1000w Coco Multi-strain Medicinal Grow

Snow Crash

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You don't have to use all of it. Really though, it's a pretty small system.

The Nitrex and the Seaplex you don't even really need. I mean, it's nitrogen and some extracts... enh.
The Calplex is just Calcium Carbonate. The Huvega is a Magnesium and Micro supplement, good stuff actually, and the Humega is just Humic acid... so you could pass on that too.

Depending on your water quality you might not need much else.

I suggested using the Organicare Pure Grow and Bloom in conjunction with CNS 17. Not using the entire Organicare line.
The Botanicare Pure Blend and the Organicare Pure are really similar when you break down the contents. One of them you amend in the coco, the other is a liquid fertilizer, so it's just a different strokes thing, I think.

Either way, adding all the other Organicare extras isn't part of my schemes. I wish I could make up my mind on all this.
 

t0rn

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Noob question for you Snow, when they say the strain is 8 weeks, do you pull the plant at the begging of week 8 or sometime during that week? I'm trying to figure out when to flush the ladies. Also, rather than flushing I'm just going to be feeding pH'd water to slight runoff, so "leaching." The 11th of next month will be the 56th day flowering, should I start leaching on the 1st and give it a good 10 days?

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Snow Crash

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The harvest window is a little hard to gauge on a plant you haven't grown. Your instinct is going to be to harvest earlier than later. Leaching is going to allow you to run the plant for as long as necessary so I'm glad you chose that method.

Personally, I'd be watching the trichomes for sure and trying to push the flush until day 50. As long as a reasonable number of clear trichomes remain the plant is going to need that extra time for ripening. Figure, if you start to rinse on day 50, and it needs to be harvest on day 57 at least you got a weeks worth of rinsing done. I'd plan on it going for 10 days and harvesting on day 60 for an advertised 8 week strain.

My idea is to start rinsing on Feb. 5th (dialing back your nutrients up to that point) and harvesting probably sometime on or after the 15th.

Most strains I come in contact with need at least a full 60 days. 65 to 70 is a very typical window from the beginning of 12/12 on Sativa/Indica hybrids. So just be prepared to let them go as long as 10 weeks if that is what they need.
 

t0rn

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Still can't rep you >.<

Thanks for all the help man, kinda have an idea how I want to finish these ladies up now.

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Kiki007

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Still can't rep you >.<

Thanks for all the help man, kinda have an idea how I want to finish these ladies up now.

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that's okay T0rn - i just rep'd him for both of us - I'm scheduled to chop down my very first harvest on feb 10th - and his post just helped me huge! so +rep SNOW - thank you.
 

t0rn

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Bagseed A has been in the flower room for 6 days now and I just caught a glimpse of the first hairs, it's a lady!

I hope to show that schwag isn't bad weed, it was just grown and harvested incorrectly.

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Snow Crash

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Glad I could help out Ladies and Gents.

I have had a history of earlier harvests and it winds up not bad... but not as flavorful as I'd like. You really need to let it get to that ripe point before plucking. My indica strains will finish in 8 weeks solid, no issue, but a lot of my hybrids I plan on 70 days and wind up pulling them on day 65 because I get impatient and usually need the space.

Think of weed more like Avocados or Cantaloupes. Just looking at it, it is hard to be certain that it is ready to go. You kinda have to give it that extra day just so it's a little sweeter, a little riper. Let it go too long and you get a mushy mess.
 

t0rn

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I have had a history of earlier harvests and it winds up not bad... but not as flavorful as I'd like. You really need to let it get to that ripe point before plucking. My indica strains will finish in 8 weeks solid, no issue, but a lot of my hybrids I plan on 70 days and wind up pulling them on day 65 because I get impatient and usually need the space.
That's my problem right now, I have vegging plants that are kicking ass and biting at the bit to get flowered. My initial 5 plants are taking up half of the room and I have been adding 1-2 plants weekly now and have run into a traffic jam in there. Either I need to stop cloning and popping seeds so much or buy another tent.

Fed the plants heavy today as Thursday has sort of become the weekly marker now in the full > half > pH'd water feeding cycle. This basically starts week 6 and I'm going to feed one last time on the 31st at about 50% of what I've been feeding and leach from there.

