All You Care Givers Out There, Do You Pay Your Taxes?

[Stoner Smurf]

Do you guys pay taxes on the money you make from being a care giver? I am especially curious about care givers who give care for a living and thats all they do. How do you file your taxes? Do you just claim your income as care-giver? Can you do that and just file your taxes as you would if you ran a normal business? I wouldn't feel right if I didn't pay taxes on it at all. Of course I probably need to talk to a good and trustworthy CPA, but I would like to hear some of RIUs tax solutions.

 

[Stoner Smurf]

Oooops accidental post.

 

[skiweeds]

nope. im a legit caregiver and i charge $0. growing dope is and should be a hobby, not a profession. everyone is too greedy and shady with it. too many bad people are part of the community and ruin it for other good people like me and probably even yourself. i make way more money working an honest job. 95% of supposed CAREgivers can go fuck themselves. at least where i live and from who i have met.

 

[CrazyBudz]

fuck no they dont.....most are in it just for the $$ why would they volunterly pay taxes on it!!

 

[Stoner Smurf]

nope. im a legit caregiver and i charge $0. growing dope is and should be a hobby, not a profession. everyone is too greedy and shady with it. too many bad people are part of the community and ruin it for other good people like me and probably even yourself. i make way more money working an honest job. 95% of supposed CAREgivers can go fuck themselves. at least where i live and from who i have met.

I hope this is a joke, and a bad one at that. Last week I logged just over 50 hours of work in my grow room. I usually only log 35 hrs a week or so, but last week was busy. But that's the hours of a full time job. So according to you I should be working this full time job for fun as a hobby? Uhhhh no. Not to mention the $300+ on nutes each month, and my monthly $500 electric bill. But that money should just come out of my pocket cause being elbow deep in bat shit is so much fun it's worth it.

CrazyBudz, they'd pay taxes on it because they'd want to avoid prison. Even if people are not paying their taxes I hope they've at least talked to a good CPA about not paying their taxes the proper way. You know what they say the difference between Tax Evasion and Tax Avoidance is right? About 20 years.

Also just cause people grow bud doesn't mean we are all necessarily bad citizens. As a citizen of this country we have a civic duty to pay our taxes, regardless if the money is spent poorly. I for one won't skip out on my taxes regardless of the source of income. If everyone did that we'd have no roads, hospitals, schools, etc.

 

[puffntuff]

hey bro i pay taxes and claim im a professional gmabler. yeah my taxes are prolly higher but there paid and the irs can blow me if they dont like it.

 

[rzza]

well said smurf. i plan to start in january, ill keep all reciepts and log all hours. come the following tax season i will file.

 

[rzza]

puff do you play poker? cuz we have to do that and really only a poker player would even know to do that IMO.

 

[rzza]

funny everyone in this thread is from michigan and its not even in our subforum

 

[puffntuff]

Yeah I play but mostly black jack and baccarat. Three of my friends are poker pros so they turned me on to paying taxes that way.

 

[skiweeds]

I hope this is a joke, and a bad one at that. Last week I logged just over 50 hours of work in my grow room. I usually only log 35 hrs a week or so, but last week was busy. But that's the hours of a full time job. So according to you I should be working this full time job for fun as a hobby? Uhhhh no. Not to mention the $300+ on nutes each month, and my monthly $500 electric bill. But that money should just come out of my pocket cause being elbow deep in bat shit is so much fun it's worth it.

CrazyBudz, they'd pay taxes on it because they'd want to avoid prison. Even if people are not paying their taxes I hope they've at least talked to a good CPA about not paying their taxes the proper way. You know what they say the difference between Tax Evasion and Tax Avoidance is right? About 20 years.

Also just cause people grow bud doesn't mean we are all necessarily bad citizens. As a citizen of this country we have a civic duty to pay our taxes, regardless if the money is spent poorly. I for one won't skip out on my taxes regardless of the source of income. If everyone did that we'd have no roads, hospitals, schools, etc.

your also probably be watched by the dea if you have an operation that big. make sure you follow the rules or they will fuck you. even if i did have a huge operation, i guarantee i'd still be making more in my job. too much on the line for me to risk if i ran a big operation. it is still federally illegal. and dont trust obama being in office to keep you safe. in fact dont trust the government at all.

