My plants are dead

[citystars1117]

I didn't transplant these at all, I started them off in dixie cups like 4 months ago when they where seedlings, and since then I have had them in the 5 gal buckets, and as far as the nutes go.....I had a full bottle of poland spring....like a 12 oz bottle, and I took 4 tsp of the tigerbloom, and put it into the bottle of water, shook it up, and poured it on the first plant, and then the other plant, and the other, and so on and so forth.

 

[citystars1117]

and everyone keeps telling me to flush them out with just straight water.....so judging by when i just said, do you think flushing would even do the trick? or should I just focus on the big plant and kill the rest....if thats even possible to kill them anymore.

 

[StonedBlownSkiller]

That's "2 tsp per gallon of water", not gallons of soil. How much water was added?

right, i didnt think you could put nutes directly into soil. sorry bout ur plants man but shit thats a shitty way to learn.

 

[windowgrower]

wow your plants are goners, sorry.... you gave your plants nutes at 20X strength you realy need to read more

 

[Denofearth69]

Dude, this is why I stick with pure compost tea brewed by little ol' me. If you listen to the posts of guys like Potologist, Uncle Ben, Bricktop, riddleme, you'll see that many of these mass produced nutes are simply way more potent than they need to be. That is why you have to start small, and adjust nutes slowly so plants become accustomed to the overdose of nutes. With REAL organics, you never have to worry about nute burn, or in your case kill, as properly composted organic materials will supply plants with ONLY as much as they can use, and not this silly overkill mass produced products are notorious for. I know the Fox Farm lovers will disagree, but from seedling/clone, through finished plants I have never seen nute burn even once, plants are absolutely covered with trichs, and in my outdoor garden, I have some monsters I expect to yield pounds per plant. check em out.

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Oh, and compost teas seem to buffer the soil, and Ph stays at consistent 6.3-6.7.

 

[StonedBlownSkiller]

I dont think theres any hope, if the big one makes it, it might taste like shit. idk, never done it.

 

[windowgrower]

1 gallon= 128 ounces 128/12= 10 plus you used 4 tsp instead of 2 so that 2*10= 20x strenght

 

[trichlone fiend]

...yeah, you slip'd on that. You have salts built up around your roots that are probably locking out all the elements. Flushing your plant's soil would be the best measure to take in your situation. A good rule of thumb would be to flush with 3 gallons of water per gallon of soil. Flush your soil very, very slowly....water them, then come back in a 1/2 hour and water again, over and over and over.... You need to try to loosen/dilute the salts, and it will take lots of water in your 5 gal pots. ( try to use dechlorinized water at a minimum, RO water for best)

...if you decide to go another round, remember next time to go lite with the fertilizers until you see how your ladies react.....baby steps brother, baby steps. Sucks to be you right now, I'm goin to leave you with that. Good luck man.

 

[bajafox]

I'm still skeptical about using nutrients. I've been using a fraction of the recommended use on my clone for a few days now, my biggest fear is a nute burn. Good luck with those plants, hopefully they can recover. Is there anything on them healthy enough to clone maybe?

 

[trichlone fiend]

I'm still skeptical about using nutrients. I've been using a fraction of the recommended use on my clone for a few days now, my biggest fear is a nute burn. Good luck with those plants, hopefully they can recover. Is there anything on them healthy enough to clone maybe?

Denofearth69 has a very good point, and for anyone skeptical of adding fertilizers to your soil, organic teas are the way to go. Overfertilizing isn't such an issue, nor is pH balance. I've grown in soil w/ Fox Farm's trio many times...and Fox Farm's trio can not hold a candle to the yield I get w/ my organic tea. I'd drop my copy and paste below for anyone interested.


What you'll need:
Seabird guano, bat guano, earth worm castings, kelp meal (or liquid seaweed), molessas, a bubble stone and bubble pump, a paint strainer. 5 gallon bucket.
What to do:
Get a couple of gallons of water from tap....let set on bubbles over night to dechlorinize it, then pH balance the water to 6.5....take a couple tablespoons of each (worm castings, seabird, bat, kelp, molessas) and put inside paint strainer and tie shut...hang the mix over the bubble stone to make movement/activity in the water....let set for 24-48 hours....put 2 cups of this per gallon to new dechlorinized pH balanced water, then water in once weekly.

