The 12-12 From Seed Thread

del66666

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what do you guys think? del? jimmy? ambs?
thinking mag.. but its strange.. its only affecting the very top bud (usually starts lower doesn't it?), rest of the plant seems fine
ph is correct and i've upped the calmag twice now.
if it is mag def will it go green again once corrected? or just stop it from spreading?

as jimmy says mate i dont reckon its mag or cal...............whats your feeding schedule and doses at the moment mate.......
 

del66666

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I did have my suspicions ... It's my first time on the hps .. It was sitting at about 8" but heat didn't seem to be a problem.. Hand test was barely warm and my thermometer at can canopy level was at decent temps throughout. Reflector is a cooltube attached to vent so you can touch the glass and its not even warm. Light too intense maybe?

I've raised it already as much as I can and they don't seem to be getting any taller anymore so fingers crossed
oops sbilly sorted it then................
 

michaeljdumpout

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I love this thread it has driven me to do amazing things in my new op....just thinking of all the new possibilities thanks dell666 u have really made this happen for.me
 

Hypocrite420

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hey quick question: i know having too much stretch is a bad thing, but is it also bad to not have enough stretch? My 12/12 from seed looks exactly like cherrybomb's and they are the same age, but there is no stretch AT ALL. its working on its 5th node and is MAYBE 3.5" tall. Its also starting to get its real branches (idk what theyre called... the ones that grow below the main nodes that the buds actually grow on)
 

Bluejeans

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hey quick question: i know having too much stretch is a bad thing, but is it also bad to not have enough stretch? My 12/12 from seed looks exactly like cherrybomb's and they are the same age, but there is no stretch AT ALL. its working on its 5th node and is MAYBE 3.5" tall. Its also starting to get its real branches (idk what theyre called... the ones that grow below the main nodes that the buds actually grow on)
I have never heard it referred to as a bad thing. Most people try to keep their plants as compact as possible because that's how the buds stack up and get huge.

This is what you get when you have zero stretch: She's got so much going on in there that there are leaves overlapping and shoving other leaves around, final odd-numbered leaf growing out of the center rather than inline with the others, all sorts of stuff, but she's gonna be one bad ass bitch when she gets done... I've never topped her or anything and this is what I got.





She's a little droopy looking in that pic because it was a nighttime, just before lights out pic and she is always a little "tired" around then. Her night-night time is 11:00 and by 10:30ish, she is really sleepy :lol:
 

cherrybomb74

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hey quick question: i know having too much stretch is a bad thing, but is it also bad to not have enough stretch? My 12/12 from seed looks exactly like cherrybomb's and they are the same age, but there is no stretch AT ALL. its working on its 5th node and is MAYBE 3.5" tall. Its also starting to get its real branches (idk what theyre called... the ones that grow below the main nodes that the buds actually grow on)
Hi man :peace: my plants are more stretchy than i'd ideally like, i've been away from my place quite frequently and so have maybe been a bit too careful with the lighting for safetys sake. When i am around they are close as hell though, but i'm using cfls so they need to be!
Also, these are mostly sativas....but it's only my second grow so i'm not sure if that has much bearing at this stage :dunce: lol
Bluejeans' zero-stretch pic looks very busy!
 

Bluejeans

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Bluejeans' zero-stretch pic looks very busy!
That's not even the half of it...the pic doesn't begin to show how really "busy" it is in there. I'm planning to take some clones this weekend and i was looking at her last night to find possible clone sites. It's unbelievable trying to navigate through the forest in there. I literally have to take a stem at the end and use both hands to follow it back to where it is attached to the main branch. There is no visual line of sight for a single branch in there. It is a JUNGLE!

