Sr. Verde's: Concentrate Corner

jdro

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I harvested some ladies last night so I got a bunch of trim drying, as soon as my Okeif gets here its on!! Its funny, now that I know about oil my trim piles ends up being more than my nicely manicured bud pile haha whoops. More oil for me :)
 

Brimi

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Hi Guys

So i made my own extractor from a pvc tube (it's not PVC but PP). Put coffee filter on one end and a lid and hole in other end. Stuffed the tube with great trim and ran 3 bottles of gas through. After that i got only about 1/10 of a gram of budder. Looked at the trim after it dried and it is still pretty well covered in trichomes.
Any idea what i do wrong since i don't get the trichomes to dissolve and run through into my candy bowl?
 

jdro

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Hi Guys

So i made my own extractor from a pvc tube (it's not PVC but PP). Put coffee filter on one end and a lid and hole in other end. Stuffed the tube with great trim and ran 3 bottles of gas through. After that i got only about 1/10 of a gram of budder. Looked at the trim after it dried and it is still pretty well covered in trichomes.
Any idea what i do wrong since i don't get the trichomes to dissolve and run through into my candy bowl?
Were you losing any pressure out of the top of your extractor? Was there any butane escaping out of anywhere except what was going into your dish? How much trim actually went into the tube? You should only need 1 can of tane per OZ of plant material.
 

Brimi

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Were you losing any pressure out of the top of your extractor? Was there any butane escaping out of anywhere except what was going into your dish? How much trim actually went into the tube? You should only need 1 can of tane per OZ of plant material.
With only coffee filters in one end how can pressure build up? - but tane went all way through. About 15-20 gr. But no butane escaped anywhere else but through the bottom filter

And trim was only cut to get into the tube. Size of tube about 1.5-2 inch x 1 foot or so.
 

Brimi

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Thinking about grinding up the bud a bit more next time? - just when i did this with my durban it became very colored oily instead of the white/yellow budder stuff i get from Jack Herer
 

TheLastWood

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Look at the trim with a mic. The stalks are there but the trichome heads are empty.

Your tube is the wrong size, once you go bigger than 1" diameter it becomes inefficient. Leaving dry spots inside.

You also may have packed it wrong. Don't pack it super hard. I would use a glass or steel tube only.
 

fdd2blk

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you have to have it packed just right.

too packed and the butane won't pass thru. not packed enough and it doesn't pass thru slow enough.
 

Brimi

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you have to have it packed just right.

too packed and the butane won't pass thru. not packed enough and it doesn't pass thru slow enough.
Packing is probably my worst sinner here. I will try to pack it more. These times i did not pack at all - just let it fell into the pipe and shake a little to make it fit.
 

fdd2blk

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Packing is probably my worst sinner here. I will try to pack it more. These times i did not pack at all - just let it fell into the pipe and shake a little to make it fit.

i crush my trim. then i dump it in the tube a little at a time while i gently tap the bottom of the tube on the floor. very gently though. it's easy to over pack it when your trim is crushed.
 

Brimi

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i crush my trim. then i dump it in the tube a little at a time while i gently tap the bottom of the tube on the floor. very gently though. it's easy to over pack it when your trim is crushed.
Oh! - that fine? Is there any connection to how fine the trim is and how oily the BHO will be (i love to make it into that white yellow budder i know the "not crushed" jack herer gives.) Will that budder become just as nice if i crush the bud a lot?
 

jdro

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Oh! - that fine? Is there any connection to how fine the trim is and how oily the BHO will be (i love to make it into that white yellow budder i know the "not crushed" jack herer gives.) Will that budder become just as nice if i crush the bud a lot?
I think consistency/color comes from the strain. Some strains dont "budder up".
 

Sr. Verde

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I think consistency/color comes from the strain. Some strains dont "budder up".

I Also believe this to be true. Each strain, and grow conditions produce different trichomes. Some people can attest that there is a difference in trichome appearance/consistency from indoor & outdoor grown.

It's all about the trichs :eyesmoke:

I harvested some ladies last night so I got a bunch of trim drying, as soon as my Okeif gets here its on!! Its funny, now that I know about oil my trim piles ends up being more than my nicely manicured bud pile haha whoops. More oil for me :)
:lol: I know what you mean...

"Eh this is kindy tiny.... It would make good oil though.... In the trim pile you go!! :fire:

Then you have a plate of nice nuggets that made the cut, and 3 plates of trim / popcorn / decent tiny buds :lol:

Ah okay - thought grinding it up might expose more other stuff/oils to the butane or something.
It will expose more surface area, which is great. But be careful with your grinding..... Too much can be bad... If you pulverize your material into a powder, and then pack a tube with powder, and try to spray butane into it.... you will not get very far. Imagine dust getting wet, and turning into MUD. Same thing will happen with the herb.

You want it chunky, so that the butane can pass through/around the material and wipe up any trichomes that are exposed..

Think, the same size consistency you would have your herb for a blunt, or a joint. You want your nugget broken up, but you don't want it too fine - you want air to pass freely through your blunt/joint so you can get a good smoke. Just the same with BHO - you want the butane to pass freely so you can take all the essential oils from the cannabis
 

Matt Rize

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Indoor vs Outdoor Jack Herer ice wax (73). The indoor is cleaner, the outdoor smells and tastes better.
Indoor:


Outdoor:
 

Sr. Verde

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Brilliant addition to the conversation. +rep (edit: gotta spread more around)
Very good contrast.


I never know 100% where my herb is coming from, most of the time.. So I cant say with 100% certainty, but I also find my 'outdoor' strains to produce a darker oil, than my 'indoor strains'.... Indica / Sativa also comes into play for the color, I find.
 

PussymOneyWeed

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Damn i've been slackin hard. Spending time with the girl and working has me tapped for time haha. Gonna blaze thru the 20 pages ive missed here and ill throw up a video tonight or tomorrow.

Again, Great thread verde.
 

jdro

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Damn i've been slackin hard. Spending time with the girl and working has me tapped for time haha. Gonna blaze thru the 20 pages ive missed here and ill throw up a video tonight or tomorrow.

Again, Great thread verde.
You gotta turn your posts per page up in your settings, makes going through alot easier. I only see 8 pages in this thread.
 

Brimi

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Brilliant addition to the conversation. +rep (edit: gotta spread more around)
Very good contrast.


I never know 100% where my herb is coming from, most of the time.. So I cant say with 100% certainty, but I also find my 'outdoor' strains to produce a darker oil, than my 'indoor strains'.... Indica / Sativa also comes into play for the color, I find.
Don't know, but my outdoor strain Durban grown indoor gives an amber colored oil that is very fat and oily in the smoke.

Jack Herer so far mostly white/yellow, but not untill buddering up which it does very fast.
 

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researchkitty

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I fucking HATE having 48 plants hanging in a closet drying, but no oil to smoke. :-) Quadruple reclaim drip hits anyone? *cough* *hack* *wheeeeeeeeeeeeze*
 
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