...you'll want to back up off of the earthworm castings and the seabird guano in mid flower to eliminate nitrogen avalibility.
...the molessas and liquid seaweed are liquid , however, still use table spoon measurements.
...stop giving tea @ weeks 5 for an 8 week strain, or allow a couple weeks to leach/flush (not so important organically but, I prefer to save the $)

 

[ogreballerina]

Flush the big one..ASAP ! You might save it.

Or clone ASAP...

 

[defcomexperiment]

The chart said "2 tsp per 1 gallon" so I have them in 5 gallon buckets. filled up with soil about half way, so I put 4 tsp in each one.

it is clear what he did... that amount of fert is not meant to be taken in by the plant at one time or watered on the plant at one time. not to mention you dont want to use straight concentrate ever.

 

[Denofearth69]

Denofearth69 has a very good point, and for anyone skeptical of adding fertilizers to your soil, organic teas are the way to go. Overfertilizing isn't such an issue, nor is pH balance. I've grown in soil w/ Fox Farm's trio many times...and Fox Farm's trio can not hold a candle to the yield I get w/ my organic tea. I'd drop my copy and paste below for anyone interested.


What you'll need:
Seabird guano, bat guano, earth worm castings, kelp meal (or liquid seaweed), molessas, a bubble stone and bubble pump, a paint strainer. 5 gallon bucket.
What to do:
Get a couple of gallons of water from tap....let set on bubbles over night to dechlorinize it, then pH balance the water to 6.5....take a couple tablespoons of each (worm castings, seabird, bat, kelp, molessas) and put inside paint strainer and tie shut...hang the mix over the bubble stone to make movement/activity in the water....let set for 24-48 hours....put 2 cups of this per gallon to new dechlorinized pH balanced water, then water in once weekly.

...you'll want to back up off of the earthworm castings and the seabird guano in mid flower to eliminate nitrogen avalibility.
...the molessas and liquid seaweed are liquid , however, still use table spoon measurements.
...stop giving tea @ weeks 5 for an 8 week strain, or allow a couple weeks to leach/flush (not so important organically but, I prefer to save the $)

You've got that right trichlone fiend. Also with organic teas ( I am blessed to have actual compost to make mine so mine is free ) flushing soil isn't required because your not adding unusually high levels of nutes. Forgot to mention that in my grow room I have added 4-5 earthworms to each of my plants great for aeration and worm castings delivered directly into soil.

 

[citystars1117]

Well thanks to everyone, I'll try flushing them and see what happens, and everyone else......I'd pretty much say never ever do what I did, and to keep it simple, just keep it all natural and let nature do its thing, and water, dont worry about nutrients and all that stuff. Its a weed......and I am a dumba$$

 

[ogreballerina]

Can you buy teas retail?

I'm severely disabled so I can not go through the whole process of making it myself...sending someone to the store I can do.

 

[trichlone fiend]

Can you buy teas retail?

I'm severely disabled so I can not go through the whole process of making it myself...sending someone to the store I can do.

...Fox Farms "Big Bloom" is organic, and can be used as a tea, however...I doubt you get quite the same yield. Also GH Flora Blend.

...you could try online >>> http://www.google.com/products?q=organic+compost+tea&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&oe=UTF-8&um=1&ie=UTF-8&ei=qek9TMrjBsT_lgfIou37BQ&sa=X&oi=product_result_group&ct=title&resnum=3&ved=0CDgQrQQwAg

 

[thalboy]

Can you buy teas retail?

I'm severely disabled so I can not go through the whole process of making it myself...sending someone to the store I can do.

I think you can but you'll want to buy it fresh. Teas can turn anaerobic if they sit for more than 2 days or so. You do not want to use anaerobic teas.

 

[rocpilefsj]

Well at least now you know what not to do next time. Live and learn my friend.

 

[ogreballerina]

I think you can but you'll want to buy it fresh. Teas can turn anaerobic if they sit for more than 2 days or so. You do not want to use anaerobic teas.

Thanks....

I'll ask around town and see if anybody is making any...half the people in my town grow...drive down the streets and all you see is reddish orange glows at night coming from half the buildings.

@trichlonefiend...I use FF Big Bloom already...but I'll peruse the link..thanks.

 

[Lowphat]

Dude, that sux...sorry to hear the bad news.But thanx for posting this because you'll help educate noobs from making the same mistake.

I'm new and plan on using the fox farm nutes.I've already planned on starting with using 25% mixture per gallon of water at first when I begin feeding and gradually get up to 50% .I don't think I'll ever use the 100% recommended amount during my grow.


Good Luck,

Low