Obama is it because he is Black or Democrat

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Carthoris

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How would ensuring nukes are in safe hands "trigger a nuclear holocaust"?
The USA is the only country to have ever used a nuke on someone. I bet if you look, the USA has invaded more countries than USSR did. Hell, maybe more than Nazi Germany,

BTW, USSR killed more people than Nazi Germany was accused of. I don't think you can call them 'safe'.
 

ihatepolice

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You remember a guy named Bush? The country hated him more. Was it because he was white? People always turn their anger towards the government in bad times. Obama is the poster child for the current times, just as Bush was before.
There was people that disliked bush but not like how they dislike obama. If they did bush would have got them taken out.
 

Jack Fate

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The USA is the only country to have ever used a nuke on someone. I bet if you look, the USA has invaded more countries than USSR did. Hell, maybe more than Nazi Germany,

BTW, USSR killed more people than Nazi Germany was accused of. I don't think you can call them 'safe'.
So you think the USA policy with nukes is the same as Islamist terrorists? Better think that one through.

The USA used nukes as a last resort when peace demands were ignored in WWII. Japan was warned and didn't heed the warning. Japan refused to surrender even after the first nuke. Japan was rebuilt by the USA. I don't think Islamists want to rebuil and establish democracies.

The Soviet Union didn't use nukes on anyone and have more of a rational mind than Islamists. They've never used nukes and a terrorist can't wait to get his hands on one to use it.
 

robert 14617

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just because you can do something , doesn't make it a good idea to do it ......i think he ran for office because he could win , not because he was the most qualified to run this country
 

Jack Fate

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Start your day with a chuckle.

[video=youtube;zhhkF3dqXR0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zhhkF3dqXR0&feature=player_embedded#![/video]
 

tokenbrownguy

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theres a lot a president can do without congress, a lot of VERY positive things he could do, as I have discussed in detail on these forums, he has done NOTHING for humanitarianism and NOTHING for progression, NOTHING for the people, same old shit, ZERO CHANGE.
I'm not much on politics, but saying NOTHUNG without some sort of example is not cobducive to anything insightful...what would you like to see the Pres do? He really had quite the clusterfuck to clean up...but lets be reasonable...ge us playing the cards given to him...why would the repubs stonewall EVERY effort the potus has made to move this country in ANY direction....BC its all about earmarks and popularity...you want change? Asseble a group to vociferate the cause you want people back, lobby in Congress, write your senatirs and reps, make noise...this country was founded by people making noise for what they want...the only way to make a change here is to make noise...more house than those soft wall street ptotestors...u want change? Encite a revolt...I bet you get attention focused in all of your causes!
 

ihatepolice

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The Republicans has done everything in their power to stop or block the president in everything he has tried so far. There was even a guy named Grover Norquist that apparently nobody knew about besides the republicans. Is it not that obvious?
 

Jack Fate

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The Republicans has done everything in their power to stop or block the president in everything he has tried so far. There was even a guy named Grover Norquist that apparently nobody knew about besides the republicans. Is it not that obvious?
That's not true. The President and the Democrat controlled congress had no opposition for 2 years. They even passed the massive boondoggle health care bill without one republican vote and the repubs couldn't stop it. Remember? That's why the Dems got tossed out last year. Remember?
 

Mindmelted

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That's not true. The President and the Democrat controlled congress had no opposition for 2 years. They even passed the massive boondoggle health care bill without one republican vote and the repubs couldn't stop it. Remember? That's why the Dems got tossed out last year. Remember?
No they like to forget that!!!!!!
 

PetFlora

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He happens to be in the hot seat at a time (finally) when people are waking up to the con (neo) that our govts incestuous (collusive) relationship with big pharma, monsanto/dupont, military industrial complex... has perpetrated against its' citizens.

We're mad as hell and he is the face of the deep rooted problem that has finally come home to roost. Plus the Hope and Change lie has added fuel to the fire
 

mame

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The left has a very selective short memory. Kinda like a cultic mind.
Presidential terms are 4 years, not two. Also, I vividly remember the death of a senate Democrat that ended up holding the HC bill up for a couple extra months and ultimately ended in the "public option" being dropped from the plan. In case you've forgotten, there is a conservative wing of the Democratic party known as the Blue Dogs and they really did slow the process down a bit. As for our current congress, there has never been so many fillibusters and clotures, etc that this congress now holds the record all-time for overall obstructionism.

You must have a very selective and short memory; Kind of like a "cultic" mind.
 

Jack Fate

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Presidential terms are 4 years, not two. Also, I vividly remember the death of a senate Democrat that ended up holding the HC bill up for a couple extra months and ultimately ended in the "public option" being dropped from the plan. In case you've forgotten, there is a conservative wing of the Democratic party known as the Blue Dogs and they really did slow the process down a bit. As for our current congress, there has never been so many fillibusters and clotures, etc that this congress now holds the record all-time for overall obstructionism.

You must have a very selective and short memory; Kind of like a "cultic" mind.
I know the president' term is 4 years; however, I don't understand what you mean by that.

The democrats ran through their agenda in Obama's first two years unopposed because they had a clear majority in congress. They bribed the blue dogs and made secret deals behind closed doors after Obama promised openness and transparency. Short memory like a cultic mind.
 

ihatepolice

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That's not true. The President and the Democrat controlled congress had no opposition for 2 years. They even passed the massive boondoggle health care bill without one republican vote and the repubs couldn't stop it. Remember? That's why the Dems got tossed out last year. Remember?
they still did everything in their power to stop it just that it still passed because as you said Democrat controlled the house for 2 yrs thats alot of time to fix this huh.
 

ihatepolice

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I know the president' term is 4 years; however, I don't understand what you mean by that.

The democrats ran through their agenda in Obama's first two years unopposed because they had a clear majority in congress. They bribed the blue dogs and made secret deals behind closed doors after Obama promised openness and transparency. Short memory like a cultic mind.

Everyone remembers that just like they remember everything else but what where talking about is now and not what happened 2 yrs ago if thats the case i can say what happened 4 yrs ago and so on. The Republicans are still not willing to help do anything to even try and change anything obama propose is shot down, like the republicans said they will not raise taxes.
 

Jack Fate

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they still did everything in their power to stop it just that it still passed because as you said Democrat controlled the house for 2 yrs thats alot of time to fix this huh.
They didn't try to fix anything. They passed their agenda and made things worse.
 

Jack Fate

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Everyone remembers that just like they remember everything else but what where talking about is now and not what happened 2 yrs ago if thats the case i can say what happened 4 yrs ago and so on. The Republicans are still not willing to help do anything to even try and change anything obama propose is shot down, like the republicans said they will not raise taxes.
Obama has been stopped because he made things worse and that is why the Dems lost so big last fall. The country is at a stalemate and that is a good thing until we can get rid of more of these leftists who are destroying America. We will bounce back as soon as we take out all the trash that is stinking up the place.
 
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