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Phillip J Fry

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My local Lowes does not carry the 3/4" black vinyl hose. The guy at lowes said they didnt have those grommets either. Is there a site where i can order grommets, tube, and connectors? Can't wait to get this going!! Thanks for the help peoples! I just put a bunch of cuttings into riot rooter plugs, weeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
 

hellraizer30

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My local Lowes does not carry the 3/4" black vinyl hose. The guy at lowes said they didnt have those grommets either. Is there a site where i can order grommets, tube, and connectors? Can't wait to get this going!! Thanks for the help peoples! I just put a bunch of cuttings into riot rooter plugs, weeeeeeeeeeeeeee.
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there made by cap so any dealer will have them
 

Ferredoxin

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My conversion to 3/4" PVC went very well. The buckets flood more or less at the same rate, and much quicker. The drain cycle also goes faster. I had a problem in my first go-around in this system where the roots grew into the tubing and plugged it up a bit. When this happens, all the plants further down the chain suffer. With the setup now, this either wont happen or will be very easy to remedy.
Thanks to hellraizer for the ingenuity! I really recommend this conversion. It cost me about $100 and 2 evenings of work for 24 buckets, but I could have done it for cheaper if I would have thought ahead a little bit.

Here are a few pics...
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jdmcwestevo

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My conversion to 3/4" PVC went very well. The buckets flood more or less at the same rate, and much quicker. The drain cycle also goes faster. I had a problem in my first go-around in this system where the roots grew into the tubing and plugged it up a bit. When this happens, all the plants further down the chain suffer. With the setup now, this either wont happen or will be very easy to remedy.
Thanks to hellraizer for the ingenuity! I really recommend this conversion. It cost me about $100 and 2 evenings of work for 24 buckets, but I could have done it for cheaper if I would have thought ahead a little bit.

Here are a few pics...
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nice greentrees upgraded their buckets to runn 3/4" tubing sooo much better i'll post pics of the buckets
 

Osburn

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Well, the Qrazy Trains have officially left the station. They're only a month into flower and I'm already getting some fat buds. Can't imagine what they'll look like in a month. I've been bending the hell out of them because they're getting so tall and they're reacting really well to the stress. I picked up one of the interior buckets to check out the roots and they were healthier than any roots I had using DWC one month into flower. I'm really starting to love this monster system.
 

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hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
My conversion to 3/4" PVC went very well. The buckets flood more or less at the same rate, and much quicker. The drain cycle also goes faster. I had a problem in my first go-around in this system where the roots grew into the tubing and plugged it up a bit. When this happens, all the plants further down the chain suffer. With the setup now, this either wont happen or will be very easy to remedy.
Thanks to hellraizer for the ingenuity! I really recommend this conversion. It cost me about $100 and 2 evenings of work for 24 buckets, but I could have done it for cheaper if I would have thought ahead a little bit.

Here are a few pics...
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Nicely done! You will like it alot
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Well, the Qrazy Trains have officially left the station. They're only a month into flower and I'm already getting some fat buds. Can't imagine what they'll look like in a month. I've been bending the hell out of them because they're getting so tall and they're reacting really well to the stress. I picked up one of the interior buckets to check out the roots and they were healthier than any roots I had using DWC one month into flower. I'm really starting to love this monster system.
Looking good osbum
 

jcannons

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Well I had my first flood last night.....25 gallons of water pumped onto the floor and down through the ceiling to the first floor....... I can't seem to figure out why. When I went into the grow room, the pump "out" pump was running even though the control bucket was empty. My first reaction was to unplug everything. Now that I have plugged it back in, everything seems to be normal.... WTF? The pump "In" obviously didn't shut off for some reason because the barrel is empty..... Anyone else have this experience?

J
 

drgreentm

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Well I had my first flood last night.....25 gallons of water pumped onto the floor and down through the ceiling to the first floor....... I can't seem to figure out why. When I went into the grow room, the pump "out" pump was running even though the control bucket was empty. My first reaction was to unplug everything. Now that I have plugged it back in, everything seems to be normal.... WTF? The pump "In" obviously didn't shut off for some reason because the barrel is empty..... Anyone else have this experience?

J
sometimes my controller gets stuck on the fill setting so even though the brain says its on a drain cycle, all the buckets are full of water. i unplug it and plug it back in and evberything starts running perfect (only happened twice) i noticed it was everytime i moved it around or had to unplug it and plug it back in a few time for maintenance. that sucks though man sorry to hear that.
 

