How Do I Drop a Patient?

[skiweeds]

hate to do this but have to drop a patient. ive been helping him get setup at his house, and spent a couple grand on equipment which all came out of my pocket. we both have cards and im his caregiver. after each harvest i get a cut for my labor, and another cut to sell to other patients/caregivers to get my money back for the equipment. after i get my money back, the equipment is his. also i pay the difference in the electric bill which isnt that cheap. everything was going fine until he got these seeds and started them which put us over the limit. i told him were going to have to do something cause i dont want to be over the limit. the seeds popped up and he put them under the light. one day i said hey, im spending a lot of money here, we're over the limit, plus they're sativa dominant and take about 10+ weeks to flower and i dont have time for that when i need to get my money back first. we can give them to someone and if we want that strain later i'll have them cut clones so dont worry about losing it. otherwise i dont want to do this anymore and im gonna have to move my equipment somewhere else and your gonna have to find a new caregiver. he got real upset over it and took it way too personal. he wouldnt even talk to me for about an hour. he doesnt understand that im not taking any risks. being able to do it legally is a big enough privilege, and i cant have his reckless dumbass ruin it. i dont care about the plants, he can have them. just not sure how im gonna go about getting my stuff back. he doesnt know i plan on dropping him and he will be very upset but im spending all the money and im in charge, otherwise its not worth it to me. i've already tried talking to him about it and he dont seem to want to get rid of any. i think next electric bill im just gonna say i cant afford it, my guy i got the equipment said he'd take it back. any other ideas? im not interested in trying to work things out. i already tried that. i have a clean record and hes been to jail and prison when he was younger. im not about to head in that direction. i've known the guy a couple years, but it wasnt until i got to know him better until i realized how unstable he actually was. im also not interested in involving police. but if it comes to them finding out, i cant say im the one responsible for having extra plants.

 

[Buddy Ganga]

Sounds like this guy has you a little intimidated.

Hole card: He's not allowed to posses/cultivate plants once he assigned you as his caregiver.
So if anything happens he's the one that would get into trouble not you (from what I understand the seedlings are at his place not yours)
If they are in fact at your place, just throw them out or transfer them to another C/G on your own..

I'm really not sure how to say this without sounding rude so please understand I'm not try to insult you, but it sounds like you need to grow a pair, and stand up to this guy..

P.s. love your signature!!!!!!!

Dropping a patient: Send certified letters to the state and the patient notifying both that you no longer be his caregiver. Include copies of your paper work with the letter to the state.

 

[skiweeds]

Sounds like this guy has you a little intimidated.

Hole card: He's not allowed to posses/cultivate plants once he assigned you as his caregiver.
So if anything happens he's the one that would get into trouble not you (from what I understand the seedlings are at his place not yours)
If they are in fact at your place, just throw them out or transfer them to another C/G on your own..

I'm really not sure how to say this without sounding rude so please understand I'm not try to insult you, but it sounds like you need to grow a pair, and stand up to this guy..

P.s. love your signature!!!!!!!

Dropping a patient: Send certified letters to the state and the patient notifying both that you no longer be his caregiver. Include copies of your paper work with the letter to the state.

everything is at his house. i go there everyday and do the work. all the equipment is mine, he payed for none of it yet.

im not intimidated in the least bit by him, but i dont want him getting all pissed at me and to tell me to leave and lose my equipment in which case i would probably just say ok after i get my shit out. i mean hes old and handicapt, theres no way he could hurt me. i wouldnt hurt him bad or anything if he tried something, but it wouldnt be hard to throw him down. hes the one that got all upset and walked away all pissy and wouldnt even discuss it when i brought up were doing this my way or im not doing it at all and he has to find a new caregiver. he took it way too personal and got very emotional over it. hes very unstable. my other concern about that is i dont want him getting all sad and going back to drinking or committing suicide or something like that. he does talk about it. wish i could help him but hes gotta help himself first. thanks for the help.

 

[Pipe Dream]

I don't understand why you have grow equipment at his house, esecially if he can't grow. Sounds to me that he's realized that he could grow his own meds so I would let him. Tell im to pay for the equipment or your taking it back and he will have to buy his own or find a new careiver who will grow for him.

 

[BendBrewer]

Yeah, I suggest transferring the grow card to him. Do it in a way that is a win-win for everyone involved. He can take the risk and repay you for the equipment through product. Be cool, don't blow up, just let him know that if he is going to take the risk, that's cool but you need out.

