Voting Against Prop 19 means :

[tc1]

You obviously have never grown Cannabis.

I currently provide meds to myself and three others. My garden is over 300 sq. ft. I need that space. If 19 passes, I'll find out where you live and take your crop, along with 10 other prop 19 supporters.

My wife's good health is far more precious to me than your life.

Your short sightedness and lack of understanding of the current system will cause you a lot of grief if you think you'll benefit from this bill.

If I'm forced to reduce my grow, I'll be spending whatever it takes to have this law overthrown.

It can't pass muster with the California Supreme Court. To many loopholes and deception is evident if you read Prop 19 and the Health and Safety codes as they are currently written.

This might require some literacy on your part. A difficult thing to find among prop 19 supporters.

Please ... there's plenty of people on this website who have grown more with less. If you can't grow pounds of marijuana in a 25 square foot setting then perhaps you should learn from those on this site and others who ARE doing it. I mean for heavens sake ... there's people on here growing close to a quarter pound in rubbermaid containers using CFLs and/or low watt hids. That's what? a 4-6 square foot grow area? But you can't grow pounds with 25 square feet? Riiiiight ......

And once again ... YOUR grow operation would fall under Prop 215 guidelines ... NOT Prop 19. You wont have to reduce your grow area, because you fall under medical need ...not recreational.

Prop 215 = Medical
Prop 19 = Recreational

I have absolutely NO idea why some of you continue to perpetuate this lie that somehow Prop 19 will effect Prop 215 patients. It simply won't.

 

[tc1]

so they say..if it passes we'll have to see i guess..i just dont want them to make a big deal if i wanna grow 10-20 plants and right now i only have space for 1-6 but in the future i wanna do it bigger..what i read said u can POSSES one Oz (28g)..

I don't say anything ... It's written in Prop 19. And yes, you can only possess 1 ounce on your person. That does not include the marijuana you harvest in the privacy of your own home. In other words, don't travel will more than an ounce and you'll be fine.

As far as how many plants you can have .... that simply depends on the design of your grow room. You can't go over 25 square feet but there is no plant limit under Prop 19.


BTW ... under Prop 19 an ounce of marijuana is defined as 28.5 grams. So yeah ... you get an extra .15 grams.

 

[Matt Rize]

Prop 215 = Medical
Prop 19 = Recreational

I have absolutely NO idea why some of you continue to perpetuate this lie that somehow Prop 19 will effect Prop 215 patients. It simply won't.

If you can convince me that will be true, in every town and county in cali, I will vote yes. This includes my current right to drive around with up to three pounds.

 

[LsdgotAholdofMe]

from what i've seen, most who are against prop 19 are fools facing the fact they may have to go out and get a job instead of selling bags of weed

 

[tc1]

If you can convince me that will be true, in every town and county in cali, I will vote yes. This includes my current right to drive around with up to three pounds.

Sections of Prop 19 states:

7. Ensure that if a city decides not to tax and regulate the sale of cannabis, that buying and selling cannabis within that city’s limits remain illegal, but that the city’s citizens still have the right to possess and consume small amounts, except as permitted under Health and Safety Sections 11362.5 and 11362.7 through 11362.9.

11362.5 = Prop 215

Section 8 of Prop 19 states:

8. Ensure that if a city decides it does want to tax and regulate the buying and selling of cannabis (to and from adults only), that a strictly controlled legal system is implemented to oversee and regulate cultivation, distribution, and sales, and that the city will have control over how and how much cannabis can be bought and sold, except as permitted under Health and Safety Sections 11362.5 and 11362.7 through 11362.9.

Again 11362.5 = Prop 215


As far as recreational ... I can't guarantee uniform legislation because Prop 19 specifically states that local municipalities will have the right to regulate marijuana the way they see fit as long as it does not overstep Prop 19 (Which is a POSITIVE step for marijuana activism)

In general (like most state laws), local municipalities will use Prop 19 as precedence. The differences will be in determining regulatory systems for the sale and tax of non-medical marijuana if they choose to do so.

 

[Matt Rize]

Section 8 of Prop 19 states:

8. Ensure that if a city decides it does want to tax and regulate the buying and selling of cannabis (to and from adults only), that a strictly controlled legal system is implemented to oversee and regulate cultivation, distribution, and sales, and that the city will have control over how and how much cannabis can be bought and sold, except as permitted under Health and Safety Sections 11362.5 and 11362.7 through 11362.9.

11362.5 = Prop 215


As far as recreational ... I can't guarantee uniform legislation because Prop 19 specifically states that local municipalities will have the right to regulate marijuana the way they see fit as long as it does not overstep Prop 19 (Which is a POSITIVE step for marijuana activism)

In general (like most state laws), local municipalities will use Prop 19 as precedence. The differences will be in determining regulatory systems for the sale and tax of non-medical marijuana if they choose to do so.

Thanks. Localities may tax the shit out of medical Cannabis to the point of prohibition? Because a big part of medical Cannabis as it is right now is about recovering our expenses. So medical Cannabis sales to dispensares may or may not be heavily taxed? If 19 opens that can of worms, that would suck.

 

[tc1]

Thanks. Localities may tax the shit out of medical Cannabis to the point of prohibition? Because a big part of medical Cannabis as it is right now is about recovering our expenses. So medical Cannabis sales to dispensares may or may not be heavily taxed? If 19 opens that can of worms, that would suck.

