Obama's Contempt Bordering on Treachery

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doc111

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no oneis going to comment on the impossibility of original sin and thus the complete unraveling of the fairy tale that is christianity?
You said that SCIENCE had proven that there is too much genetic diversity to have come from 2 people, thus no original sin..............(I'm paraphrasing a bit). I would really like to read this peer reviewed, scrutinized paper, 'cause this would have some HUGE implications on organized religion.;-)
 

Carne Seca

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I'm not "interpreting" anything. The scripture says the "unrighteous" will not inherit the Kingdom of God and then it lists who are the unrighteous and what they practice. Like I said, I didn't write it and I don't need to interpret it. It's not that difficult to understand. People may not agree with it, but it says what it says.
Practice being the operative word.
 

doc111

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you're right, mongoloid and caucasion and negroid races all evolved out of two inbreeders.

makes perfect sense ;)
Huh? Why isn't it possible? Humanity has been on earth for at least 6,000 years. Once people moved away from the cradle of civilization, they entered different climates and experienced different types of food, etc. That's plenty of time for people to start adapting to their surroundings and thus changing their physical characteristics, slowly over time. Right? :-P
 

Jack Fate

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Practice being the operative word.
Right. Lifestyle. Now you're getting it. Can you interpret this scripture for me? Thanks.

Romans 1:26-27

26For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
 

UncleBuck

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You said that SCIENCE had proven that there is too much genetic diversity to have come from 2 people, thus no original sin..............(I'm paraphrasing a bit). I would really like to read this peer reviewed, scrutinized paper, 'cause this would have some HUGE implications on organized religion.;-)
well, proven was the wrong word. science can't prove diddly.

but it can disprove, and it has disproven the possibility of our diversity stemming from only two people. if i recall correctly, the number they said was about 10,000 is the minimum.

long bit on NPR with two colleagues that absolutely hated each other. not sure where the study is.
 

UncleBuck

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Huh? Why isn't it possible? Humanity has been on earth for at least 6,000 years. Once people moved away from the cradle of civilization, they entered different climates and experienced different types of food, etc. That's plenty of time for people to start adapting to their surroundings and thus changing their physical characteristics, slowly over time. Right? :-P
only if you invoke flying spaghetti monster ;)
 

Carne Seca

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Original sin isn't even biblical. The two verses that are attributed to it were taken out of context and expanded by the Catholic church. The only two verses (once again) that are attempted to prove original sin refer to a spiritual separation of God and the advent or mortality. It has nothing to do with having sin because Adam screwed up.
 

Jack Fate

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Original sin isn't even biblical. The two verses that are attributed to it were taken out of context and expanded by the Catholic church. The only two verses (once again) that are attempted to prove original sin refer to a spiritual separation of God and the advent or mortality. It has nothing to do with having sin because Adam screwed up.
Does the Mormon Church believe it is the only true church?
 

Samwell Seed Well

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my belief in God and my maker transcend a book written and translated by MEN or PEOPLE in general, i wish more could believe in the fundemantal

do unto others

and turn the cheek

and respect thy neighbor
 

The Cryptkeeper

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Huh? Why isn't it possible? Humanity has been on earth for at least 6,000 years. Once people moved away from the cradle of civilization, they entered different climates and experienced different types of food, etc. That's plenty of time for people to start adapting to their surroundings and thus changing their physical characteristics, slowly over time. Right? :-P
6000 is a little conservative don't ya think? I mean, Stonehenge was built 6000 years ago. Either the cradle is SW England or some shenanigans is afoot. :eyesmoke:
 

Samwell Seed Well

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6000 is a little conservative don't ya think? I mean, Stonehenge was built 6000 years ago. Either the cradle is SW England or some shenanigans is afoot. :eyesmoke:
science date testing of objects or materials is wrong of course

im j/k but really i mean carbon dating horribly inaccurate . . . . . .. . i know thats not what they use now but what if they were wrong
 

The Cryptkeeper

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science date testing of objects or materials is wrong of course

im j/k but really i mean carbon dating horribly inaccurate . . . . . .. . i know thats not what they use now but what if they were wrong
Stonehenge has received the most scientific attention of any ancient structure on Earth. :eyesmoke: It's been studied extensively.
 

Carne Seca

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The prophecies are rich in the poetic style. :)
It contains a certain type of Hebraic poetry that I cannot remember off the top of my head. Maybe you can help me. It's a type of mirror effect. You start off with a sentence and end with a sentence almost identical. It's similar to parallelism but I cannot think of the right word. Damn.
 
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