Cheap nutes for outdoors

bonkia

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Dyna gro is good stuff im gonna do dynagrow protek but use jacks classic really cheap and alot of people on here love it!
 

bonkia

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Use the 20-20-20 one week then the bloom the next it pretty mich covers everything the plants need..
 

farmerjoe420

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Ok cool, thanks guys, I decided to go with Alaskan fish considering the price and reviews.

if your doing a gureilla grow you better get some fencing because thers no way liquid fence or a bunch of thorn and sticker bushes are gonna stop a animal thats attracted to the fish smell.
 

Eksellent

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if your doing a gureilla grow you better get some fencing because thers no way liquid fence or a bunch of thorn and sticker bushes are gonna stop a animal thats attracted to the fish smell.
If I see problems I will get wiring, but the plant is literally surrounded everywhere by thorns. The main reason I can't really get it as well is because I am planting in a populated area, around a lot of old people. I doubt they would recognize MJ behind trees, bushes and plants. On the other hand, If I put a fence there and someone saw it, it would definitely be suspicious.

rabbit shit
Indeed.
 

farmerjoe420

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If I see problems I will get wiring, but the plant is literally surrounded everywhere by thorns. The main reason I can't really get it as well is because I am planting in a populated area, around a lot of old people. I doubt they would recognize MJ behind trees, bushes and plants. On the other hand, If I put a fence there and someone saw it, it would definitely be suspicious.



i can tell you from experience, the kind of problems you will encounter with fish products near the woods will end your season early, trust me.
 

Mr.Marijuana420

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If I see problems I will get wiring, but the plant is literally surrounded everywhere by thorns. The main reason I can't really get it as well is because I am planting in a populated area, around a lot of old people. I doubt they would recognize MJ behind trees, bushes and plants. On the other hand, If I put a fence there and someone saw it, it would definitely be suspicious.



Indeed.
how are u tending to a plant surrounded by thorns,if u can get to ur plant to water and feed it, animals can get there much easier
 

nick559

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defintely dont go with the micrale grow cause it will be a micrale if that nutrient grows anything good, idk what u consider cheap nutrients, try the happy frog all purpose, mix it in with ur soil and try the happy frog bulb food for flower use as a top dressing, both are relativly cheap, same with dr.earth they have alota solid nutrients for good price, keep in mind when growing organic u need to use water that has no chlorine in it, so if u have a good water source all u need is sum all purpose for veg and bulb food for flower that will be sufficent for good growth and flower, if u have the extra cash try using malibu's compost bu's brews compost tea bags, u have to brew the tea ur self but a air pump and air stone is under ten bucks at wally world, the bu's brew i get for 12 bucks at my local shop, also check the soil u buy make sure its good organic soil like fox farm (a good cheaper soil is kellogs garden & bloome), if its pre mixed with mycorrhizae the better but if not the all purpose will add sum mycos to the soil mix, buying a mycorrhizae innoculant is relavitly cheap too depending on what company u go with, ask ur local garden store to show u all the myco products, other than that all ul need to get is sum un-sulphured molasses to add to ur teas and ur golden, jus remeber that organics relies on good water sources having chlorine in ur water will kill all the mycos and make it very hard for ur plant to eat, if ur lookin into buying liquid nutrients u wont find very many cheap, and liquid nutrients are more suited for the indo enivorment where as outdoors if u let nature do her thing and feed ur soil the soil will feed the plant and give u sum excellent results
IDK why your bashing MG.... I used Mg all purpose and bloom booster last season(at half strenght) with good results....I grew some killer Og kush, and several other strains...
I had five plants....all yeilded a pound or more, had a two pounder Grape ape! :)

Its just how you use your nutes....not too much and you will be fine, Dont over feed.

