky's, (I said almost:hug:)



welcome to the United Estates



UPDATE: American flag shirts ignite school firestorm...

Parents keeping kids home...

Hispanic students march through downtown for respect...
Texas School Suspends Student for Removing Mexican Flag...



UNEMPLOYMENT UP TO 9.9%


RNC: OBAMA'S 'NEW NORMAL' IS UNACCEPTABLE...


Stocks Dive Worldwide on European Debt Concern...


Fears for impact on USA...



you guys are right we got plenty of chedder and jobs come on in take a shit on america
 

hanimmal

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Eh, whatever.

Either people don't want to admit there is a large American economic benefit for these people coming in and filling in positions at a price that the rest of society benefits or they won't.

If you refuse to see and understand that we need our American workforce educated and specialized and not just cheap laborers when there are plenty of people that would like to do the work that doesn't require any skills other than what we are born with. So be it.

I mean what does it matter that we have a public school system in place that is everywhere, community colleges that are easily paid for with a school loan that will allow you to get the full benefits of what that education will provide while having a very extended period of time after you finish your education to pay back (while you make far more than before).

And all those millions of our unemployed numbers are pretty surprising when you look at them by education level:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t04.htm


Educational attainment Apr. 2010
Less than a high school diploma 14.5
High school graduates, no college(1) 10.5
Some college or associate degree 8.1
Bachelor's degree and higher(2) 4.4

Pretty much full employment during this recession for people with degrees. Because they are very much needed.

So keep complaining about illegal immigrants and how they are taking our jobs, or complaining how businesses keep moving over seas, or whatever alienating emotional response people are going to inevitably take. Because in the end we are only going to be as successful as the level of our workforce. No matter how many crappy toys we make or how many stocking shelves jobs we have it won't help us to not stagnate.

But we didn't get it in the 80's when factories were allowed to move out of the country because we cannot tell labor unions to get off the tit of the people. So why would we get it now.


So keep it up, continue to piss and moan about our 'welfare state' and how paying taxes is so bad (and the occasional nutter ranting about some random bit like vaccines that will give everyone autism) or whatever else that pops into a internet blog somewhere. And not realize that all those things should be set up (and most are) so that we can fully take advantage of our system and become economic powerhouses.

And instead of even for a second thinking of these people as good for our society to the point someone would be able to make 2/3 their income with out doing anything besides figuring out a way to either get back to work or get an education to become more marketable and competitive for not only a job, but a better career.

Dude don't come on riu with your first post with this kind of bullshit! So you are saying the police should be fired too right? They do just what I'm talking about everyday. Anywho you have been reported for calling me an ignorant racist. Name calling is not permitted on riu.
I mean why would that person say that, I mean it is not like you said these things right?
No because they should have done it right the first time. Now there actions make them sneaky little wet backs and should get no second chance!
Or do what what all the G's do around my way and rob the mexicans every time they get a chance.
Y'all should get a studio apartment together so you can spoon and watch HBO together. You could hire some illegals to clean the place up and maybe hang some new drywall. hahahahah!
I saw a mexican bitch on the curb outside of wallgreens pharmacy the other day with her totty out breastfeeding her baby like this is the 3 world desert or some shit! Don't even get me started on wallmart with all the dumb ass non english speaking wetbacks they have on staff.
 

Parker

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Anywho, illegal immigrants don't qualify for 99 percent of benefits, according to the IRS are more likely to pay taxes than a citizen, and have lower incarceration rates.

This should automatically make all arguments moot.
your facts are off. The illegals receive welfare. That is a fact that only someone who is uniformed or is a liar will disagree with.
You also lie about paying taxes. Many illegals work contract labor for cash. The money is not reported by them OR their employers.

They benefit from our public education system at the expense of legal citizens who didn't line jump. They qualify for free school lunches which hard working legal Americans pay for. Schools have to be built to accommodate them. Who pays for that? answer legal Americans The majority of illegals who come here are not working high paying jobs in order to take care of themselves. They are here for the welfare. Factor in the cost of government aid needed by legals who are out of work because of crooked employers who hire cheap illegal labor.

Go spread your bullshit elsewhere.
 

estesj

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Eh, whatever.

Either people don't want to admit there is a large American economic benefit for these people coming in and filling in positions at a price that the rest of society benefits or they won't.

If you refuse to see and understand that we need our American workforce educated and specialized and not just cheap laborers when there are plenty of people that would like to do the work that doesn't require any skills other than what we are born with. So be it.

I mean what does it matter that we have a public school system in place that is everywhere, community colleges that are easily paid for with a school loan that will allow you to get the full benefits of what that education will provide while having a very extended period of time after you finish your education to pay back (while you make far more than before).