 

[skiweeds]

he doesnt have a pot to piss in. im doing this as a favor for him and so he can actually make a little cash. there is no way he could afford to reimburse me. and no he cant grow his own. at least not very good. before i was his caregiver he was using t12s and even planning on using them in flower. his nutes were generic bulk packages of walmart junk used for basically a yard or large landscape. garden was fugus gnat infested. i became friends with him over the past couple years but hes showing his true colors. im not gonna blow up on him. i think hes just really upset and afraid of losing me. he took my advice way too personal. its my money, and my way or no way. my other patient has never once complained. i mean come on free weed, i dont think he realizes how big of a favor. i have other people who are friends, much more stable, dying to let me be there caregiver and get in on it free of charge, just dont have enough space atm, and neither do the other patients. i need to fucking rent a place. been looking for a few months but i need the perfect place. i have extra money at my disposal every week, but that dont mean im going to give free equipment away. thanks for the help!

 

[Buddy Ganga]

Sorry man but I'd walk in and take my shit with me when I left. It's really as simple as that.
Whats he going to do, call the cops ?

 

[BendBrewer]

Well there is middle ground.

Next time you are over there, kill those fucking plants of his. Cut'em. Burn'em. Poison'em. Do whatever you have to do. Let him know or not. But give them the old Osama treatment.

 

[wiseguy316]

How do you drop a patient? Hold him up about six feet in the air, say oops! and let go. He will get the hint. Then take your stuff and leave.

 

[staple]

i would end it asap partnerships never work even with people you know well

 

[a mongo frog]

never call the cops. tell him were going have to close down shop. u already know this but as growers were not supposed to piss people off that know what we do,that includes frinds ex girlfriends etc. some times we have to take the high road and swallow our pride. kindly take your gear back and get away from this guy. good luck.

 

[thexception]

u should have just told him straight up, from the moment he planted them...get rid of them or I will. This is not our arrangement & it cannot be, simply as that. Tell him tomorrow he has 24 hrs to decide if ur getting rid of the overage in plants or he is going back to using his T12's & ur going to remove ur equipment & try to help someone who understands & appreciates the liberty of the law as it is. Simple, to the point, his choice of which he'll have to live with. ur not responsible for what he does, how he feels, etc. if he makes the choice by action or inaction. like u said he's a grown ass man & has been more then around the block...he knows the drill. it has been nice of u to be patient this long. just DO IT!

 

[medicalsb420]

get a couple buddies and have them help you load the gear up... cuts down on the awkward time. he was probably just bummed his efforts went unappreciated, and grown men dont like to be scolded for fucking up, but thats his problem. sounds like you got the right idea, so tell him it's your way or not at all- but even at that you got to worry about him fucking you over at this point IMO. I'd pull the gear and maybe buy/give him a smaller light+setup that he can reimburse you for at the end?win win

 

[puffntuff]

For real tell that dude fuck off. We ain't going over the limit if you do my shit is outta here. Tell him to throw his sativas outdoors somewhere fuck that.

 

[LordWinter]

I see your point, Puff, but even then... I'd be hitting the brakes on the dude real fast and getting my shit out of there. LEO is hard enough on us right now as is, I wouldn't put it past them to try and claim it was all one grow just because the extra plants were on the same property as the legit ones.

 

[Beagle]

You can take the grow room out of the equation by moving it to your place. If he wants to break the arrangement and grow on his own that's up to him...unless you want to be done with him.

 

[jesus of Cannabis]

Well there is middle ground.

Next time you are over there, kill those fucking plants of his. Cut'em. Burn'em. Poison'em. Do whatever you have to do. Let him know or not. But give them the old Osama treatment.

you dont fuck with another mans grow

thats just bad mojo to intentionally kill cannabis, w medicine used to help and heal many.

 

[MsBBB]

you dont fuck with another mans grow
thats just bad mojo to intentionally kill cannabis, w medicine used to help and heal many.

I have learned a few things from your situation of being a caregiver. I "think" this is where I would like to go with my MMJ growing. I feel for those who need MMJ but are too weak or can't afford to grow, or even purchase their own. This patient of yours does not know how good he has it! He provides the space, you provide the grow operation (equipment, fertilizer, plants/seeds, and work) plus pay for the electricity for the grow operation, and he doesn't want to follow the rules. Then again, once you start growing it does get addictive, he just wants to contribute to his cause. You are and have tried to work this out with him, he's an adult and if he wants to do things his way in his home, let him. Take as much of your equipment that you can take on one trip out of there. If he let's you back in take anything else that belongs to you out! The both of you are documented so if LEO is called you should be legally alright, too bad this will bring unwanted attention to what you are doing. This situation is "supposed" to work out for the both of you.

 

[LordWinter]

To be honest, bringing something like that to the attention of LEO might be something good. It could help legitimize med growers by showing that we WANT to follow the law instead of pushing the boundaries like some are doing.

 

[MIway]

Jesus... fucking calling cops... getting friends... killing plants...???

So are you two looking for enemies? Trying to fuck with one another?? Really kick each other in the balls??? Send the bastard to the cops????


WTF... chill out... work it out so you can split ways amicably... it's not worth the fucking grief. Move on.