Man, hope you figure out the solution. How long does it take to correct problems like this? Actually, I guess what I'm really asking is: will the leaves return to normal after the solution is found, or does it just save anymore from developing these issues?
SCROG OFF!! New school vs old school. Sealed rooms- 12 plants.
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legallyflying
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Cut them all down. Concede loss. Bow before my scrog
frogster
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Its just one strain of plants (9plants, sour diesel), They have given me crap the entire grow, Its not the scrogged plants. They will be ok, I cut the watering schedule back (from 4 to 3) and lowered the ppm and ph a bit. I damn sure dont want to do a rez change this soon, so I will stick it out a few days and watch it close. The scrogged plants are kicking ass along with the big bud..
xivex
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LMAO. LF you seem rather skilled in smack talk. I take it you come from years of experience on the matter..
frogster
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X, Its a sure sign that hes worried, notice he hasnt posted a pic of his future mexibrick....besides if i lose those plants I will put that light over the scrog... As far as the claw goes, im guessing I was over watering ... this happened early in vegg with these biotches... for sure I thought the blueberry was going to give me trouble more than the sour diesel... the blueberry are taller also ( before scrogging) go figure,,, either that or I have the strains backwards..... im fairly sure though after looking at pictures of both online...
legallyflying
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I say KNEEL before the awesomeness of my SCROG!
nugbuckets
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Frogster, you did it wrong bro, you are supposed to pour the listerene in the milk jug, then have your boy take a dump in it, shake, strain through tea bag, have it blessed by an atheist, then give to the plants with the twirled leaves, fixes it every time....takes care of your Cal problem too......silly you.
Good show fellas...subbed' plus rep.
P.S. one more week of downward facing dog, and my tongue is gonna touch! I swear!
Good show fellas...subbed' plus rep.
P.S. one more week of downward facing dog, and my tongue is gonna touch! I swear!
legallyflying
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Pictures of veg are gay
frogster
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Ahh, you consider any pics without buds not worthy,,, Dont get how you consider them gay (no female anatomy showing?)... My ppm is climbing during watering last night It went from 820 to 840,,,, Went through about 4 gallons of h20... I lowered the ppm this a.m before the final feeding and lights out.... Right now I feed right before lights on, 6 hrs later and 45 min before lights out.... 15min cycle except the last one is 30min... I was at 5cycles (every 3hrs) before...now the new growth is coming in without the claw so im feeling better... I was pretty damn frustrated the other night.... I mixed a single gallon at the feed chart recommend 5ml per gall Part a&b. 1ml sae mag and ginourmous .. And the gallon came out to 660ppm! (50ppm from tap) When I added the same ratio to my rez ( 50 gal) the other day it only raised my rez 360ppm.... ????????? No idea ... Looking forward to the next rez change to see what the hell it comes out at... UPDATE, just picked up the Flavorful, Humic&fulvic acid,,, adding it later to the rez, suppose to help with avoiding nutrient burn also....
legallyflying
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Maybe you need to shake the jugs before measuring? Seems odd. I definately water more often. Your ppm should climb everynight, but then when you top off (which is the only time you should check your ppm; you find that it actually went down. My 12 girls are drinking about 10 gallons a night. But I'm running at 90 degrees and 45% so more evapotranspiration is expected.
frogster
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90 degrees , holy carp... I couldn't get my room past 82 with the vent fan running.... Ahh, so your saying dont worry about my ppm going up a little every night,,, I thought I was suppose to get it where it keeps even with the evaporation,,,and if it went down, I was suppose to add more nutes.... I mixed the bottles good, I thought... Next rez change will tell me a lot... Im digging all the hairs coming out... Buds on the way,,, woohoo, exciting! I hope my blueberry is really purple in color, I suppose I can let the temps drop just before harvest to get them that way...
legallyflying
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Frog, I thought you knew this little factoid already and maybe you do but for those that are we or whatever, here is how you determine EXACTLY how much nutrients are being given to your plant and how you should be mixing in your nutrients. I'm not going to go into the why you should cause I just got out of a really hot bath and I want to conserve strength so I can rub one out before I take the kids to the movies.