And all those millions of our unemployed numbers are pretty surprising when you look at them by education level:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t04.htm


Educational attainment Apr. 2010
Less than a high school diploma 14.5
High school graduates, no college(1) 10.5
Some college or associate degree 8.1
Bachelor's degree and higher(2) 4.4

Pretty much full employment during this recession for people with degrees. Because they are very much needed.

So keep complaining about illegal immigrants and how they are taking our jobs, or complaining how businesses keep moving over seas, or whatever alienating emotional response people are going to inevitably take. Because in the end we are only going to be as successful as the level of our workforce. No matter how many crappy toys we make or how many stocking shelves jobs we have it won't help us to not stagnate.

But we didn't get it in the 80's when factories were allowed to move out of the country because we cannot tell labor unions to get off the tit of the people. So why would we get it now.


So keep it up, continue to piss and moan about our 'welfare state' and how paying taxes is so bad (and the occasional nutter ranting about some random bit like vaccines that will give everyone autism) or whatever else that pops into a internet blog somewhere. And not realize that all those things should be set up (and most are) so that we can fully take advantage of our system and become economic powerhouses.

And instead of even for a second thinking of these people as good for our society to the point someone would be able to make 2/3 their income with out doing anything besides figuring out a way to either get back to work or get an education to become more marketable and competitive for not only a job, but a better career.



I mean why would that person say that, I mean it is not like you said these things right?
Thank you for quoting me so many times in case someone missed my proud American views! I am now famous and will be signing autographs tonight.
 

Parker

Well-Known Member
Eh, whatever.

Either people don't want to admit there is a large American economic benefit for these people coming in and filling in positions at a price that the rest of society benefits or they won't.

If you refuse to see and understand that we need our American workforce educated and specialized and not just cheap laborers when there are plenty of people that would like to do the work that doesn't require any skills other than what we are born with. So be it.

I mean what does it matter that we have a public school system in place that is everywhere, community colleges that are easily paid for with a school loan that will allow you to get the full benefits of what that education will provide while having a very extended period of time after you finish your education to pay back (while you make far more than before).

And all those millions of our unemployed numbers are pretty surprising when you look at them by education level:
http://www.bls.gov/news.release/empsit.t04.htm


Educational attainment Apr. 2010
Less than a high school diploma 14.5
High school graduates, no college(1) 10.5
Some college or associate degree 8.1
Bachelor's degree and higher(2) 4.4

Pretty much full employment during this recession for people with degrees. Because they are very much needed.

So keep complaining about illegal immigrants and how they are taking our jobs, or complaining how businesses keep moving over seas, or whatever alienating emotional response people are going to inevitably take. Because in the end we are only going to be as successful as the level of our workforce. No matter how many crappy toys we make or how many stocking shelves jobs we have it won't help us to not stagnate.

But we didn't get it in the 80's when factories were allowed to move out of the country because we cannot tell labor unions to get off the tit of the people. So why would we get it now.


So keep it up, continue to piss and moan about our 'welfare state' and how paying taxes is so bad (and the occasional nutter ranting about some random bit like vaccines that will give everyone autism) or whatever else that pops into a internet blog somewhere. And not realize that all those things should be set up (and most are) so that we can fully take advantage of our system and become economic powerhouses.

And instead of even for a second thinking of these people as good for our society to the point someone would be able to make 2/3 their income with out doing anything besides figuring out a way to either get back to work or get an education to become more marketable and competitive for not only a job, but a better career.



I mean why would that person say that, I mean it is not like you said these things right?
You don't get it because of your inability to understand economics and your inability to take the thought process to the next level. In a nutshell you don't understand the meaning "at what cost".
Although the welfare grabbing illegals are taking jobs there are other costs associated. They burden our schools and hospitals. A huge majority of illegals are working low paying jobs because immoral employers know they will work for the lower wages. If you don't understand that people with low paying jobs receive more in government aid then that's your failing.

two elementary schools in my area
Eligible for discounted/free lunch:
one school 1104 students 99% receive free or reduced lunch
another school 631 students 87% free lunch 7% reduced price lunch
 

westhamm1132

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man i think all migrants who come to the 1st world from worse off contreys are pussys they bail on there contery istead of makeing it better we had 2 civil wars and a revolution and the u.s had 1 aswell freedom isnt free your people have to pay a high price for it often costing millions of lives but these people run and cry and sit about starving to death instead of fighting.

the somalians are scered of a buntch of retards with guns so are the mexicans what douse that say about there race they DESERVE nothing less than death for LETTING these people get away with it.
 

estesj

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man i think all migrants who come to the 1st world from worse off contreys are pussys they bail on there contery istead of makeing it better we had 2 civil wars and a revolution and the u.s had 1 aswell freedom isnt free your people have to pay a high price for it often costing millions of lives but these people run and cry and sit about starving to death instead of fighting.

the somalians are scered of a buntch of retards with guns so are the mexicans what douse that say about there race they DESERVE nothing less than death for LETTING these people get away with it.
Good point man!
 