Phillip J Fry

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Cut clones of Recon, Blueberry, No Name, and Special Kush #1 last night and put into the rooters. Looks like my local Home Depot carries all the parts to finish my build. Now to figure out how I am gonna veg, maybe a flood table?? hmm. Want to keep 4 moms and 4 vegging plants at all times. My veg room is ~3"x8". Was thinking about using a 3"x4" table since it would fit right under my T-5. I want it to be around 6-8 inches deep filling it to about 4-5". I was gonna leave the tray empty other than the eight pots filled with hydron. How big of a res you recon I need for a table like that?
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Well I had my first flood last night.....25 gallons of water pumped onto the floor and down through the ceiling to the first floor....... I can't seem to figure out why. When I went into the grow room, the pump "out" pump was running even though the control bucket was empty. My first reaction was to unplug everything. Now that I have plugged it back in, everything seems to be normal.... WTF? The pump "In" obviously didn't shut off for some reason because the barrel is empty..... Anyone else have this experience?

J
Only when the syphon hole gets plugged
 

med4u

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ok went and bought 5 gallon buckets from lowes along with a 64 gallon trash can for a res. Now i think ill order the grommets and hose/fittings from online.

pjf,you may want to try and fill that trash can outside first,64 gals is a bunch for a flimsy can,55 gal drums can be had at your local car wash,i get em for 10 bux,and clean em out real good,jus a suggestion good luck
 

Phillip J Fry

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pjf,you may want to try and fill that trash can outside first,64 gals is a bunch for a flimsy can,55 gal drums can be had at your local car wash,i get em for 10 bux,and clean em out real good,jus a suggestion good luck
Thanks

But this trash can is not your run of the mill can, it is super heavy duty.
http://www.lowes.com/pd_20990-60948-00723105200020_0__?productId=3024255&Ntt=trash+can&pl=1&currentURL=%2Fpl__0__s%3FNtt%3Dtrash%2Bcan&facetInfo=
but ya i understand since i got a regular trash can for my R/O res. It is not that easy to find a good clean 55 gallon drum around me.
 

jdmcwestevo

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For what it's worth...

Preparing a microbe tea outside of the res is not necessary in an ebb and flow setup. We do it in DWC when the system has been shown to be prone to root slime because the slime can feed off the food before the bennies and outgrow them. In my experience, prevention of this type of slime is inherent to an ebb and flow system as the roots sit in air most of the time. So, for ebb and flow, breeding them in the res makes sense. Just dump in some GW powder and some food every once in a while and be done with it.

Of course the tea would offer a few advantages. Using EWC you would get a more diverse microbe community. You wouldn't have to add food or housing to the res. You have a cheap supply of freshly active microbes in case you need to refill a res on the spot. Plus the great white would end up lasting longer, since we only use half dose in the tea, and then use the tea to inoculate gallons and gallons of water. If none of these are important to the grower, then no need to complicate things.

The product at fungi.com is exactly the same as great white, but without the bio-stimulant package or the plant vitamins.


just found this related to those bennies we were discussing before he says you CAN breed them and feed them in ur res in ebb and flow just not DWC
 

dbkick

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As for benny i would go with a tea its simple
And cheap look up heisenberg thread its a gem
I really see no difference in the homebrewed stuff or just tossing in some great white, if you have to get really anal maybe some voodoo juice .Other than I did end up with a slime issue from the homebrew, an earlier version I guess but still the same difference. Again its just easier to buy a couple ready to go products instead of bubbling worm castings.
 

hellraizer30

Rebel From The North
Well you could do that bckick but im looking at the cost everything it take to make a years worth of tea is like 150$
And bottled stuff would cost a arm and a leg.
 

dbkick

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I've been told to basically discontinue bennies at like 2 weeks into flower, I suppose that may be because theres already a population in the media and probably more or less a waste , I didn't question why but the dude was selling me great white(at like 40 percent discount) and if he truely didn't believe this he wouldn't have told me, he would want me to use more more more.
 

dbkick

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oh and also ....from my tea brewing days I remember something about foliar spraying with ewc tea, possibly to prevent or cure molds and mildew but the details I blurry and I don't think anyone ever did reply to the question.
 

hornedfrog2000

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Ok, this is what my current plan is... I just bought a refurb 12 site normal size unit. I was planning on using 8 of the buckets for mother plants only. Would a 400w mh be enough for this? I'm planning on it being in a 4x4 tent. Is this enough room for 8 mothers??? I plan to have 2 different strains, so 4 mothers will be one strain, and the other 4 another strain. I need approximately 40 clones of each strain every 70 days. Do you think this is an ok plan? This is a perpetual lollipop sog grow.

Please help :D
 
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