ledbudguy
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Lookin good man, I can't wait to see that popcorn connect and explode with frosty goodness!
Hempstar 3 Stage LED Grow
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Lookin good man, I can't wait to see that popcorn connect and explode with frosty goodness!
mad dog bark
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my part of the world things v different. no medical grows, no med cards. little insight few months back a grandmother got raided for having a heated hutch in garage for pet rabbit. its bloody cold here most time. another insight a nigerian diploment got raided in london for having central heating slighty higher then the normal. for these examples i can c leds taking over the market in some places.as well as electric costs. i myself am just a researcher of sorts and advise nobody to break any legislations. but then saying that nothing wrong with gaining knowledge. thats a right we all have.
dunit
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I run a large carbon filter with a small cfm fan. I don't go anywhere near the max fan cfm recommended. The longer the air takes to pass over the carbon the more smell gets eliminated. I'm legal but I run like I'm not. It's the best way to avoid problems.
medicine21
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Using that as a benchmark, my panels draw 180 each so 360 for the pair I would pull pretty much bang on a pound if I hit his numbers. He has set the bar and that's what I am trying for right now....so wish me luck
I think you are being realistic and conservative with those numbers and I do wish you luck to hit them.
I have now got 2 sets of numbers one from 357Mag guys and the other from the parent company, who also BTW recommended 3 Mags to cover a 4x8' table over the ISIS lights. They both claim 1.4 g/W in their grows, however the parent company specified that those numbers are arrived at using 357W, NOT 180W. To be explicit, the actual claimed manufacturer numbers are 1.4g per 357W. So all else being equal (and perfect), which it never is of course, the high end estimate for a single Mag is 500g or about 1lb per light.
ledbudguy
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I think you are being realistic and conservative with those numbers and I do wish you luck to hit them.
I'd agree with that based on the number that I personally pulled using the isis1's. In my first LED grow I got 27 oz's and 6g's so just shy of a gram per watt for the 850w I was running (and I'm a noob). I'm not sure what the actual draw is on the lights I never checked that out. When you take into consideration that my plants were around 12" tall on average the haul is actually pretty amazing. I am sure that in my current grow I will mow down 40+ oz's running 1020w 6 x 170w. If I get the 1.4 oz's per watt I will shit my pants! Who knows though, this is only my 2nd go at it with led and I'm sold.
I think that they may be wrong in telling you to go with 357 fixtures. I would go with the isis-fx1 simply because you get 2 fixtures with the same power diodes in flower nm's for the price of one 357. I can tell you no shit from experience that the more of these fixtures you have the better, same as the 3 600w is better than 2 1000w in HID rule. There is some scientific shit happening to the plants in between my fixtures as they are growing way faster than the plants directly below the lights. Say you ran 10 of the 170's over your table (i'm assuming that you are running around 20" - 24" plants), divide the table in 2' x 8' sections for spacing and run one fixture on center width ways every 1.6 feet, I'm sure you would kill the production of running 3 1000's on that same table at the pound per light rule. Now if the actual draw is half like you read on rui the numbers are un-fucking-real!!! My current grow I have doubled everything, plants will finish at 23" pots are up from 2 gal to 3.5 gal and I'm running co2 through the entire grow and regulating the humidity now at 40%. Based on what I know about growing I could effectively double my output if everything goes as planned. If that happens and I pull down 54 oz's I am buying stock in the company! I'd wait it out before you decide and see what happens based on my current grow unless your in a rush then i'd highly reccommend going with multiple fx-1s or similar. Well, that's my 2 cents on this. Fuck if my boss knew how much time i spend on this website i'd be standing in the unemployment line right now typing this response from my droid
medicine21
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Yep, your interlacing LEDs theory has wheels. ISIS guy had big grow with a bunch of Mags and some ISIS FX1 lights every 4 Mags and mentioned interlacing. Would love to see the results of your test with that. I'm sure you can get a great deal $ if you show them your grow journal and tell them about your plan.
