Club 600

[Humboldt14]

Hey guys. While we are discussing grow room setup, I'd like to get some input from those of you who have already set yours up. This will be my first indoor and the total space I will be working with is 10' width by 12' length by 7' height. I would like to set up a clone/seedling room, a veg and a flower area. Because of the height, I planned on going scrog with homemade rolling tables so I could easily move from the veg area to the flower area.

My question is this, with the dimensions I gave what size areas would you folks recommend for each of the three rooms? Any input would be much appreciated.

well your veg room does not have to be that big because while they vegging they can be bunch together, your flower room is the room you are going to want as much space as possible.

 

[mcpurple]

i vegged 18 in a 2 ft wide 2 ft long and 3 ft tall box with a 200 watt cfl and it worked great

 

[Dezracer]

So if I run two 600HPS lights, do you guys think I should make my flowering space 4'X8' then if I go with a trditional setup and E&F?

 

[Dezracer]

I was thinking 3X3 per light but was shooting for a little extra since there'd be two bulbs running so you'd have light from both directions in the center of the tables. Figured that would put at about 3'X7'.

 

[mcpurple]

i beleive a 600 hps covers a 4x4 area

 

[Dezracer]

I've heard both 3X3 and 4X4 and I think it would be awesome to go with a 4X7 or 4X8 but I want to make sure I don't end up with air bud, you know?

I haven't seen pics of your setup, do you run yours over that large of an area? I've only seen some pics of your plants and stuff but not your setup and your thread is soo long now that it'd take me forever to look through it, lol.

 

[JimmyT]

i beleive a 600 hps covers a 4x4 area

I have to disagree. It can but it's not ideal. 1000W is really what you want for a 4'x4' (I know it's blasphemy to mention 1000 watters here). I believe the ideal area for a 600W is 3'x3'

 

[mcpurple]

i ran one 600 in a 2 1/2 ft wide, 4 1/2 ft long and 6/12 ft tall closet. i never had airy buds. but from what i read if you use 1 600 in a bigger space then 4x4 then your wasting light you said your going to run 2 600 right? i think that should be enough for a 4x8 space

 

[mcpurple]

I have to disagree. It can but it's not ideal. 1000W is really what you want for a 4'x4' (I know it's blasphemy to mention 1000 watters here). I believe the ideal area for a 600W is 3'x3'

well from what i read and this is only what i read not personal. but a few articles say a 600 is good for a 6x6 and a 1000 for a 8x8 but i think that is to much most of what i have read and asked andvanced growers say that a 1 600 should not be used in a space no bigger then 4x4 if you can grow an adequate amount of plants in a 3x3 room with a 600 then that is great but i think it shouldnt go over 4x4 for 1 light

 

[JimmyT]

i think it shouldnt go over 4x4 for 1 light

Agreed

 

[Dezracer]

Thank you, I knew this was the right place to ask.

I love this thread, everyone using similar lights but some in very different ways so there's a lot of info here.

 

[Dezracer]

So it seems I'm probably in pretty good shape if I go with a 3'X7' footprint on the table. I don't mean to be a pain, just don't want to be building another room in 6 months. I'd like to build one I can use for the long term and be happy with.

Yes, there will be two 600s in there.

I was doing some layout on the floor just now and it's not going to be so simple to build the new room since I'll have to take down a shelf I built on the wall at 6'8" high (and put all the shit on it somewhere else) and relocate a light on the ceiling. Only ways I see to avoid those things would be to shrink the room down in deoth and height. It'd be something like 4'5"deepX8'4"wideX6'8"tall (inside dimensions). That would make interior layout critical in order to get around inside

 

[curious old fart]

Would it be possible to relocate your shelf to the new exterior wall
of your grow room? or use the new roof for storage.
As for the light, that can be your electrical source.


cof

 

[ZEN MASTER]

i beleive a 600 hps covers a 4x4 area

actually the optimal area is about 4x4, then the primary is 5x5. now in a space that is more than 4x4, say like a 3x6, you would need two 600's to get proper coverage. but in a 4x4 space or tent with your light at the right height a single 600 could cver a 4x4 area. now i will agree that a 1000 would get you excellent penetration but if you have height issues it might pose a problem cause you would have to jack your light a little higher than you would with a 600. i personally have two 600's in an 8x8 tent, but im only using half{4x8} of the tent, and each one is dead set in the middle of each 4x4 area, and i havent noticed the plants on the edges suffering at all, and those 1000's get hot as hell. just speaking from my own experience though.but i think you'll be good with your decision.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-

 

[ZEN MASTER]

So it seems I'm probably in pretty good shape if I go with a 3'X7' footprint on the table. I don't mean to be a pain, just don't want to be building another room in 6 months. I'd like to build one I can use for the long term and be happy with.

