Voting Against Prop 19 means :

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The Potologist

The Potologist

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voting against the safest and most defenseless medicine on the planet earth

voting against the millions of lives ruined by marijuana prohibition everyday

voting against the movement which we worked so hard for 70 years

voting against the CHANCE that you wont make as much money when all likelyhood you will make more and be safer - effectively voting against yourself.

voting against the truth that all marijuana use is medicinal and safe

voting against THE PEOPLE

Voting for hypocracies that marijuana shouldnt be legal cause its a medicine and that no human has the right to use it for recreation

Voting against the herb and telling the Government that you believe in prohibition, you are okay with being a suppressed victim of prohibition. That the mexican mafia is okay. That the black market is where you like to get your drugs. That you dont care about the laws?

Seriously, lets set ones own selfish desire aside. Even those who are responsible for Prop 19 agree that it is not perfect, but its our start. There is absolutely NO REASON TO VOTE AGAINST IT. IF YOU DO, YOU SUPPORT :

Prohibition ( kinda odd/hypocritical to be a prohibitionist but consume cannabis)
DONT SUPPORT MEDICAL MARIJUANA ( supporting against Prop 19 means you WANT PROHIBITION...which includes Medical or not)

THE DEA ( they believe regulation or legalization is a "Non-Starter". Prop 19 is our start. Either you are with Prop 19 or with the Dea and the whole "non-starting" ideologies)

The Mexican Mafia ( or any illegal growers) They REALLY dont want any regulation or legalization.

You Also are telling the Government that ITS OKAY TO BE A VICTIM OF PROHIBITION. I guess some people have not suffered enough consequences of Prohibition. Moreso, Nothing like an invitation to suppress the people and its plant!!

THIS IS SO SO SAD. We are a Cannabis Forum!!!! TO say you are against Prop 19 is just tragically ignorrant. ( I say that with no disprespect to ANYONE).


Laslty, we are a reformed society. We have more amendments than any other country. We start with Prop 19 and amend it from there. The Pros and Cons are way to obvious and clear here. Personally...if prop 19 fails.....shame shame shame on us! We have our chance...if you consume cannabis or believe that A PLANT HAS A RIGHT TO BE FREE AND NOT SUPRESSED, or have had enough of being a victim of prohibition, or dont want the mexican mafia around anymore, or want to grow your own medicine or get it from some other place other than the black market ...Than do the RIGHT FUCKING THING...HIT THE YES BUTTON COME NOVEMBER!!!

AS things stand right now...The Government has FULL CONTROL. They have TOLD US NO WE WONT regulate and legalize. When WE SHARE THE POWER, WE HAVE A SAY...Until then....Dont bitch, whine, cry because its illegal. Moreso....Make sure to hit yourself REAL FUCKING HARD...RIGHT IN THE BACK OF YOUR OWN HEAD...IF you vote NO and get caught up in a pinch....bet you will wish for Prop 19 then!!!

Voting Against SHOULD BE NON OPTIONAL!!! IF YOU DO, GO JOIN THE CRIMINALS IN THE MEXICAN MAFIA>>>THATS WHO YOU ARE SUPPORTING IF YOU VOTE AGAINST IT. THERE IS NO TWO WAYS AROUND THAT FACT!!!!!

Lets do this People! Prop 19 is not perfect, but its our chance to send a very clean message to the Federal Government. Dont be selfish, do THE RIGHT THING...VOTE FOR PROP 19 in November!!!

Peace, Love, and Happiness
 
The Potologist

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My biggest Point that I really wish to say and clarify as much as possible is this ...VOTING AGAINST PROP19 Means You believe that INNOCENT CHILDREN BEING KILLED OVER OUT PLANT is CONDONABLE and is a situation that can "wait" because the measure in place to get rid of that is not "good enough or is bad"....If You think that INNOCENT CHILDREN CAN WAIT FOR A BETTER PROP...PLEASE GET THE FUCK OUT THIS PLANET....These are CHILDREN PEOPLE that ARE BEING SLAIN!!! KILLED BY DRUG LORDS...Seriously WHAT IN THE HELL DOES IT TAKE TO SHOW ONE THAT VOTING AGAINST PROP 19 IS SUCH THE WRONG THING TO DO. If you have kids, and you vote against Prop 19....seriously....fuck outta here with calling yourself a parent or even a human. ITS OUR DUTY TO PROTECT OUR KIDS...PASS PROP 19

Peace, Love, and Happiness
 
CultivationArt

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Vote yes, iv been around on these stupid vote no on 19, it will destroy 215 and overule sb 420.
well it wont, thats all bull shit ass rumors stated by people who hate for a living. Pass this link.
my step father is a doctor who know all rights to 215 ofcoarse, as well as 19, pass this link
and provide the infromation around. it need to be seen. VOTE YES ON 19


PROP. 19 IS THE BEST THING TO HAPPEN TO MMJ PATIENTS SINCE PROP. 215

Anyone who claims that Proposition 19 will restrict or eliminate rights under the Compassionate Use Act (CUA) or the Medical marijuana Program (MMP) is simply wrong. If anything, Proposition 19 will permit individuals to grow and possess much more than ever before with patients, coops and collectives still receiving the same protections they are entitled to under the CUA and MMP.
 
mr2shim

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Don't vote no on prop 19. That's so arrogant. At least it's giving marijuana a change. No law or bill is perfect, yes prop 19 is far from perfect but it is a HUGE step in the right direction. That's why you should vote for it. Turning it down would only make matters worse. It will only postpone the legality of it longer and that is wrong.
 