Despite what I always advise about not trimming fan leaves, I have trimmed over 50 leaves off of her, all from the bottom, and she is STILL a monstrosity. I had to take bottom leaves off just so I could find the top of the reservoir under there and lift and lower it without chopping leaves in half every time. I am anxious to start seeing hairs on her very soon (and NO NANNERS!!!) I can't imagine what she is going to look like in full bloom.
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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what do you guys think? del? jimmy? ambs?
thinking mag.. but its strange.. its only affecting the very top bud (usually starts lower doesn't it?), rest of the plant seems fine
ph is correct and i've upped the calmag twice now.
if it is mag def will it go green again once corrected? or just stop it from spreading?

hey Mantz,
i have what appears to be the same leaf issue as you.freaked me out.. top leaves and buddage:leaf:
here are some pictures of the beginning stages to recovery.
Light Bleaching and Cal mag deficency is what i was told .(sillybilly and delski came to recsue)(thanks you guys):-P
so i raised my light (this did begin shortly after switching to my HPS as well)
and i now suppliment every feed with a cal mag booster. COCO is cal mag deficent. I use Hesi coco and hammerhead in flower as well. Things have dramatically improved as you can tell. My girls are looking real good now. Good luck .:-P

12 12  light bleaching 004.jpgexodus cheese leaf bleaching recovery 002.jpgnov 30 waterfarm and leaves 012.jpg
 

Dr.Amber Trichome

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what? really pink buddage..could i have accidently mixed seeds and lables while planting..cuz i did have 3 blackroses that i planted .and i do recalll a little confusion back then.lol
and the black roses would have had pink buddage....damn your good granny! i will investigate this further when they wake up tonite.
i thought i killed them all because they were males .
. we missed you yesterday grandma.im glad your back .i was worried you got run over by a raindeer. xox amber
 

Bluejeans

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what? really pink buddage..could i have accidently mixed seeds and lables while planting..cuz i did have 3 blackroses that i planted .and i do recalll a little confusion back then.lol
and the black roses would have had pink buddage....damn your good granny! i will investigate this further when they wake up tonite.
i thought i killed them all because they were males .
. we missed you yesterday grandma.im glad your back .i was worried you got run over by a raindeer. xox amber
If you truly have PINK buddage, I will send you my addy for a clone for Christmas! LOL
 

Hypocrite420

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I have never heard it referred to as a bad thing. Most people try to keep their plants as compact as possible because that's how the buds stack up and get huge.

This is what you get when you have zero stretch: She's got so much going on in there that there are leaves overlapping and shoving other leaves around, final odd-numbered leaf growing out of the center rather than inline with the others, all sorts of stuff, but she's gonna be one bad ass bitch when she gets done... I've never topped her or anything and this is what I got.





She's a little droopy looking in that pic because it was a nighttime, just before lights out pic and she is always a little "tired" around then. Her night-night time is 11:00 and by 10:30ish, she is really sleepy :lol:

Gorgeous. Yea i seen plants look like that before and never really knew why. guess it makes sense. Mine is only a little over 20 days from seed so doesnt look like that lol, but soon :)
 

Hypocrite420

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So.... my lights just came on for the day and as I enter my room I realize that I left a little 11w CFL turned on in the room all night. Not right on my girl, but it def kept her awake. My girl is only like 20-25 days old. Been 12/12 since germ. Is this enough to cause her to herm? It seems as tho she didnt grow as much over night as she usually does. Looks pretty much how she did yesterday and usually I notice alot of change overnight....
 

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Bluejeans

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So.... my lights just came on for the day and as I enter my room I realize that I left a little 11w CFL turned on in the room all night. Not right on my girl, but it def kept her awake. My girl is only like 20-25 days old. Been 12/12 since germ. Is this enough to cause her to herm? It seems as tho she didnt grow as much over night as she usually does. Looks pretty much how she did yesterday and usually I notice alot of change overnight....
While that is in no way a good thing, most likely no real harm done. My Alice had a couple of dark periods interrupted during her flowering phase and she did okay. Probably lost a little yield, but she was fine. Don't sweat it too bad. Shit happens... LOL
 
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