 

[rowlman]

I've been reading these caregiver/patient posts the last couple days and have a question about the taxes.
I've been growing for me and 1 other person for a year now and getting ready to bring in 1 more. I don't want to get into the free meds or how much $$ BS( like I said...I've been following these threads..lol )...but if any money that comes in goes back into the grow ( nutes,equip, elec bill, etc. ) and I'm not profiting $$.
The only profit ,in my case right now, would be free meds...so theres no taxes to be claimed then?
I plan to look into all this with my tax guy...just thought I'd ask here .

 

[rowlman]

I just read back my post...I can't even understand it.
What I was trying to ask was...if there is no profit coming in from my patient at this time, do I need to even tell my tax guy that I'm a caregiver??

 

[puffntuff]

i wouldnt. its just like any other bus if your in the red how can you pay??? taxes are for folks that are making a living by it. you are not so fuck it. you would claim a win on a scratchoff would you its the same i feel.

 

[rowlman]

I know...I don't even know why I asked a stupid question like that.
I've had to pay my own taxes in the past on different jobs...even then I didn't unless I recieved 10-99 form the contractor..lol..jk, never anything big anyways.
If things change in the future and I'm actually making an income off this, then I would do everything on the books.
Too much to lose here...but for now,other than the free meds, I'm still in the neg. at the end of the month...lol

 

[jesus of Cannabis]

With the money I get form my patients for being their caregiver it goes back into lights, nutes and other fun stuff to make my grow more efficient and I pay taxes on everything I buy, except if its from the internet. So no I dont file a 1099 just for being a caregiver, the government has enough trouble wasting money without needing mine.

 

[TreeOfLiberty]

I used to hear old timers when I was a kid growing up that there was no actual written law that said one must pay taxes on their income. I thought they were crazy, that is until I got around 30 yrs old and started digging into income tax protest websites and digging deep. The first guy that really caught my attention was a man named Joe Banister that worked for the IRS and was fired when he started pressing his supervisors to show him where it was a written law that a U.S. citizen is LAWFULLY required to pay income tax.

Notice I'm saying WRITTEN law, and there is NO WRITTEN law that clearly states one HAS TO PAY. All these people who get prison time and their assets taken by the courts are being RAILROADED. The income tax DOES NOT go to the running of the U.S. GOVT. , it goes solely to paying the INTEREST on the Federal Reserve. Most people just assume that it is a law because they know someone or know of someone that has been audited or jailed over income taxes and their parents paid and grandparents paid so they just assume that it's the right thing to do by paying income tax. It is a corrupt set up against the people on paying income taxes, we never had an income tax until 1913 and America ran just fine over a hundred years before then.

The authority of the federal government to collect its income tax depends upon the 16th Amendment to the U.S. Constitution, the federal income tax amendment, which was allegedly ratified in 1913.The 16th Amendment was not ratified by the required 3/4 of the states, but nevertheless Secretary of State Philander Knox fraudulently announced ratification.

You won't see the facts in mainstream media about the truth behind the income tax. A good video with credible and valid sources, interviews with former IRS agents and attorneys is America Freedom to Fascism >

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-1656880303867390173#

Now as far as paying income taxes as a grower...why the hell should you ? Even if you refuse to believe the truth and believe it is right to pay taxes or if you fear going to jail for not paying them, why would you want to pay an income tax on providing Cannabis to patients when the Federal Govt constantly locks up caregivers and dispensary owners for selling Cannabis and then refuses to allow the people they railroad to use the term "medical" in any way in Federal court. They never let the jury hear the term MEDICAL marijuana.

I don't pay and I won't pay and if anything paying an income tax on something that the FED's deem illegal anyway is opening more doors for them to bust you.

 

[stonedmetalhead1]

Yes but people still go to jail so you might as well pay your taxes.

 

[bigv1976]

MMJ is supposed to be non-profit and you only pay taxes on profit so I am guessing not too many mj taxes get paid.

 

[Stoner Smurf]

Who says MMJ is suppose to be non-profit. I know in some states it is (i.e. New Mexico), but I know in my state (and I am sure we're not the only one) it says nothing about non-profit/for profit. Not paying taxes is a good way to end up in prison. My logic is as follows, Obama sent a memo to the DEA telling them to not waste resources on people complying with state law. Although that doesn't eliminate the possibility of the DEA kicking in the door on my legal grow, I am sure it reduces it, and at the very least it's a nice placebo. But I know for a fact that Obama sent no such memo to the IRS. If you're a full time care giver making a full-time income and not claiming it, I can almost guarantee you will get a knock on your door from the IRS. I've been audited before, it sucked major donkey dick. All my shit was in check and it still sucked.