HPS, MH, Floros, Phillips Cermamic Metal Halide has 'em all beat.

[ThatOneDude]

'IF' indeed.

The starter of this thread is pushing too hard.

If he's a member of other forums and these things work then we would hear about them that way. He wouldn't need to sound so desperate.

the end of the light is the coolest anyway.

I'd ratherwait for evidence they are worth the money. I'm quite happy for you to provide the evidence lumber, up to you.

I started the thread and I've got nothing to sell you man. I just gave the info that I had learned. To a lot of people, it's a better way to go, it's cheaper then an HPS bulb, and has plenty of other benifits, but, once again, I'm not selling the bulbs. If your looking for them in a hydro store, they will be marked up, there's a number of websites out there that sell the bulbs. Mine cost $53, if you want the link to where I bought it, pm me but there a plenty of places that sell them.

 

[stickyicky77]

I need to see where I can order one from or maybe in town at the local hydro-hangout....

I am not sure if this is the same bulb. I have been considering this one i found advertised in " the growing edge" hydro magizne EYE Hortilux Lamps. I not sure if this one comes in 400w

 

[ThatOneDude]

i think they still get hot; notice the hps rod is still blue, not red yet....

They don't get red hot, I still have it on from eariler today and I can still touch the bulb.

 

[cbk123]

That's right--OBEY...Buy this Bulb. Haha. Shit man, I've just been following this here thread, getting a little interested myself--doing research. Thought I would try and help out by showing where they were cheeper...I'll keep my mouth shut next time.

 

[GoodFriend]

That's right--OBEY...Buy this Bulb. Haha. Shit man, I've just been following this here thread, getting a little interested myself--doing research. Thought I would try and help out by showing where they were cheeper...I'll keep my mouth shut next time.

no no...

i'm gonna use those bulbs to get my light when i get the money...

i like you still!

its just that the thread kinda seems like an infomercial for a while... haha

 

[tahoe58]

hey thanks for that....I took a look. and they (EYE) also have CMH bulbs....so I'm not sure if this is some other "hybrid"....making for some interesting reading and thinking time.....MY BUD NEEDS TO BE READY TO DO THIS PROPERLY!!!!!

I am not sure if this is the same bulb. I have been considering this one i found advertised in " the growing edge" hydro magizne EYE Hortilux Lamps. I not sure if this one comes in 400w

 

[kindprincess]

That's right--OBEY...Buy this Bulb. Haha. Shit man, I've just been following this here thread, getting a little interested myself--doing research. Thought I would try and help out by showing where they were cheeper...I'll keep my mouth shut next time.

it didn't go unappreciated

but you have to admit, even from your perspective; the first post you make on this site is basically an add. helped me, but you have to understand how the mods see it too...

 

[kindprincess]

hey thanks for that....I took a look. and they (EYE) also have CMH bulbs....so I'm not sure if this is some other "hybrid"....making for some interesting reading and thinking time.....MY BUD NEEDS TO BE READY TO DO THIS PROPERLY!!!!!

it's def sparking my interest; one of those links provides a spectrum chart; check it out...

 

[GoodFriend]

I'd ratherwait for evidence they are worth the money. I'm quite happy for you to provide the evidence lumber, up to you.

i'm only going to be taking on vegging responsiblities here for the next half a year or so... but i'll def test it out in a couple months if i don't completely forget

 

[tahoe58]

yea I've been comparing that between the different OEMs and against hps and regular mh.....I like the fact that the spectrum is fatter in the lower wavelengths...below 400....the temp is mid...highly efficient 95L/W and 90+CRI...though 400W is "only" 38,000 lumens compared to my super hps which I believe is suppose to be 55,000?

 

[ThatOneDude]

it didn't go unappreciated

but you have to admit, even from your perspective; the first post you make on this site is basically an add. helped me, but you have to understand how the mods see it too...

Haha, I am in sales, I just don't sell light bulbs. It's just habit for me to be "selling" in the way I talk. I also like to instigate a little, it helps keep people's interests up and makes things a little more fun......until someone's feels get hurt, then it's just fucking hilarious! Seriously, I'm not pitching light bulbs folks, just showing another option for our lighting needs. Sorry it sounded like an infomercial but I'm to the point when it comes to benefits of a product.

 

[cbk123]

You must be the CEO of Phillips! Found you Out. Haha
I was wondering what type of ballast you are using? Brand? Does it seem to light the bulb well. Thanks

 

[ThatOneDude]

LOL Yeah, I'm the CEO of Phillips and I figured I could sell more bulbs to pot growers then I could to warehouses or businesses so I decided to pitch them here. I bought my ballast at HTG Supply, I bought a 400 watt HPS set up so I have that bulb too. There are sites that sell just the ballast for about $50 that you wire up yourself.

 

[ThatOneDude]

The simple fact is guys, I accomplished what I set out to do. Showed all of you there are other options out there and that you can save a few bucks....actually a good bit. One bulb replaces 2 bulbs that are each twice the cost......and from what I see, it's one of the most popular thread here right now.

 

[kindprincess]

but you used two identities to do it?

 

[stickyicky77]

yea I've been comparing that between the different OEMs and against hps and regular mh.....I like the fact that the spectrum is fatter in the lower wavelengths...below 400....the temp is mid...highly efficient 95L/W and 90+CRI...though 400W is "only" 38,000 lumens compared to my super hps which I believe is suppose to be 55,000?

They do have a 400w and a 430w. check this out Hydrofarm - Eye Hortilux BUSD430B Hortilux Super HPS Enhanced Spectrum Bulb, 430W

 

[ThatOneDude]

but you used two identities to do it?

I don't have 2 identities.

 

[GoodFriend]

i think she thinks you and cbk are the same person??

 

[HashPlant]

People get hung up on how many watts and how many Lumens without understanding what they are for.

- It think your being a little over zealous in your analysis of the spectral graph from phillips website. Indeed i think you don't know what lumens are and what that method of measurement is used for.

-The graph lists relative energy clearly on the left, meaning that it's normalized over the wavelength. E = ch/Lamda(wavelength), but in this case they are just using RE = ch. Just thought I'd point that out.

- I find it EXTREMELY HARD TO BELIEVE that a lamp putting out 39000 lumens, 3/4 of what a phillips hps alto puts out @ 50000 lumens has a higher relative energy at every wavelength in the visible spectrum and does it at a cooler temperature. No way imho.

- See that big green spike in the middle of your wonderful retro white's SPD, that's totally useless light, and you can subtract that from all the performance numbers phillips puts out. (btw since human eyes are optimized for light around 500 nm "green", and lumen is a measure of the perceived power of light, adjusted to human eyes, it makes up a large portion of the lumens rated). The regular phillips alto achieves all those lumens purely in the longer wavelengths. It's not that human eyes are much less sensitive to this yellow/red light, but at least it's useful, and it's a $5 bulb, lol.

all imho

 

[HashPlant]

Also, just because you CAN grow plants with them, doesn't mean they are the ruler and god of all lights, evident by the crazy mofo's with grow journals on this site who grow way to big plants with cfl's, and visually they look successful.