This year im using the same... MG all purpose for veg and bloom booster for flowering, with superthrive from start to end. maybe a little molasses during flowering also.
 

nick559

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Ive also used Jacks classic 20-20-20 and 10-20-30??? before and its great, But i ran out and bought MG last season and it worked great....I stuck with it because you cant get better than a 1.5lb box of nutes for 5 dollars
 

Vindicated

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Home Depot and Lowes sell the Alaska brand of fertilizers that work really good. I also used and like Kellogg brand General Purpose and Tomato fertilizers.
 

placebofan6

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I use sweet for veg and big bud and bud candy for bloom...works well and depending how large scale you have not entirely expensive
 

chickenpoop

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i baught the alaska fish fertalizer, both kinds, flower and veg. I went deep in the woods, and placed 11 potted plants safely, and pre fertalized the soil with the alaska fish fertalizer. the next day all 11 pots were knocked over and completly dug up. these people are not joking this stuff is dangerous!!

Let me know if my idea will work....im going to get that "black garden mesh" and cover the top soil of the pots poke a hold for the plant to grow and use a rubber-band or rope or something to keep the "black garden mesh" around the pot..
 

tibberous

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IDK why your bashing MG.... I used Mg all purpose and bloom booster last season(at half strenght) with good results....
MG's shitty reputation is probably coming mostly indoors -- keep in mind that, with outdoor plants, anything you give is in addition to what they can pull from the ground.
 

nick559

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MG's shitty reputation is probably coming mostly indoors -- keep in mind that, with outdoor plants, anything you give is in addition to what they can pull from the ground.
I ran two smaller plants also in pots last year with MG and they were good....

Its just most noobs use MG on there first grow because its local and cheap....then they over use it, burn the fuck out of there plants, and then blame the MG. Then the next grow they go out and buy different nutes, and by then they learned to back of the nutes.

But still blame MG for there Mistakes..

There soil with the time release crap is a whole other story...I dont use it.

I stick with kellogs Patio Plus.
 

Kb's seeds

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ya u can find some places to have maxsea for a relavtivly good price, i didnt kno what eksellent consider cheap, i mean i can get a get local bulk nutrients like blood and kelp meal for round 30 cents per pound, i have used the alaskian fish fert before when it was omri rated its lost its omri rating idk why, for outdoors i just bury a fish halfway in my soil mix about two weeks before i plant, u have to take pre cautions tho to make sure no wildlife digs at ur soil cause once wildlife thinks that ground has food sources they will keep coming back, but hey angryblackman nice dr.pepper bud looks like sum firepower!
 

Kb's seeds

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IDK why your bashing MG.... I used Mg all purpose and bloom booster last season(at half strenght) with good results....I grew some killer Og kush, and several other strains...
I had five plants....all yeilded a pound or more, had a two pounder Grape ape! :)

Its just how you use your nutes....not too much and you will be fine, Dont over feed.

This year im using the same... MG all purpose for veg and bloom booster for flowering, with superthrive from start to end. maybe a little molasses during flowering also.

i bash MG for same reasons every other organic grower does, its full of chelating salts that are not meant for consumption, even if u flush the synthetics can still reside in the plant, alota EDTA salts are derived from nasty chemicals look up EDTA salts online, and check how many EDTA salts are used in MG, escpially the time releasing nutrients they have, also MG isnt really made for growing cannabis, its not really made for any fruit or veggie production tho the company will tell u different, many botonist that dont even grow cannabis agree tha MG is a nutrient made for plants that will not be consumed, pretty much a easy way to make sure ur yard looks good, but definitly not made for human consumption, im not the only one who doesnt agree with MG many of my mentors like subcool, jorges cervantes, the rev, neville shcoemaker, and shantibaba have made great arguments against MG, but my opinion on MG is also my opinion and if the MG is working for u then keep with it, if ud like to try anothe relavitely easy to find fertilizer try shculz african violet, never tried it myself but i remeber a articule ed rosenthol wrote awhile back that the african violet fert meets cannabis's nutrient requirement better than MG, u gota remeber in organics mycorrhizae and bacteria break down the nutrients in soil and make em avalible for the plant so the plant will eat what it needs but with synthetics u are forcing that plant to eat instantly and possibly not what it wants, but like u said if u go easy on the feedings, the plants will be fine, check out the african violet tho u might get better results, u never kno
 

Kb's seeds

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o ya nick559 kinda interesting fact i forget to mention in my last post, bout 2yrs ago a buddy grew sum og kush with the MG moisture control potting soil and he swears that it is the best way to grow the finicky og strains, jus thought it was kinda interesting that u mentioned the og responding good to MG too
 
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