Yes, there will be two 600s in there.


I was doing some layout on the floor just now and it's not going to be so simple to build the new room since I'll have to take down a shelf I built on the wall at 6'8" high (and put all the shit on it somewhere else) and relocate a light on the ceiling. Only ways I see to avoid those things would be to shrink the room down in deoth and height. It'd be something like 4'5"deepX8'4"wideX6'8"tall (inside dimensions). That would make interior layout critical in order to get around inside

just curious, but why not go ahead and make it 4x8, or 4.5x8.5 to give yourself some wiggle room, and because most trays are not exactly 2x2, or 4x4, or 4x8, if you planned on using them.



PEACE!!!
-ZEN-

 

[1badmasonman]

Thank you, I knew this was the right place to ask.

I love this thread, everyone using similar lights but some in very different ways so there's a lot of info here.

Damn right. This thread is packed with good info.

So it seems I'm probably in pretty good shape if I go with a 3'X7' footprint on the table. I don't mean to be a pain, just don't want to be building another room in 6 months. I'd like to build one I can use for the long term and be happy with.

Yes, there will be two 600s in there.

I was doing some layout on the floor just now and it's not going to be so simple to build the new room since I'll have to take down a shelf I built on the wall at 6'8" high (and put all the shit on it somewhere else) and relocate a light on the ceiling. Only ways I see to avoid those things would be to shrink the room down in deoth and height. It'd be something like 4'5"deepX8'4"wideX6'8"tall (inside dimensions). That would make interior layout critical in order to get around inside

Having room to work is a nice amenity. And in some setups necissary. Those dimensions dont sound like a bad configuaration. Atleast youll be able to stand up all the way unlike my room. I have to duck to do everything.

Would it be possible to relocate your shelf to the new exterior wall
of your grow room? or use the new roof for storage.
As for the light, that can be your electrical source.


cof

Now thats sound advice there. And the shelf could double as a secret door. Been thinking about doing something like that on my own room.

actually the optimal area is about 4x4, then the primary is 5x5. now in a space that is more than 4x4, say like a 3x6, you would need two 600's to get proper coverage. but in a 4x4 space or tent with your light at the right height a single 600 could cver a 4x4 area. now i will agree that a 1000 would get you excellent penetration but if you have height issues it might pose a problem cause you would have to jack your light a little higher than you would with a 600. i personally have two 600's in an 8x8 tent, but im only using half{4x8} of the tent, and each one is dead set in the middle of each 4x4 area, and i havent noticed the plants on the edges suffering at all, and those 1000's get hot as hell. just speaking from my own experience though.but i think you'll be good with your decision.


PEACE!!!
-ZEN-

Agreed. I have a 1000 watter and it gets hot as 2 rats fucking in a whool sock. I mean HOT. i couldnt keep it cool in a cooltube with it running solo. It was just to much for my inline fan. 600s all the way. And if im not mistaken for what it cost to run a 1000 watt you can run 2 600 and get a shit load more lumens per watt.

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[Dezracer]

If I decide to set the ceiling height to match the shelf that's there, I can make as big as 5'X just under 9' clear on the inside with the ceiling height being 6'8". I'll probably go this route so I can just sheet the top with plywood and then I'll have an even bigger shelf to store shit, lol.

If I go any bigger there won't be room for the wifey to get out of her car when she comes home everyday.

 

[marijuananation]

Sounds to me like the wife is gonna have to start parking on the street.. lol

I'm kidding..

 

[Dezracer]

Sounds to me like the wife is gonna have to start parking on the street.. lol

I'm kidding..

Haha, I've been trying to figure out how to pull that off. We have to have a permit to park outside of the garages and they only issue permits if you either have more than three registered vehicles (motorcycles don't count or I'd be in) or if your vehicle is too big to fit in the garage 'safely'.
I got one when we moved in for the truck I had because it was longer than te garage but that truck's gone now and that permit expired. I use it for a while in my new ride but eventually it expired and they won't give me a new one....dicks, lol

thinking I'll see if my trailer counts and if it does, I'll squeeze my ride in the garage with the trailer and the motorcycles and try to get a permit for the wife's car. Then I could go as big as 8X10 since my trailer stays at the in-laws' place.

 

[1badmasonman]

In no particular order.

A few Blue Widow branches

The Purps

A few Blue Widow shots.

Smells like Tha Bomb And survery says IT IS

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