Big P

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its soo funny how hannimal is getting pissed on by the government so they can have their precious votes, we are all getting pissed on by them but hanni pretends like its a good thing and opens his mouth lol


kinda like Stockholm syndrome,


you act as a elitist like you know everything.


have you ever said a humble thing on this site?

like " ok you guys are right, i was wrong"


in think your incapable of that from what ive seen so far but "maybe your right, i could be wrong" :-P




BUCKLE UP!



some nerve these people telling us we should spend even more on illigal immagrants while our nation is crumbling to the ground


you guys dont realize it but obama and his cronies hate capitalism and thier true aim is to destroy it to usher in thier socialist "fundimental transformation of America"

you dont have to even belive that hes doing it on purpose (which he is but he has to dance a fine line to trick the fools), but its exactly what they are doing just open your eyes.


you remeber when the econmy first collapsed all of obams cronies were whispering here and there see capitolism is a failure looooooool


just like our socialist friend said a few posts back from UK

hes one of them.


bunch of losers destroying our country LOSERS who cant fend for themselves so they relie on a puppet master to spoon feed them while they pillage you fathers' nation

some of you guys are fucking disgracful








 

estesj

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Is he from America. If so he must live in a non infested area because if he did there would be NO WAY he would not share our views.
 

Big P

Well-Known Member
I think we are officially living i bizzaro world where the US president is a socialist and the russian president:





Russian president slams 'totalitarian' USSR
May 7 08:10 AM US/Eastern

President Dmitry Medvedev on Friday slammed the Soviet Union as a totalitarian regime that suppressed human rights, in the most damning assessment of the USSR by a Russian leader in recent years.
In an interview with the Izvestia newspaper published two days before Russia marks the 65th anniversary of victory in World War II, Medvedev said the crimes of wartime dictator Joseph Stalin could never be forgiven.
"The Soviet Union was a very complicated state and if we speak honestly the regime that was built in the Soviet Union... cannot be called anything other than totalitarian," he said.
"Unfortunately, this was a regime where elementary rights and freedoms were suppressed."

Medvedev and his predecessor in the Kremlin, Prime Minister Vladimir Putin, have until now rarely criticised the Soviet system and instead focused on its achievements.
"Medvedev has made a very strong declaration which has been awaited for a very long time," Russian human rights activist Lev Ponomarev, usually one of the Kremlin's harshest critics, told AFP.
Putin, still seen by most observers as Russia's de-facto number one leader, once famously described the collapse of the Soviet Union as the "greatest geopolitical catastrophe" of the 20th century.
The president -- who succeeded Putin exactly two years ago on May 7, 2008 -- said that after its World War II triumph, the Soviet Union failed to allow its economy to develop.
"This was accompanied by deaths and everything connected with dictatorship," commented Medvedev.

Medvedev also issued his clearest condemnation of Stalin, who is blamed for the deaths of millions in prison camps, purges and the forced collectivization of agriculture, yet is still admired by many Russians as a strong leader.
"Stalin committed a mass of crimes against his own people," said Medvedev.

"And despite the fact that he worked a lot, and despite the fact that under his leadership the country recorded many successes, what was done to his own people cannot be forgiven."
Russia is due to mark Victory Day on Sunday with a giant military parade attended by a host of world leaders and featuring 10,000 Russian troops and nuclear-capable missiles, as well as British, French, Polish and US soldiers.
Parade preparations were overshadowed by a controversy about a plan to hang posters of Stalin, initially proposed by the Moscow municipality but then scrapped, reportedly on Kremlin orders.
Medvedev rubbished the notion that Stalin won the war for the Soviet Union, saying that "the Great Patriotic War was won by our people, not by Stalin or even the generals."
Both of Medvedev's grandfathers fought in the Red Army.

Western historians have for years said an overconfident Stalin was stunned by the German invasion in 1941 and Medvedev admitted the Soviet Union could "have prepared more carefully" for the Nazi attack.
Long criticised by human rights activists and Western historians for painting too rosy a picture of the Soviet past, Russia has over the past months taken cautious steps towards eroding powerful taboos over its wartime history.
Last month it published on the Internet documents proving that Soviet secret police massacred Polish officers at Katyn forest in 1940, a crime the USSR long attempted to cover up by blaming it on the Nazis.
Katyn "was a very dark page.... It is not just those abroad who allow history to be falsified. We ourselves have allowed history to be falsified," Medvedev said.
Political analyst Alexander Konovalov, director of the Institute for Strategic Evaluations, said that Medvedev was moving little-by-little to change Russian public opinion on history.
"These comments will contribute to re-establish historical truths," he said.