Under Prop 19 .... Prop 215 provisions can NOT be changed. Section 7 and section 8 or both EXEMPTIONS for Prop 215 patients.


Let me make this clear .... Prop 19 has exemptions for 11362.5 (Prop 215) patients and caregivers.
Prop 19 and Prop 215 are two completely different pieces of legislation for two completely different uses.

Prop 215 = Medical
Prop 19 = Recreational

People saying otherwise are using scare tactics and pure propaganda to get medical marijuana patients to vote no on Prop 19.

 

[veggiegardener]

Please ... there's plenty of people on this website who have grown more with less. If you can't grow pounds of marijuana in a 25 square foot setting then perhaps you should learn from those on this site and others who ARE doing it. I mean for heavens sake ... there's people on here growing close to a quarter pound in rubbermaid containers using CFLs and/or low watt hids. That's what? a 4-6 square foot grow area? But you can't grow pounds with 25 square feet? Riiiiight ......

And once again ... YOUR grow operation would fall under Prop 215 guidelines ... NOT Prop 19. You wont have to reduce your grow area, because you fall under medical need ...not recreational.

Prop 215 = Medical
Prop 19 = Recreational

I have absolutely NO idea why some of you continue to perpetuate this lie that somehow Prop 19 will effect Prop 215 patients. It simply won't.

If you haven't read and compared thew Health and Safety codes, you don't know what you're talking about.

I want links to every garden producing two ounces per square foot.

I don't see them.

You are obviously guessing.

What dispensary do you work for?

In Oakland?

 

[tc1]

Health and Safety Code 11362.5 IS Prop 215.

Prop 19 Section 7 and Section 8 gives exemptions to people who fall under 11362.5 (Prop 215)



Good grief .... you're arguing against FACTS.

 

[veggiegardener]

Under Prop 19 .... Prop 215 provisions can NOT be changed. Section 7 and section 8 or both EXEMPTIONS for Prop 215 patients.


Let me make this clear .... Prop 19 has exemptions for 11362.5 (Prop 215) patients and caregivers.
Prop 19 and Prop 215 are two completely different pieces of legislation for two completely different uses.

Prop 215 = Medical
Prop 19 = Recreational

People saying otherwise are using scare tactics and pure propaganda to get medical marijuana patients to vote no on Prop 19.

Wrong again. Anything unspecified under Prop 215 is subject to rules defined in Prop 19.

215 doesn't mention grow areas. Prop 19 does.

If passed, corrupt local LEOs will be trying to bust anyone with over 25 sq. ft.

Get your facts straight, instead of making assumptions.

You don't understand the issues.

STFU.(at least until you inform yourself.)

 

[veggiegardener]

Health Code 11362.5 IS Prop 215.

Good grief .....

Correct!

Have you READ it? Do you see any mention of area allowed?

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

 

[Cali.Grown>408]

I don't say anything ... It's written in Prop 19. And yes, you can only possess 1 ounce on your person. That does not include the marijuana you harvest in the privacy of your own home. In other words, don't travel will more than an ounce and you'll be fine.

As far as how many plants you can have .... that simply depends on the design of your grow room. You can't go over 25 square feet but there is no plant limit under Prop 19.


BTW ... under Prop 19 an ounce of marijuana is defined as 28.5 grams. So yeah ... you get an extra .15 grams.

ur saying shit right now lol wtf..and they is not u..they meaning "The Government" anyways if it doesn't affect medical patients i dont have a problem with it i guess but think all u stoners who just wanna get stoned should get a job and only smoke if u need to and stop hating on people who got cards and wanna grow as much dank as they want..and either way that oz law is BS, so u can have more then a oz but only be caught with a oz?? so how would u even pick up over a oz if u can have over an oz at your house and u weren't growing?? lol whatever

 

[veggiegardener]

You seem to be ignoring my assessment of your cultivation experience.

I'll assume you are inexperienced.

Also, nearly every one of your posts are about Prop 19.

Just shilling for the boys in Oakland?

 

[tc1]

Prop 19 gives EVERYONE freedom and takes NOTHING away from 215 patients.

 

[veggiegardener]

Prop 19 gives EVERYONE freedom and takes NOTHING away from 215 patients.

Prove it!

You haven't read the codes so you aren't capable of making your case.

Are you even registered to vote?

 

[tc1]

Correct!

Have you READ it? Do you see any mention of area allowed?

DO YOU UNDERSTAND?

Medical patients are limited two 6 plants ... not a specific area.

So in other words ... Prop 19 will allow medical patients the possibility to grow MORE marijuana plants.

 

[tc1]

I love how the anti-Prop 19 folks resort to name calling and personal attacks.


You know why? Because that's all they have when they realize they can't argue against facts.

 

[veggiegardener]

Medical patients are limited two 6 plants ... not a specific area.

So in other words ... Prop 19 will allow medical patients the possibility to grow MORE marijuana plants.

DUDE!

PLANT LIMITS WERE OVERTHROWN ABOUT A YEAR AGO.

You Really don't know shit...

 

[veggiegardener]

I love how the anti-Prop 19 folks resort to name calling and personal attacks.


You know why? Because that's all they have when they realize they can't argue against facts.

I'm sick of idiots who express uninformed opinions that will, in the long run, hurt them!

Prop 19 will do just what it says. Tax and control Cannabis.

Legalization is NOT mentioned.

 

[Cali.Grown>408]

haha he said plant limits tc1 take ur 49 posts and get up off of Rollitup with that BS false information..us patients determine how much medicine we need..we have no limit