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t0rn

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Played pimp my grow room today and installed something that I've been meaning to for a while. No, it didn't cost money and isn't the fan and carbon filter that I really want, BUT, I now have from 1-4 ft of variable ground height. I took some cinder blocks and put them under the pieces of wood that I made for the floor (to keep the roots off the cold concrete). That gives me about 14in off the floor now. The height in the grow room is a little excessive at 7' 4", and with the addition of the blocks under the wood and the plants on milk crates (can be turned on each side for 3 different heights), the whole canopy is between 13 and 23 inches from the 1k watter. This gives me anywhere between 14-40k lumens where it all counts. I still have the oscillating fan blowing between the canopy and the light and the temperature at the canopy level is ~78-80 degrees.

Have 2 green crack finally rooting out on me, took a week longer than the Hog (10 days) at about 16 days to root. I was starting to get sort of worried about that strain as I heard it is hard to clone. Even with roots, I took them out of the dome to harden off to the humidity a bit and they wilted within 15 minutes. Back in the dome and they're standing back up, it might take a few days to get these finicky fucks to stand tall in the real world and not their safe little humidity done.

So far, the only strain I was unsuccessful at cloning was the Romulan, which I now plan to re-veg after harvesting just to keep the genetics around. It's a keeper, as the nugs are nice and dense and frosty. It's smell is starting to be my favorite as well, hate to see it go.

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t0rn

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Some good plant nutrition info fo dat ass (got it off wiki):

Plant nutrition

Main article: Plant nutrition
Plant nutrition is the study of the chemical elements that are necessary for plant growth. There are several principles that apply to plant nutrition. Some elements are directly involved in plant metabolism. However, this principle does not account for the so-called beneficial elements, whose presence, while not required, has clear positive effects on plant growth.
A nutrient that is able to limit plant growth according to Liebig's law of the minimum, is considered an essential plant nutrient if the plant cannot complete its full life cycle without it. There are 17 essential plant nutrients.

Macronutrients:


Micronutrients (trace levels) include:


Macronutrients


Calcium
Calcium regulates transport of other nutrients into the plant and is also involved in the activation of certain plant enzymes. Calcium deficiency results in stunting.

Nitrogen
Nitrogen is an essential component of all proteins. Nitrogen deficiency most often results in stunted growth.

Phosphorus

Phosphorus is important in plant bioenergetics. As a component of ATP, phosphorus is needed for the conversion of light energy to chemical energy (ATP) during photosynthesis. Phosphorus can also be used to modify the activity of various enzymes by phosphorylation, and can be used for cell signaling. Since ATP can be used for the biosynthesis of many plant biomolecules, phosphorus is important for plant growth and flower/seed formation.

Potassium

Potassium regulates the opening and closing of the stoma by a potassium ion pump. Since stomata are important in water regulation, potassium reduces water loss from the leaves and increases drought tolerance. Potassium deficiency may cause necrosis or interveinal chlorosis.

Silicon

Silicon is deposited in cell walls and contributes to its mechanical properties including rigidity and elasticity


Micronutrients


Boron
Boron is important in sugar transport, cell division, and synthesizing certain enzymes. Boron deficiency causes necrosis in young leaves and stunting.

Copper

Copper is important for photosynthesis. Symptoms for copper deficiency include chlorosis. Involved in many enzyme processes. Necessary for proper photosythesis. Involved in the manufacture of lignin (cell walls). Involved in grain production.

Chlorine

Chlorine is necessary for osmosis and ionic balance; it also plays a role in photosynthesis.

Iron

Iron is necessary for photosynthesis and is present as an enzyme cofactor in plants. Iron deficiency can result in interveinal chlorosis and necrosis.

Manganese
Manganese is necessary for building the chloroplasts. Manganese deficiency may result in coloration abnormalities, such as discolored spots on the foliage.

Molybdenum

Molybdenum is a cofactor to enzymes important in building amino acids.