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Polecat

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Mexico sucks. I know I wouldn't want to live thier niether. Can't blame them for wanting to be here in the US.
They no the laws and the consuquences (witch are not shit). If you make a dollar in America you pay taxes on it no matter who or what you are. If this was the law no one would have much of a arguement.
 

estesj

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They better know the street laws and pack some heat when them jack boys come runnen up to jack that cash!
 

ejo

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1- The IRS made it VERY possible for illegal immigrants to pay income taxes (with ITINS)... almost 8 million income tax payers and most of them didn't file a return... most of the ITINS numbers came from border states too.

"In 2004, the IRS got 7.9 million W-2s with names that didn’t match a Social Security Number. More than half were from California, Texas, Florida and Illinois, states with large immigrant populations, leading experts to believe they likely represent the wages of illegal immigrants. Even immigrants who use ITINs to file taxes are forced to make up a Social Security Number when they get a job."

Thats roughly 60-75 percent of the estimated illegal immigrant population. Not to mention that most illegal immigrants are in states with sales taxes. And anyone using ANY social security card (whether fake or not) is paying into medicare and social security.

Whats funnier is that a little less than half of citizens pay income taxes... kinda sad, no?

" But one indicator is the 9 million W-2 forms with mismatched names and Social Security numbers it received in 2004. The IRS said the W-2 forms with invalid Social Security numbers reported about $53 billion in wages and about three-fourths of that, $40 billion in wages, had taxes withheld."

2- Illegal immigrants don't qualify for the grand majority of programs. If they have a legal citizen child at most they will recieve help FOR THE CHILD. A family can't survive on 150 dollars a month. Seriously have any of you ever talked to a social worker? Getting welfare benefits is almost impossible if you don't have that legit social security number.

3- Its not hard to find incarceration numbers people. Why do blacks account for a third of the prison population while making up only about 15 percent of the population? And why do illegal immigrants account for only about 4.5 percent of the prison population when they make up 5-8 percent of the US?

Somethings arent adding up, but what I do know is that none of you guys are posting any actual factual information. Just posting the same internet rumours. The fact that half of you here aren't even debating statistics but rather ranting about people that speak spanish is pretty pathetic.

And the ones that can't form an argument outside of "illegal is illegal" have obviously never heard of Marijuana laws.
 

estesj

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Roomer! I live in Florida and we are infested by illegal scum leaches. Until you live in that situation and first hand get food taken off your families table because of wetbacks taking our jobs because they work for next to nothing then your little copy and paste bullshit means nothing. I'll crack a mother fuckers skull for fucking with my family life! Fuck those illegal fucks!
 

Mindmelted

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1- The IRS made it VERY possible for illegal immigrants to pay income taxes (with ITINS)... almost 8 million income tax payers and most of them didn't file a return... most of the ITINS numbers came from border states too.

"In 2004, the IRS got 7.9 million W-2s with names that didn’t match a Social Security Number. More than half were from California, Texas, Florida and Illinois, states with large immigrant populations, leading experts to believe they likely represent the wages of illegal immigrants. Even immigrants who use ITINs to file taxes are forced to make up a Social Security Number when they get a job."

Thats roughly 60-75 percent of the estimated illegal immigrant population. Not to mention that most illegal immigrants are in states with sales taxes. And anyone using ANY social security card (whether fake or not) is paying into medicare and social security.

Whats funnier is that a little less than half of citizens pay income taxes... kinda sad, no?

" But one indicator is the 9 million W-2 forms with mismatched names and Social Security numbers it received in 2004. The IRS said the W-2 forms with invalid Social Security numbers reported about $53 billion in wages and about three-fourths of that, $40 billion in wages, had taxes withheld."

2- Illegal immigrants don't qualify for the grand majority of programs. If they have a legal citizen child at most they will recieve help FOR THE CHILD. A family can't survive on 150 dollars a month. Seriously have any of you ever talked to a social worker? Getting welfare benefits is almost impossible if you don't have that legit social security number.

3- Its not hard to find incarceration numbers people. Why do blacks account for a third of the prison population while making up only about 15 percent of the population? And why do illegal immigrants account for only about 4.5 percent of the prison population when they make up 5-8 percent of the US?

Somethings arent adding up, but what I do know is that none of you guys are posting any actual factual information. Just posting the same internet rumours. The fact that half of you here aren't even debating statistics but rather ranting about people that speak spanish is pretty pathetic.

And the ones that can't form an argument outside of "illegal is illegal" have obviously never heard of Marijuana laws.


But here you are just copy and paste shit and call it a argument.

Unless you have to deal with the reality of illegal immigration on a daily basis you know shit.

Now move along ejo,I hear your mom calling.

I live in florida 2 and these fuckers need to go.And my brother says the same thing in colorado.
 
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