Needofweed

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prop 19 is bad for small business
go to youtube-search-marijuana walmartization then google-oakland marijuana massproductin.
if you know someone who owns a hydro supply shop or any other small busines that is assotiated with small local grow opps they will probibly go out of businuse due to "BIG MARIJUANA".
 
Dan Kone

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Needofweed said:
prop 19 is bad for small business
go to youtube-search-marijuana walmartization then google-oakland marijuana massproductin.
if you know someone who owns a hydro supply shop or any other small busines that is assotiated with small local grow opps they will probibly go out of businuse due to "BIG MARIJUANA".
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How come the current large grow ops don't put smaller growers out of business then?

There is nothing new about large California grow ops. What you mean to say is that ending prohibition is bad for current commercial growers that make high profits due to risk.
 
Needofweed

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Dan Kone said:
How come the current large grow ops don't put smaller growers out of business then?

There is nothing new about large California grow ops. What you mean to say is that ending prohibition is bad for current commercial growers that make high profits due to risk.
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no it bad for local business that depend on local growers to buy products like "fox farm nutrients" and hydrofarm light".
ever wounder why it illegal to grow tabacco in almost every state,ever heard of "BIG tabacco" they made it that way.
how long before "BIG marijuana" lobbies for the samething. remember that they will sell it for a profit so if you grow your own they make no mony.
 
Dan Kone

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Needofweed said:
no it bad for local business that depend on local growers to buy products like "fox farm nutrients" and hydrofarm light".
ever wounder why it illegal to grow tabacco in almost every state,ever heard of "BIG tabacco" they made it that way.
how long before "BIG marijuana" lobbies for the samething. remember that they will sell it for a profit so if you grow your own they make no mony.
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So you support prohibition then?
 
Needofweed

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i believe in decriminalization of cannabis,not legalization.
prop 19 was made up buy big business for big business
i do not support big business.
i support cheap good weed for all.
i support the Right to grow your own.
i support small business.
i support legal marijuana.
i do not support prop 19
 
Dan Kone

Dan Kone

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Needofweed said:
i believe in decriminalization of cannabis,not legalization.
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i support legal marijuana.
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lol?

i support cheap good weed for all.
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The current system does not allow for good cheap weed. The markup is over a 1000% for indoor, several thousand percent for outdoor. That's not cheap. Bud has roughly the same value as the pre-recession price of gold. That's an insane price.

If it was legal, there is no way it stays that high.
 
bigv1976

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I am sorry but it makes me sick to be in a state where weed is 100% illegal and listen to some shitbag whine over the idea that legalizing weed will cut down on their profits. Fuck you and your profits.
 
Needofweed

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look lets get one thing strait first and formost im not trying to disresrect anyone. this is my point of view. i want just as bad to have legal bud in the state i just dont think that prop 19 is the right way to do it. also im not talking about growers and there profits im talking about small companies that depend on todays maket wich will be destroyed buy big marijuana corporations. i know full well that there is larg scale marijuana ops exist in cali but they dont go down to to local head shop to buy a quart of nutrient or 12 plastic pot or a hydro set up. they buy bulk from big manufactering companies.also why is there such harsh restritions on how much people can grow at there own homes, because "they"(big marijuana) dont want competition.it says that a person can grow at a private residents in a 25 squared foot area. theres no specification on how many people at the resedent can grow,in othere words i live with 4 othere people all over the age of 21 and this prop does not garantee all of use individual 25 square foot plots. insted it sugguest that each household use a 25 foot plot regardless of the number of people in the house hold that use marijuana. this again is to prevent compitition with corporations what will try and monopolize the industy.
one othere thing legal bud does not mean full scale legalization of bud. theres no county in the world that has legal bud to the extent that prop 19 alows
 
Needofweed

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california needs to take a duth approach at it.

The regulations

The Dutch have divided drugs into two groups, depending on their influence on human health – soft drugs and hard drugs. Hard drugs as cocaine, LSD, morphine, heroin are forbidden in the Netherlands as in any other country.
Soft drugs as cannabis in all its forms (marijuana, hashish, hash oil) and hallucinogenic mushrooms (so called magic mushrooms or paddos – from Dutch: paddestoel - mushroom) are legal under condition of so called “personal use”. As a result smoking of cannabis even in public, is not prosecuted as well as selling it although technically illegal under still valid Opium Act (dating from 1919, cannabis added as drug in 1950), is widely tolerated provided that it happens in a limited, controlled way (in a coffee shop, small portions, 5 grams maximum transaction, not many portions on stock, sale only to adults, no minors on the premises, no advertisement of drugs, the local municipality did not give the order to close the coffee shop).
 
mr2shim

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bigv1976 said:
I am sorry but it makes me sick to be in a state where weed is 100% illegal and listen to some shitbag whine over the idea that legalizing weed will cut down on their profits. Fuck you and your profits.
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I will give you a internet pat on the back. That's exactly how I feel. Maybe Prop 19 is the paving way to get marijuana legal across the US. You'll always have idiots shit on solutions for their own selfish reasons. It's really pathetic but it's part of life. They don't give a shit about Marijuana and why it should be legal, all they care about are themselves and how much money they are bringing in.
 
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