trayvan martin

UncleBuck

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doc111 said:
If the prosecution freely admits they don't know who attacked who, then doesn't that just dip their entire case in reasonable doubt?
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not if they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that zimmerman wasn't screaming for 45 seconds before a gun shot killed martin.
 
UncleBuck

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NoDrama said:
Avenue of escape? Zimmerman didn't need to use any avenue of escape, that is what the whole SYG law is all about.
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not when you are the aggressor, as zimmerman clearly was by his own admission on recorded tape.

you don't stand your ground by following someone.
 
londonfog

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doc111 said:
Right, but look at the definition of stalking. Keywords "intentionally and repeatedly". His actions may have been intentional, but they weren't repeated. Stalking laws are mainly for creepers who don't want to let go of an ex or psychos obsessed with a celebrity. Stalking would most likely not apply here. Harassment might.
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You do realize this conversation was do to my reply to Nodrama who stated
NoDrama said:
Is there a law in Florida which makes it a crime to follow a person and ask questions? No? Then SYG applies.
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and my answer to this was yes harrasment and stalking.
 
doc111

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UncleBuck said:
not if they can prove beyond a reasonable doubt that zimmerman wasn't screaming for 45 seconds before a gun shot killed martin.
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The screaming doesn't really prove anything. The defense will surely have an explanation for this.
 
Samwell Seed Well

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Mindmelted said:
And all trayvon had to do was say i am going to such and such address to my dads house.

That would have been the end of that story.
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and thats probably close to the truth . . . .martin may have been instructed to wait for the po po if such amicable dialoge had started . . . .and martin is now dead for his possible choice of words . . .. . . so the other confused and more thank likely also angry individual should also have to see some form of punishment .. . .dont worry Zimmerman wont get shot or killed and will probably get off with a light sentence if he is convicted of anything
 
doc111

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londonfog said:
You do realize this conversation was do to my reply to Nodrama who stated and my answer to this was yes harrasment and stalking.
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Uh, yeah, I can read. ;-) I was simply correcting your statement that stalking wouldn't apply but that harassment MIGHT. Continue.:blsmoke:
 
UncleBuck

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doc111 said:
Right, but look at the definition of stalking. Keywords "intentionally and repeatedly". His actions may have been intentional, but they weren't repeated.
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wrong, zimm did follow martin repeatedly. first he followed him while on the phone with 911. he followed him again to behind the houses. he claims he was looking for an address behind the houses, but that's not where the addresses are. the addresses are in front of the houses.

zimm harassed and stalked a kid with his gun handy.
 
doc111

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UncleBuck said:
wrong, zimm did follow martin repeatedly. first he followed him while on the phone with 911. he followed him again to behind the houses. he claims he was looking for an address behind the houses, but that's not where the addresses are. the addresses are in front of the houses.

zimm harassed and stalked a kid with his gun handy.
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lol!:roll:

You REALLY should get with the prosecution. They are looking for all the eyewitnesses and people with inside information they can get!
 
londonfog

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I'm really having a hard time understanding people that think its right for someone to kill another human like this.
 
UncleBuck

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doc111 said:
The screaming doesn't really prove anything. The defense will surely have an explanation for this.
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the screaming proves zimmerman's story to be a complete fabrication if they can show it wasn't from him, and they have tipped their hat that it will be a part of their case. they had the FBI analyze the screams, and they tipped their hat about this at the bail hearing.

zimmerman was intent on not letting "these assholes always get away". he found martin again after losing him, chased him, and had martin pinned at gunpoint after taking a hit or two. martin was screaming for his life looking down the barrel of zimm's replacement penis. then zimmerman shot, he wasn't thinking clearly. zimm was in a state of mental overload. he even jumped onto the kid with the bullet in his chest right after and straddled him thinking the dead corpse was still a threat.

zimm gonna sit in jail for a long time.
 
UncleBuck

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doc111 said:
lol!:roll:

You REALLY should get with the prosecution. They are looking for all the eyewitnesses and people with inside information they can get!
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so, on the 911 tape, we hear zimmerman say he followed martin, but lost him.

then, we have an eyewitness describe a chase at a later time.

then, we have zimmerman out behind the houses supposedly "looking for an address". lol, yeah right. you don't look for addresses back there, that's where you chase assholes that get away.

if zimm only followed martin once, martin would be eating skittles at 7:30, not dead in the grass.

use your brain, doc.
 
londonfog

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How was this guy able to own and carry a gun ( let alone CCW) ???? WTF everyone is not equipped ( mental) nor ready to be a gun owner
 
londonfog

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UncleBuck said:
so, on the 911 tape, we hear zimmerman say he followed martin, but lost him.

then, we have an eyewitness describe a chase at a later time.

then, we have zimmerman out behind the houses supposedly "looking for an address". lol, yeah right. you don't look for addresses back there, that's where you chase assholes that get away.

if zimm only followed martin once, martin would be eating skittles at 7:30, not dead in the grass.

use your brain, doc.
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my point to not understanding some who defend this creep.
 
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