Fill your Rez at LEAST 3/4 full before adding anything!
Add your Macro nutes and let mix around (u DO have a pump running 24:7 in your Rez right...)
Add micro and anything else you think is goIng to fix the fact that you really don't know what the fuck your doing
Top off with tap to the desired level
Mark THAT WATER HEIGht with marker
Let mix for 20. CALIBRATE your ph pen, test ph.
Add your up or down..that has been DILUTED at least 10:1 from the bottle strength. If you see a little cloud form when you pour your shit in there it's waaaay to strong. Don't do it.
Let mix and test again. Yadah yadah.
Ok let's say your ppm is 1030 and your ph is 5.6 ( like mine was 4 days ago)
You come back the next day, the water is lower and now the ppm is 1080 and ph 5.8. Still ok to me.
Next day, even less water gone, ppm at 1150 ph 5.9.. Ok, now it's time to take a break from watching German fisting porn and give your plants some love.
Add clean tap only to the fill line you marked. NOW test the PPM. Wow it's 960. Now you know that your plants absorbed 120 ppm of nutes in 4 days. 960 is pretty close to the original 1030 so I'll probably leave it for another day.
Now I'll come back the next day, there is like 10 gallons of solution gone so to get me back up to the original 1030 or close, I'll mix like 5 gallons of fresh nutes in the exact proportions I did originally and add it in the Rez. Test the ppm, if it's higher than you want but not by much your golden because youll top off again with tap to the fill mark.
The main point is this folks: the only ppm comparisons should be done when the rez is at the same height! Plants transpire water and leave the minerals, its normal for ppm to climb because of this.
In veg I'm pretty lazy and I use root excelerator which is expensive so I do this for several weeks without changing the Rez. In flower, I maybe go two weeks tops. Because I'm such a fuckin dope Mack daddy I typically top of with fresh water everyday because I plumbed my grow set up so my filtered water comes out to a hose bib about a foot from my reservoirs. I fill test and RECORD ppm daily simply because I don't have to lift anything and risk injuring my jerk off hand. This allows me to track exactly how much nutrients are being absorbed every day.
Make sure you change your flowering Rez every week or at MAX. Every two weeks. You can never know WHICH mutes are being absorbed and if you keep adding back nutrients, the PROPORTIONS between the minerals can get fucked up am lead to lock out problems. This is why I hardly ever just add macro or just micro to my Rez. I always add balanced nutes.
Make sense? Anyone that learned anything now owes me rep cause my wife is calling for me now and I never had time to "spend a little time with myself" cause I was typing in my I phone
Fill your Rez at LEAST 3/4 full before adding anything!
Add your Macro nutes and let mix around (u DO have a pump running 24:7 in your Rez right...)
Add micro and anything else you think is goIng to fix the fact that you really don't know what the fuck your doing
Top off with tap to the desired level
Mark THAT WATER HEIGht with marker
Let mix for 20. CALIBRATE your ph pen, test ph.
Add your up or down..that has been DILUTED at least 10:1 from the bottle strength. If you see a little cloud form when you pour your shit in there it's waaaay to strong. Don't do it.
Let mix and test again. Yadah yadah.
Ok let's say your ppm is 1030 and your ph is 5.6 ( like mine was 4 days ago)
You come back the next day, the water is lower and now the ppm is 1080 and ph 5.8. Still ok to me.
Next day, even less water gone, ppm at 1150 ph 5.9.. Ok, now it's time to take a break from watching German fisting porn and give your plants some love.
Add clean tap only to the fill line you marked. NOW test the PPM. Wow it's 960. Now you know that your plants absorbed 120 ppm of nutes in 4 days. 960 is pretty close to the original 1030 so I'll probably leave it for another day.
Now I'll come back the next day, there is like 10 gallons of solution gone so to get me back up to the original 1030 or close, I'll mix like 5 gallons of fresh nutes in the exact proportions I did originally and add it in the Rez. Test the ppm, if it's higher than you want but not by much your golden because youll top off again with tap to the fill mark.
