LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

hyroot

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Wow I'm impressed. That looks awesome. I know those will swell up so much more too. I just got my badboy 8 bulb. Im anxious to get bulbs .I have to wait to get get paid to get them though. Bills come first.
 

pr0fesseur

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Wow I'm impressed. That looks awesome. I know those will swell up so much more too. I just got my badboy 8 bulb. Im anxious to get bulbs .I have to wait to get get paid to get them though. Bills come first.
They seem to love the heat so long as they get water! these airpots i must say keep the roots nice and cool!!! just have to keep watering them!!!
 

novice11

Active Member
Pr0fesseur, I want to play but remain a bit confused. I also have an 8 bulb T5. But you only list 6 bulbs.

What are the 8 - or is it 11? - bulbs I should get and in what position 1-8 of the fixture do they go in? (They are 48" long). Which ones get swapped for bloom, where do they go?

THANKS!
 

Precog420

Member
novice11,

My set up is as follows (in this order)

UVL 454 W/internal reflector
Fiji Purple
UVL super actinic w/internal reflector
ATI 12k aquablue speacial (I think that the ATI blue plus is probably a more viable bulb here)
UVL 75.25 w/internal reflector
Fiji pruple

these lights will give you a good spectrum to veg from, with any empty space I would use more blue (blue plus)(actinic) bulbs for veg and more red for flower(redsun), or the Fiji purple is a good mix of both blue and red, pr0fessor suggested to me to look at the Fiji purple as like a "Base" and to build from it to get what you need, depending on veg/flower and how many tubes your using. As for the order of the lights, I wouldnt put the same bulbs next to each other and if I remember correctly I think that I remember reading not to put the red bulbs on the ends. (not sure how serious this is)
this is just what ive gathered and I am by no means experienced!
 

Millsie

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loved that vid! Got me really thinking, a simple search of UVB for marijuana brought up fantastic results...
I'd been thinking since UVB is harmful rigging up a door trigger so when the doors shut its on and when its open its off, protecting you from the harmful rays...
(I later found a post of someone who actually did this - so at least I know its possible..)
(Some people even said a blacklight maybe able to emit the light that the plants require ~ I couldn't do anymore research on this though)

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/36510-uvb-thc-experiment-2.html ~ Is one from our very own RUI, very short though...

http://www.greenmanspage.com/guides/thc.html ~ I must admit I haven't read this one yet, but I skimmed and it mentions quite a few studies..

Very interesting stuff! Seriously looking to get a UVB light in about a month...
Does anyone else know about UVB or is currently running it in their setups?
 

pr0fesseur

Well-Known Member
novice11,

My set up is as follows (in this order)

UVL 454 W/internal reflector
Fiji Purple
UVL super actinic w/internal reflector
ATI 12k aquablue speacial (I think that the ATI blue plus is probably a more viable bulb here)
UVL 75.25 w/internal reflector
Fiji pruple

these lights will give you a good spectrum to veg from, with any empty space I would use more blue (blue plus)(actinic) bulbs for veg and more red for flower(redsun), or the Fiji purple is a good mix of both blue and red, pr0fessor suggested to me to look at the Fiji purple as like a "Base" and to build from it to get what you need, depending on veg/flower and how many tubes your using. As for the order of the lights, I wouldnt put the same bulbs next to each other and if I remember correctly I think that I remember reading not to put the red bulbs on the ends. (not sure how serious this is)
this is just what ive gathered and I am by no means experienced!
spacing should be as such
you want the plants to get an even light pattern so try to space lights 2 bulbs away from each of the similar spectrum.
fuji
blue
red
fuji
75.25
red
blue
fuji
this is an example!
 

PetFlora

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FYI I just spoke with Aquarium Specialty. They have all the bulbs that PreCog420 uses

My RedSuns are being shipped for the 3rd time. Twice broken in route. good thing I wasn't waiting on them to start a grow, or flip one
 

pr0fesseur

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That's ups for you always breaking shit!!! I'm out countless dollars from their negligance. But good luck with your setup!
For those asking about veg bloom.. simply replace one or two actnics with a red sun...as the Fiji have red and the 75.25 12000k also have "some" red
I am still looking for a "far" red like The ATI pro color! (discontinued!) Or something with a far red spectrum...
 

PetFlora

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This may be a dumb Q but, if you placed a red sun (or some other red next to a blue would you get the equivalent of a purple?
 

Precog420

Member
I would be so pissed about that many broken bulbs!, FedEx delivers most of my things, I havent had anything broken yet. luckily I guess! ordering from 5+sites can get rather expensive on shipping cost so it is rather nice that aquarium specialty has a large variety of quality bulbs.bongsmilie
 

hyroot

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i hate fed ex. they are never on time. and they;re website sucks. you can't even track your package as detailed as ups. oh ups gives free insurance up to $100. so if they break your bulbs. they should cover it.
 

pr0fesseur

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This may be a dumb Q but, if you placed a red sun (or some other red next to a blue would you get the equivalent of a purple?
No its a red and a blue bulb... they all have different spectrum..light doesent "mix" thats an optical illusion..
 

hyroot

Well-Known Member
In the words of Cartman. " You warped my fragile little mind"

those look mouth watering. I want to get mine started so bad. I have to wait a couple weeks to get the bulbs. cool thing is my homies cousins next door neighbor owns an aquarium shop and is hooking me up with those bulbs for 15 to 20 each. I don't have to order them
 
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