Mandatory Black Boxes in cars is just about here. Thanks Harry Reid & Barbara Boxer

Winter Woman

Well-Known Member
[h=1]This bill will allow them to cancel your passport if you owe the IRS money. How does that relate to cars? Don't you just love these freedom loving Senators?


Mandatory ‘Big Brother’ Black Boxes In All New Cars From 2015
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Provision is part of controversial MAP-21 bill expected to pass House
Paul Joseph Watson
Infowars.com
Wednesday, April 18, 2012


A bill already passed by the Senate and set to be rubber stamped by the House would make it mandatory for all new cars in the United States to be fitted with black box data recorders from 2015 onwards.

Section 31406 of Senate Bill 1813 (known as MAP-21), calls for “Mandatory Event Data Recorders” to be installed in all new automobiles and legislates for civil penalties to be imposed against individuals for failing to do so.

“Not later than 180 days after the date of enactment of this Act, the Secretary shall revise part 563 of title 49, Code of Federal Regulations, to require, beginning with model year 2015, that new passenger motor vehicles sold in the United States be equipped with an event data recorder that meets the requirements under that part,” states the bill.​
Although the text of legislation states that such data would remain the property of the owner of the vehicle, the government would have the power to access it in a number of circumstances, including by court order, if the owner consents to make it available, and pursuant to an investigation or inspection conducted by the Secretary of Transportation.

Given the innumerable examples of both government and industry illegally using supposedly privacy-protected information to spy on individuals, this represents the slippery slope to total Big Brother surveillance of every American’s transport habits and location data.

The legislation, which has been given the Orwellian title ‘Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act’, sailed through the Senate after being heavily promoted by Democrats Harry Reid and Barbara Boxer and is also expected to pass the Republican-controlled House.

Given the fact that the same bill also includes a controversial provision that would empower the IRS to revoke passports of citizens merely accused of owing over $50,000 in back taxes, stripping them of their mobility rights, could the mandatory black boxes or a similar technology be used for the same purpose?

Biometric face-recognition and transdermol sensor technology that prevents an inebriated person from driving a car by disabling the automobile has already been developed, in addition to systems that refuse to allow the vehicle to start if the driver is deemed to be overtired.

The ultimate Big Brother scenario would be a system whereby every driver had to get de facto permission from the state to drive each time they get behind the wheel, once it had been determined from an iris scan that they were good citizens who have paid all their taxes and not misbehaved.

The push to pressure car manufacturers to install black box tracking devices in all new cars has been ongoing for over a decade. In 2006, National Highway Traffic Safety Administration encouraged but did not require automobile manufacturers to install the systems.

However, in February last year NHTSA administrator David Strickland said the government was considering making the technology mandatory in the wake of recalls of millions of Toyota vehicles.

Earlier this year it was reported that the NHTSA would soon formally announce that all new cars would be mandated to have the devices fitted by law, which has now been codified into the MAP-21 bill.​
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Mickey O'Neil

Active Member
However, in February last year NHTSA administrator David Strickland said the government was considering making the technology mandatory in the wake of recalls of millions of Toyota vehicles.
What does the recall of Toyotas have to do with spying on our transportation habits? Damn you, Toyota!
 

Moses Mobetta

Well-Known Member
Dont worry, just another one of those thing the government does. No one really wants to infringe on your right or take away your freedoms, these things just happen in free societies comrades.
 

Fungus Gnat

Well-Known Member
Are all worried that it's going to record how fast you were really going when you plough through the kids waiting for the bus at 6am?

I know paranoia runs deep here, but this technology could clear people of wrongdoing as well.

As to them seizing your passport would that even stand as constitutional? They would essentially say travel is a privilege not a right and that it can be taken away for torts not just high crimes.
 

Winter Woman

Well-Known Member
Are all worried that it's going to record how fast you were really going when you plough through the kids waiting for the bus at 6am?

I know paranoia runs deep here, but this technology could clear people of wrongdoing as well.

As to them seizing your passport would that even stand as constitutional? They would essentially say travel is a privilege not a right and that it can be taken away for torts not just high crimes.
When they attach the information from the Black Box to OnStar then they will have everything they need to know.

The seizing of passports is a scary thing to even consider. What's next travel passes so you can go to a differernt state?
 

Josh3235

Well-Known Member
Are all worried that it's going to record how fast you were really going when you plough through the kids waiting for the bus at 6am?

I know paranoia runs deep here, but this technology could clear people of wrongdoing as well.

As to them seizing your passport would that even stand as constitutional? They would essentially say travel is a privilege not a right and that it can be taken away for torts not just high crimes.
Yeah, but it's going to do more bad then good. They just want to be in control of how people drive and who should drive. It's really all about controlling us. They're just using other dumb excuses.
 

Winter Woman

Well-Known Member
Yeah, I think it's you. Everyone knows black is the lack of color, especially CN.

What's funny is you calling CN ignorant. You obviously don't know him very well.

His is always funny and 'rectilinear containers' was funny as all get out to me.
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
is it just me, or is it funny to point out that calling black a color is ignorant?
It's my way of poking fun at the largely successful crusade to turn "black" into an impolite term. The crusaders are pushing, among other choice bits of word Cuisinart, the phrase "people of color" in place of the rather handier "black".
Fwiw ... Wikipedia describes black as a color. cn
 

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
wasnt calling him ignorant. Hes quite articulate, "of color" is an expression. A lot of people really think black is a color, and I think thats just ignorant.
OK; I'll admit ignorance. Why would black not be a color, esp. in ordinary usage? cn
 
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