The main point is this folks: the only ppm comparisons should be done when the rez is at the same height! Plants transpire water and leave the minerals, its normal for ppm to climb because of this.
In veg I'm pretty lazy and I use root excelerator which is expensive so I do this for several weeks without changing the Rez. In flower, I maybe go two weeks tops. Because I'm such a fuckin dope Mack daddy I typically top of with fresh water everyday because I plumbed my grow set up so my filtered water comes out to a hose bib about a foot from my reservoirs. I fill test and RECORD ppm daily simply because I don't have to lift anything and risk injuring my jerk off hand. This allows me to track exactly how much nutrients are being absorbed every day.
Make sure you change your flowering Rez every week or at MAX. Every two weeks. You can never know WHICH mutes are being absorbed and if you keep adding back nutrients, the PROPORTIONS between the minerals can get fucked up am lead to lock out problems. This is why I hardly ever just add macro or just micro to my Rez. I always add balanced nutes.
Make sense? Anyone that learned anything now owes me rep cause my wife is calling for me now and I never had time to "spend a little time with myself" cause I was typing in my I phone
frogster
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Yep, I learned a few things,,,, Hell, I will give you more rep...even though you have gotten most of it ! I was just adding back water to whatever level I felt (how many jugs I wanted to carry), and just mixing in the nutes till I got to the desired level ... I was also adding my ph down directly to the rez until I hit the number I wanted.... oops... Thx,,, I will switch up my routine..takes more effort. Less time for whacking... But perhaps more often if the plants kick ass! dammit, I need to spread some rep around to give you more... who wants rep,,, rep here! ....
ENDLSCYCLE
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You guys are too fkn funny....best shit talk thread ever....and it's all in fun....And correct me if I'm wrong, but are you trying to win a weight competition with DJ Short True Blueberry....good luck on that. Legal has this in the bag....sorry young frog.
Edit......Yaaaaahhhhh!!!!! some +rep.......thanks froggy
Edit......Yaaaaahhhhh!!!!! some +rep.......thanks froggy
I, too, can use this info, Legal. Just the other day I splashed some pH UP in my bucket and noticed the cloud. I thought it was pretty...guess it wasn't.
German fisting porn is played 24/7 in my grow area, so that one doesn't apply to me.
RIU says I've given ya too much rep lately and have to 'spread it around'. As soon as I'm able I'll hit you up, but not because of the great info...rather because you typed that long ass post in an iPhone with so few typos. Amazing, Grace. Wonder when iPhone will have a masturbation app like the Droid has already. In a world of doesn't...
German fisting porn is played 24/7 in my grow area, so that one doesn't apply to me.
RIU says I've given ya too much rep lately and have to 'spread it around'. As soon as I'm able I'll hit you up, but not because of the great info...rather because you typed that long ass post in an iPhone with so few typos. Amazing, Grace. Wonder when iPhone will have a masturbation app like the Droid has already. In a world of doesn't...
legallyflying
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Awesome idea. Porn, weed, fuck man, I just might put my keg in the grow room
frogster
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Endles C. He doesn't want me to include my Big bud,,, lol.. But we all know im going to throw it in at the end. Im wanting to beat him on grams per watt, better overall potency&flavor, and sheer plant beauty (bag appeal) In other words , I want my finished ladies to dominate!... Im sure we will need an independent card holding smoking enthusiast to give judgment. Probably the winner of a "Guess The Yield " thread... Mexi-brick (Legal) doesn't smoke and I have maybe 5 times in the last 20 years,, hardly fit for a judge but I plan on sampling all the strains that I have over a nice camping trip with a big bonfire and lots of goodies to much on... I better take a friend along, Im sure this isnt going to be the same stuff I use to smoke... i would be Like The guy in Jimbros picture...
ENDLSCYCLE
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Wait wait wait wait,just one f'n minute......did you just say Legally doesn't even smoke and you have like 5 times.....what the fk???