Nickel
In higher plants, Nickel is essential for activation of urease, an enzyme involved with nitrogen metabolism that is required to process urea. Without Nickel, toxic levels of urea accumulate, leading to the formation of necrotic lesions. In lower plants, Nickel activates several enzymes involved in a variety of processes, and can substitute for Zinc and Iron as a cofactor in some enzymes.

Sodium

Sodium is involved in the regeneration of phosphoenolpyruvate in CAM and C4 plants. It can also substitute for potassium in some circumstances.

Zinc

Zinc is required in a large number of enzymes and plays an essential role in DNA transcription. A typical symptom of zinc deficiency is the stunted growth of leaves, commonly known as "little leaf" and is caused by the oxidative degradation of the growth hormone auxin.


Processes


Plants uptake essential elements from the soil through their roots and from the air (mainly consisting of nitrogen and oxygen) through their leaves. Nutrient uptake in the soil is achieved by cation exchange, wherein root hairs pump hydrogen ions (H+) into the soil through proton pumps. These hydrogen ions displace cations attached to negatively charged soil particles so that the cations are available for uptake by the root. In the leaves, stomata open to take in carbon dioxide and expel oxygen. The carbon dioxide molecules are used as the carbon source in photosynthesis.
Although nitrogen is plentiful in the Earth's atmosphere, relatively few plants engage in nitrogen fixation (conversion of atmospheric nitrogen to a biologically useful form). Most plants therefore require nitrogen compounds to be present in the soil in which they grow.
Plant nutrition is a difficult subject to understand completely, partially because of the variation between different plants and even between different species or individuals of a given clone. Elements present at low levels may cause deficiency symptoms, and toxicity is possible at levels that are too high. Furthermore, deficiency of one element may present as symptoms of toxicity from another element, and vice-versa.
Carbon and oxygen are absorbed from the air, while other nutrients are absorbed from the soil. Green plants obtain their carbohydrate supply from the carbon dioxide in the air by the process of photosynthesis.
 

t0rn

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Picture update woot!

Panorama and under shot:
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Day 42

Panchota:
Pan1.jpgPan2.jpg

Poison:
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The Hog:
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Romulan:
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Kryptonite:
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Day 28

Hog A & B (look identical):
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Day 21

Green Crack:
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Hog C:
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Day 7

Bagseed A:
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Day 1

Poison A:
PoiA.jpg

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Snow Crash

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Gorgeous. Seriously. Gorgeous.

You're outdoing most people on this site man. Great work.
You did the right amount of homework I think.

I still can't +rep you. Which is lame because the last time I repped you was like a fucking month ago. You deserve every bit of it though.
 

t0rn

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OhhRahh buddy OhhRahh
Thanks motivator! I eat PFT's for breakfast! (Marines will get it)

You did the right amount of homework I think.
I seriously read for a month straight through different forums before I even started planning to grow (fueled by prop 19, never passed so I got my card). I learned from other peoples mistakes and how they fixed them. There's a wealth of information here and on other forums, you just have to look at them academically and figure out why they are doing what they're doing and how it works.

I credit any success that I've had to forums like this and watching sublbc on youtube.

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t0rn

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Looks like Kryptonite is finishing up and fast. The hairs are all turning, the trichs seem to be cloudy/milky, and the purpling on the leaves has started to creep into the buds in places. Found a couple pics in a .pdf catalog that have Kryponite (listed as 7-8 weeks) and Green Cush. The Green Cush is from CecilC and seems to be the Green Crack that most people speak of.

kypoak.pnggcoak.png

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t0rn

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When i was a kid i wanted to be superman, not today..lol Say did any part of it get the purple touch?
Yea man, here's a good picture of a couple days ago, the purple has now got back into some of the bud, just a shade of purple.



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t0rn

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Oh god yea, it's leeching now and I'm going to be pulling in about 10 days, in a few days I'll be pulling a sample off to smoke while I manicure when I do harvest. Just a little drying and no curing.. should be decent enough if the weed is good imo.

Just found out that Killer Queen is Romulan x C99. So Kryptonite is (Killer Queen [Romulan x C99] x The Purps).

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420Marine

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sounds like what I intend to do lol..no curing and having a small sample the day after or the next day after harvest..but a looong way to go till then :(
 
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