LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow

Undercover Cop

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....We went through this with blue b who said they had one at his school and came up with what he thought was a fiji chart which turned out to be fake. Blue b disappeared
Thank god too, notice how she got insulted once then okthanks comes back and tells everyone to go fuck themself... lol they were the same person the whole time from way back in december :)


UC did you see the link I posted on 338 for the sylvania gro lux?
I did, but I think they're only sold in the EU arent they, I think that site was from the UK... I dunno about shipping to AZ, but they do look really nice. I'd love a pair. They look like the SPD that was broadcast for the Fiji Purple that was actually the NLite PURple... looks like that same SPD all over again, but I hear they are rather purple hue'd. I'd like a few, but not enough to pay more than I would for a RedSun, and Im debating if I want to pay $20 for a RedSun (I was back-ordered at HelloLights for 7weeks before I cancelled it)
 

kpmarine

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Im debating if I want to pay $20 for a RedSun (I was back-ordered at HelloLights for 7weeks before I cancelled it)
I'm afraid to ever have to order more redsuns. I got mine in a week, no backorder, all bulbs intact, no endcap problems or early burnout, I'm afraid to ever buy one again. lol
 

hyroot

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Thank god too, notice how she got insulted once then okthanks comes back and tells everyone to go fuck themself... lol they were the same person the whole time from way back in december :)




I did, but I think they're only sold in the EU arent they, I think that site was from the UK... I dunno about shipping to AZ, but they do look really nice. I'd love a pair. They look like the SPD that was broadcast for the Fiji Purple that was actually the NLite PURple... looks like that same SPD all over again, but I hear they are rather purple hue'd. I'd like a few, but not enough to pay more than I would for a RedSun, and Im debating if I want to pay $20 for a RedSun (I was back-ordered at HelloLights for 7weeks before I cancelled it)
They do ship over seas. If you spend $64 its free shipping with UPS. But if you want it faster, I forget how many days its like $55 or $65.

Im debating on them but I want to see the spd for the new uvl 660 bulb first....
 

nuggly

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WOW Finally made it all the way through the thread! Been lurking for awhile really like the mutli spectrum T-5 concept. I like everyone else is tired of guessing on spectrums and waiting
for new bulbs. Found a few links to share but not sure if some of the cheaper spectrographs will be able to measure grow lights at 1 foot.
my light meter needs 2 feet plus or it overloads.

this one was interesting and really cheap
http://www.420magazine.com/forums/do-yourself/163931-diy-spectrometer-check-what-wavelengths-your-lights-give-out.html

The Red tide Spectrometer 350-100nm 1695.00 bottom of page
http://shop.spectrecology.com/Spectrometers_c19.htm

the jazz is interesting expandable and portable but more expensive
http://shop.spectrecology.com/Jaz-Spectrometers_c22.htm
http://www.oceanoptics.com/Products/jaz.asp

Thanks for everyones work it's very intersting!

nuggly
 

kpmarine

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GDP tipped and broke off the roots... Gravity is a vindictive bitch when you attempt to defy her. So it's now been pulled a week early (I think). It was about 90% red/brown hairs, and no new white ones for about a week at least.

DSCF0159.jpgDidn't get much off her, but it beats nothing I suppose.

On a brighter note, I have a GDP (Back left), ATF (Back right), 2x Cali Orange, and 2x Jack Herer coming along. With a 2 liter for reference.

View attachment 2108868View attachment 2108869The Cali Oranges are the taller two of the 4 small plants. The Jack Herer's are the smaller ones, obviously.
 

hyroot

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GDP tipped and broke off the roots... Gravity is a vindictive bitch when you attempt to defy her. So it's now been pulled a week early (I think). It was about 90% red/brown hairs, and no new white ones for about a week at least.

View attachment 2108864Didn't get much off her, but it beats nothing I suppose.

On a brighter note, I have a GDP (Back left), ATF (Back right), 2x Cali Orange, and 2x Jack Herer coming along. With a 2 liter for reference.

View attachment 2108868View attachment 2108869The Cali Oranges are the taller two of the 4 small plants. The Jack Herer's are the smaller ones, obviously.


:hump::hump::hump:
 

polyarcturus

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my pics from yesterday are a page or 2 back\



this is my final decision for veg lighting for my 4 bulbs

wavpoint super blue x2 coralife color max and coralife 6700k


super-6700k-super- colormax (6700 and color max are on the same swutch to stay on 24/0 the supers are on 18/6)
 

falcon223

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You can veg just fine under 6500K, I would throw in a blue bulb or two if you can.
I bought 3 red suns from hello lights, and all died in a week. My flower setup is way blue heavy, and I got 2 coral waves.
I think the coral waves make the buds frosty. I love the frosty buds.
Alter you have some reail frosty buds, be shure to post pics when you cut that down.
I think my plants mature faster under T5 with the coral waves, and I get some funny grow spurts like was posted earlyer.
This thred is now to big for the naysayers to ignor.
 

polyarcturus

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so here my theory when you overdrive a bulb it shifts the spectrum to the red, could i overdrive my programmed t5 ballasts with the addition of 40w from a t12 programed ballast (95w total basically vho) and run some "redder" bulbs overdrived in the mix with my regular wattage atinics and blues. seems simple enough i am about to give this a go here in a sec. this would be the best way to get the most out af your fixture for flowering, the same result could be achieved by simply changing the t5ho ballast with a t5vho ballast but still running a 54w "redder bulb". but t12 mod is much cheaper and i have the parts and can sacrifice one of my crap bulbs will let you guy know if it lights and how it acts after a 24 hour burn, and also how the temps act wont benefit me but it seems like it could very useful to you guys
 

AltarNation

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Hey guys, little update on 660nm bulbs: cjd disappeared, he was supposed to contact me monday, so I guess I am not getting bulbs through him. I'm back to contacting Jeff at UVL directly for some. I am hoping he still has a few.

Hellolights, here I come!

Edit: Bah, it's only 25% of a handful of items. Nothing that interests me.
 

Lucius Vorenus

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Day 25

nutes: Maxibloom -Cal Mag - Roots Excel

Lights- T5 3 various mixtures of bulbs. The one doing the best thusfar is just 3000k bloom bulbs mixed with Flora Suns

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Undercover Cop

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so here my theory when you overdrive a bulb it shifts the spectrum to the red, could i overdrive my programmed t5 ballasts with the addition of 40w from a t12 programed ballast (95w total basically vho) and run some "redder" bulbs overdrived in the mix with my regular wattage atinics and blues. seems simple enough i am about to give this a go here in a sec. this would be the best way to get the most out af your fixture for flowering, the same result could be achieved by simply changing the t5ho ballast with a t5vho ballast but still running a 54w "redder bulb". but t12 mod is much cheaper and i have the parts and can sacrifice one of my crap bulbs will let you guy know if it lights and how it acts after a 24 hour burn, and also how the temps act wont benefit me but it seems like it could very useful to you guys
redder bulb? Just get some florasuns and be happy. 8$ea
Seems abit much to me, you realize you'd need vho tubes if youre trying to make your ballast push over the rated 54w. You can run a vho bulb in an HO ballast, but not an HO tube in a VHO ballast... Bulb will go.
 

pedro420

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I would like to get my hands on a few 660 bulbs or atleast some red suns
I've been waiting for uvl bulbs to come out sand searching for the red suns all I could find at marine depot was the vho bulb does nebody know of a place with the reg ho bulbs
 
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