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Matt Rize

Matt Rize

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Da Almighty Jew said:
Professor Matt i have a question. I want to try to use compost tea to root my clones in rockwool. Then transplant in soil with the rest. When i bubble it for a few days it goes to neutral. Would that be safe to use?? Because i know hydro they recommend 5.8-6.0 ph. But in my compost tea i include humic acids( chelate) lemon juice(chelate) molasses(chelate). So im thinking my ph wouldnt matter too much for rockwool. What do ya think? :shock:
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I have very little experience with rockwool, it's my least favorite media these days because it's an irritant and is not really compost material. I would do a small test run on a couple plants to see what happens.
 
sharpshoota

sharpshoota

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hey matt,
ok I started supercropping a little over week ago for the first time, and loving the results. I have a few questions for ya tho.

My babies are are 3 ft right now still vegging and i have some of the lowest branching that isnt quite coming up like i would like, they are about a foot maybe and i want them to be 3 ft. Im thinking if supercropped at a lower point on the main stalk, it would help out, but the stalk is to thick the bend now... maybe i started supercropping a little late but what should i do?

Also when i bent the main stem on a couple of them, it never came back up, it just stayed at the bent 90 degree angle and the new growth started shooting up at the end of the tip, as well as other points. But do i need to put a stake in and force it back upright??
 
sharpshoota

sharpshoota

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well their outdoors, so hieght isnt an issue...
i was just trying to get more tops of coarse, and the 90 degree angle just seemed strange to me. just not what i was expecting...
the main stalk goes up 3 ft, 90 degree angle for about 6-7 inches, then back up, just looks funny 2 me
 
NightbirdX

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Ya they do that. I have had some stand right back up no matter how much I bent them, but still caused the bottoms to catch up. I had a top that got broken and was lying down and it basically just grew a knot and stayed where it was. The bud was still nice and big it just never stood back up or even looked like it wanted to.
 
sharpshoota

sharpshoota

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yeah cause some of them came back up, but others layed flat... its still growing fine and the lower growth has responded quickly im still happy.
just not sure if the bent ones would affect anything or become bothersome when im trying to supercrop multiple times.
 
Matt Rize

Matt Rize

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sharpshoota said:
hey matt,
ok I started supercropping a little over week ago for the first time, and loving the results. I have a few questions for ya tho.

My babies are are 3 ft right now still vegging and i have some of the lowest branching that isnt quite coming up like i would like, they are about a foot maybe and i want them to be 3 ft. Im thinking if supercropped at a lower point on the main stalk, it would help out, but the stalk is to thick the bend now... maybe i started supercropping a little late but what should i do?

Also when i bent the main stem on a couple of them, it never came back up, it just stayed at the bent 90 degree angle and the new growth started shooting up at the end of the tip, as well as other points. But do i need to put a stake in and force it back upright??
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Horizontal training is great, that's what you are doing with the bending. No need to force it back up, about half of my tops are bent over, that's how I create an even canopy for flowering.
 
NightbirdX

NightbirdX

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tried to listen in, couldn't get it to work. I actually had made a sort of lazy mistake that really benefited me in the end. I ended up having a hellacious week and forgot to rotate my plants one week after I had transplanted them into 5 gallons. One side was markedly taller than the other. I transplanted them into 10 gal buckets before I sent them into flowering. I don't normally stake the plants until the second week of flowering to let the plant develop as it wants and then open it up. With these that had grown "lopsided, I pulled the longer tops to one side and the shorter to the other and it really created this interesting canopy in a "V" shape. On each side of the lights, the plants are sloping up with the lowest under the light and the tallest furthest away. It is actually pretty cool and has made it really convenient in spreading out and making an even canopy, looking down the row of lights kinda looks like looking down the length of a half pipe. The lights in the middle and the plants are the pipe. Gonna try to recreate this. The light dispersion is amazing and it really gives an equal amount of light to all the buds. All the buds are pretty uniform and swelling and the tops in the back are starting to connect and swell quite a bit, but don't compete with the smaller plants for light. I'll try to get some pics up of it later.
 
sharpshoota

sharpshoota

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ive become addicted to supercropping 3rd time in about 2 weeks lol there is no stress and the response is quick.

nightbird that sounds interesting, a half pipe lol im picturing it now. that sounds like a very effective use of lighting ndoors tho
 
PakaloloHui

PakaloloHui

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Completely controlled environment to make Selecta's solventless earwax, There is so much truth to the fact that your humidity should as well be maintained for the process and procedure. Great insight. Nice to hear your voice Matt, eventhough your voice wasn't mic'd like the the earwax guru.

I was reading through this journal yesterday while you guys were live and I was going through the pages where you listed the fermenting process of different herbs and natural/local plant species. It kinda made me stop and wonder about how some of the best herb I have ever smoked here on the Southern Oregon Coast was by farmers, who make their own soil, and I do not believe that they add any manures to their soil mix. They basically take 10 years to make a batch of soil. Over the course of the years they scrap fine layers of humus and dead plant material off of hillsides near or on their farms, add all the vegetable waste and scraps from their farms and continue to turn throughout the years with their tractors. They simply do not buy any products, I've asked and just give plain water all the way through the grow. 400 watt used for veg. and 600 watt for bloom. their plants are trained to be no more than 22" tall with a total of 8" of growth and skinny legs all below that (14" to the soil). They use SCROG method with a netiting that has 2" squares that is 18" x 18" and fill completely before turning to 12/12. Min. 6oz. Avg. 8oz. of the best tasting/burning/potent herb I have had.

The strains grown this way that I have experienced. Dynamite, Shiskaberry, Trainwreck, God Bud.

I almost guarantee that they grow veganic, but will ask to verify when I see them again. Probably next month though.

It looks like I will be going to the beach and doing some hiking in my backyard this summer to start to find and make all these fermented extracts to add to specialized compost piles (fungal dominant, bacterial, dominant, and balanced), and with these I can make my specialized teas, giving a fungal dominant when needed and so forth.

Yet there are a few more books that I would like to add to my arsenal, and they are the ones that have also been listed on this thread. I've read "Teaming with Microbes" great book, and would love to add the others.

Hope you had a great evening in the Bay Area.
 
R3DROCk9

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slightly vaped..


im in the process of dividing my vermitea block up into pieces...i figure if i can get 5 equal parts from the 250 gallon block, thats 50 gallons at a time (90$ for the block)...dilute 25 of that for now and refridgerate the other 25 gallons (will be good in fridge for another week or two)....they say wen you make the tea you have it stay good in concentrated form for the week or two...once you add more water to it...you have about another two weeks after that to use it before it smells like a sewer.....we'll see
also....matty .....any experience with insect frass??? i dont really wanna add kaakaa to my garden, bu heard the natural chemical in the frass makes the plant think it getting attacked so it produces more trichromes......maybe we could isolate the chem without the shit????

anyways, i jus been looking into how to increase essential oils, if anyone has sum good ideas, i would love to hear them...

also been thinking abiut adding a sunpulse uva light (10k infared or violet) during the last week or two of flower to help with trich production....any thoughts???....pce
 
PakaloloHui

PakaloloHui

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It is the UVB spectrum that you are after. Reptile lights marked with a 10.0 or something like that is what you want to shop for. If I had the room in my closet, don't laugh, I definately would add a few UVB light that would increase the trichome production. And yes, those bulbs do also have UVA in them, but look for the ones with High UVB. You'll see what I mean when you shop around.

Here is a site that has various styles and bulbs. http://www.thatpetplace.com/pet/cat/info/23276/category.web
 
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