Atheism Anyone?
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Farfenugen
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Well, just be sure never to tell a Muslim that, otherwise they'll off your head and kill your family.
cannawizard
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my god can kick your god's ass, --cheers
karri0n
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ChronicObsession
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Atheism would be fucking brilliant if its virtues could be applied to upholding laws of the nation. I DON'T BELIEVE IN MARIJUANA BEING ILLEGAL. Uh ohs, so does that mean I am no longer bound to the affects of being ARRESTED? fucking rediculous. There are a lot of points to debate but seriously, who cares? Atheists will do their thing, and people that have the Holy Spirit will do others. I suppose Atheists laff much less at rediculous shit like Black Magic and Witches, but oh, Jesus Christ is the funniest zombie joke they know.
guy incognito
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I care. I don't like seeing people brainwashed. Nor do I like living in a society of brainwashed people. Especially when the brainwashing can lead to further irrational decisions like bigotry and intolerance.
ChronicObsession
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Yea Guy, if we actually got paid to debate what the government can't even control, we could do it all day and every day. But right now, the I don't care part is because there is simply not enough patience/time devoted to humanitarian projects like solving the age old problem between religion vs religion vs atheism.
sativagod
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I won't label maybe as an atheist,as that comes with a belief system in itself. I simple don't know and don't care, being rooted in science and logic,then understanding emotional concepts religion or god is way at the bottom of my list of 5000 concerns.
That said, I am happy religion exist, as it is an effectively form of self-government, without this, this world would be a much more crazy place to live it.
That said, I am happy religion exist, as it is an effectively form of self-government, without this, this world would be a much more crazy place to live it.
ChronicObsession
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As indirect as possible here I would like to pose the questions... so science basically says we are fucked once our internal organs can no longer support working together? We just "go to sleep forever", right? Basically a guy like Hitler could be as bad ass as possible and cause the direct/indirect DEATH and Suffering of millions, and then just die and well he can sleep in peace now, no retribution for that mother fucker. I like science, but anyone that believes that we are not monkeys and the buck doesn't stop here knows that Science is a Don of the holyspirit. I guess I am expecting too much from others who don't have any inclination to stuff outside of the box, unless it's dinosaurs, wormholes in space, ghosts, witches, penis enlargement pills, ahh yes, those really put a nice touch to the end of my own personal life experience.
guy incognito
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No. Sleeping is a process that requires you to be alive.
cannawizard
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*prepare to meet your maker... --if that wasnt funny, then i guess im just really baked right now
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Stark Raving
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As comforting as it may be to imagine evil people like Hitler suffering after he died, that comfort doesn't make it a fact. Just because we want something to be true doesn't make it so. Unfair? Well sure, I guess. But isn't that reality?
Thinking outside the box is a term often used to make an idea that is completely unsupported by anything other than fantasy, seem like critical thinking. To really think critically (ie. "outside the box") we have to accept that certain things are simply unknown, and possibly unknowable. Filling in the blanks with, "god did it" is narrow minded. So when we see something that seems totally unfair, sometimes it's just that. Unfair. Accepting that is what brings atheists peace.
"From the faith that you release, find an atheists peace."
Thinking outside the box is a term often used to make an idea that is completely unsupported by anything other than fantasy, seem like critical thinking. To really think critically (ie. "outside the box") we have to accept that certain things are simply unknown, and possibly unknowable. Filling in the blanks with, "god did it" is narrow minded. So when we see something that seems totally unfair, sometimes it's just that. Unfair. Accepting that is what brings atheists peace.
"From the faith that you release, find an atheists peace."
Brazko
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I can accept the thought of there always being unknowns, but I do not accept the position that there is a limit of what can be known. Maybe after reaching past limits of what was unknown we may find more, but accepting failure to the unknown isn't just being narrow minded. It's just that, acceptance towards failure.. in my opinion
Heisenberg
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I didn't realize science was making any definitive claims about the afterlife. I had understood it as science is unable to support religious claims of the afterlife, though not from lack of trying. Show me these studies which conclude that we just go to sleep forever.
Stark Raving
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I agree with you 100% I re-read my post and was not clear. By unknowable, I meant that there is always the possibility that something will be unknowable to US, as individuals. I would never discount the possibility of us as a species aquiring any knowledge ever. It's why I used the word "possibility". It's about accepting that some things I just won't be able to learn in my lifetime. That's not to say I wouldn't persue that knowledge, just that I may not be able to get there. And I'm cool with that. The persuit of knowledge is the noblest of goals.
Brazko
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I assumed you meant that but I wanted to point it out since it didnt read that way. I agree a 100% with what you said as well, we may not figure it all out in our lifetime but we can lay the foundation for future generations to do so.
sync0s
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If a god created everything we know, what created this god? What created that creator?
Can god microwave a burrito so hot, even he can't eat it? - Homer Simpson (I've gotten a lot of shit for using this quote as reinforcement that there is no "god" as english language would define it, because believers have a horrible time realizing that by even answering this question you've already admitted that your god is not all powerful)
Can god microwave a burrito so hot, even he can't eat it? - Homer Simpson (I've gotten a lot of shit for using this quote as reinforcement that there is no "god" as english language would define it, because believers have a horrible time realizing that by even answering this question you've already admitted that your god is not all powerful)
Heisenberg
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Although I agree with your sentiment, I wouldn't let you get away with that question either as reasoning against god. It is a tautology. The premise assumes the conclusion. It really doesn't suggest anything meaningful, especially to a believer. Someone with faith could easily say yes, god can make a burrito so hot that he can not eat it, and then he can turn around and eat it, he is after all, god. Remember, people of faith are satisfied with ignorance and prone to magical thinking. I do not mean to belittle you but to help you perhaps construct a more productive argument.
sync0s
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If someone said that to me, I wouldn't need a better argument.. If you have faith it does not give you a reason to use clinical insanity as an argument.
I agree with you that people with faith have responses like that. Partially responsible for the fact that the bible says "God always was" and they accept that as proof without ever stopping to think that if the bible explained how god himself came to be it would completely expose the bullshit that surrounds the christian religion.
Religion only promotes ignorance and murder on mass proportions all the while giving the people a reason to illogically and insanely justify such actions.
I agree with you that people with faith have responses like that. Partially responsible for the fact that the bible says "God always was" and they accept that as proof without ever stopping to think that if the bible explained how god himself came to be it would completely expose the bullshit that surrounds the christian religion.
Religion only promotes ignorance and murder on mass proportions all the while giving the people a reason to illogically and insanely justify such actions.