Devilspawn
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Your girls are looking very nice. I installed the blackstar today, moved the UFos to the sides and took out the CFL and put in timer on 18/6 cycle. Temps moved up from about 73 to 87 so she does throw a little heat. I do have the monitor at top of cab above exhaust so it may be a little misleading. Posted pics in my journal. I did a lot of hacking today too- clones, clean up of some dead/dying stuff from my nutes misadventure. Going to veg for another week or so depending on how much height I get under lst. Hope I made the right call with the blackstar- time will tell.
mad dog bark
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easy all. how the ladys going dunnit? yo devilspawn how wood i go about finding ya journel? can you post a thread pls or something tried to find but am crap at computers. i c alot of you use a parrafin burner for your co2 but doesnt that affect your temps quite abit? parrafin or wotever is a unfamiliar word to me is that natural gas?? sorry to be so dumb. guessing it simular to wot we call a camping stove?
dunit
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29 days in flower. Super busy right now and have been neglecting my journal. Can't believe the change in three days. Buds are way bigger and already starting to connect. Smell has really picked up too
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mad dog bark
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shit yeah they have gone crazy in 3 days. good stuff. pics 4 and 7 impressive fella.
dunit
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Still working on getting a good blanket natural light source to take some really good pics so get a good feel for the whole show. All the plants are thick with foliage and crazy lush green healthy (which seems to be very common with LED's) and everywhere you look there are bud sites..... Frick I can't wait
dunit
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I've only ever heard of Parafin in England and I think that's just a British or Aussie term for Kerosene which is a common camping fuel in North America. My burner is propane powered but I can change the regulator and run Natural Gas. They are both very similar products. I actually find that it's handy to have a burner as the LED's run so cool the biggest problem I have is keeping the room warm enough especially when its -20C outside
medicine21
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Looking good, man! Do you get a feel for how much a Mag can cover effectively at this point? Can one do 4x4'?
dunit
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I have two over a 4 x 4 but only because these plants didn't stretch like I was expecting and I expected to cover a 4x6 area with two of them. I would say that one light would definately cover a 4x3 area with 18"-24" (foliage) plant height. One thing to keep in mind is how tall your plants are because if you are looking for penetration with taller plants then I would keep the area smaller. If I was running SOG or SCROG I wouldn't say one of these panels would cover 4x4 and maybe even 4'6" x 4'6" no problem.
mad dog bark
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cool. cheers taking time to explain. will check them out on line. how long does a canister last you?
i see at start journel you was asking bout power plant. last trip to amsterdam think 4-7 year ago i had some super power plant. the stuff is evil man. huge buds and stinks. it was my fav. i tried loads from bubble gum, ak, j herrier, royal scuff, jelly hash durban p, most the hazes and power plant was easy the best. infact after a blunt i was giggling like a girl with heavy legs. when i got it the guy said he was the only chap in dam with it and if i found a equal or better then show him and he wood refund it. now i thought he was just a good sales man so i stacked a blunt. man slowest few hours of my life the man new his stuff. so yeah if you can find any super power plant if i was you i wood defo give it a try in future. dunno if power plant is same as super power plant. i found loads places that do power plant but no super power plant
i see at start journel you was asking bout power plant. last trip to amsterdam think 4-7 year ago i had some super power plant. the stuff is evil man. huge buds and stinks. it was my fav. i tried loads from bubble gum, ak, j herrier, royal scuff, jelly hash durban p, most the hazes and power plant was easy the best. infact after a blunt i was giggling like a girl with heavy legs. when i got it the guy said he was the only chap in dam with it and if i found a equal or better then show him and he wood refund it. now i thought he was just a good sales man so i stacked a blunt. man slowest few hours of my life the man new his stuff. so yeah if you can find any super power plant if i was you i wood defo give it a try in future. dunno if power plant is same as super power plant. i found loads places that do power plant but no super power plant
Devilspawn
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siggy should link you to my journal
dunit
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cool. cheers taking time to explain. will check them out on line. how long does a canister last you?
i see at start journel you was asking bout power plant. last trip to amsterdam think 4-7 year ago i had some super power plant. the stuff is evil man. huge buds and stinks. it was my fav. i tried loads from bubble gum, ak, j herrier, royal scuff, jelly hash durban p, most the hazes and power plant was easy the best. infact after a blunt i was giggling like a girl with heavy legs. when i got it the guy said he was the only chap in dam with it and if i found a equal or better then show him and he wood refund it. now i thought he was just a good sales man so i stacked a blunt. man slowest few hours of my life the man new his stuff. so yeah if you can find any super power plant if i was you i wood defo give it a try in future. dunno if power plant is same as super power plant. i found loads places that do power plant but no super power plant
Can lasts me years. I have a 5 foot can and only run 150 cfm on it and it's rated for 800 I think.
My shows aren't that big either and I only turn it on about a month into flower.
dunit
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roachclip420
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Very very impressed with the results from the 357. Very tempted to pick one up myself
mad dog bark
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they plumping up well. how long left you think before the much awaited harvest?? lights seem great just a shame the company aint great at replying to e mails. bin weeks now. does make you think.
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