Thank you MurshDawg, your brevity and concise reply is much appreciated and exactly what I was looking for. Thank you.
LED Without LEDs -My First T5 Grow
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Thank you PetFlora, your helpful reply is greatly appreciated. Cheers!
polyarcturus
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wasnt really trying to be condescending... i was just stating that we had just went over the basics. im a newb at this too so dont worry i did the same thing when i came in,started asking newb questions, so feel free to ask IMO (others dont like to go back over the basics) i think its always good to understand others variables. others think it is disrespectful when the info is just a click away.... really if you want to know your stuff your gonna have to make your own call tho this what they kinda pointed out to me. everybody gave me different advice but it really depends on the spectrum you are trying to achieve. so when it came down to it after much advice i made my own calls on bulbs from my own research. there really is no basic PAR t5 light bulb setup, just a bunch of bulbs that preform better than others.
here are some photos of MYLADY [1 plant] that only saw T5HO light & got fed LUCAS 1micro/2bloom, kept @ 980 in a waterfarm with only an airstone added.
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jsamuel24
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Looking awsome +1 to you keep up the good t5 goodness!
ddmreinno1
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I have not read every page, I have found in my research that the portions of bluelight produed around 420nm have a direct relationship to how much thc you plant produces. Therefore the more blue light the more thc that is why the bulbs work good throughout the entire life cycle. I don't know if it was mentioned uva bulb from the black light range/area promote reds blues and purples to become more prominent.
used 2 fixtures @ 45degree angles for both, but in veg started out with the 4 outer bulbs of each fixture illuminated & then added in the 4 centre ones after a couple of weeks.
Flower was with all lamps illuminated most of the time [i would occasionally switch off the centre4 lamps to emulate a cloudy day when giving her some foliar spray -rain
]t5ho 8-lamp:veg> 6500k/420-460actnic/tropical wave/4100k/5000k/tropical wave/420-460actnic/6500k
t5ho 8-lamp:flower> 3000k/coral wave/redsun/tropical wave/roseate/redsun/coral wave/3000k
I HAD BEEN TOLD THAT ONE SHOULD NEVER PUT PAR T5 LAMPS IN THE OUTERMOST LOCATIONS WITHIN THE FIXTURE WHICH IS WHY BOTH CONFIGURATIONS ARE BRACKETED IN EITHER 6500K OR 3000K LAMPS
NO SPECIAL NUTES - LUCAS FORMULA FEED KEEPING PPMS AROUND 980
NO ADVANCED VENTILATION
polyarcturus
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i have to agree its poinless to put specialty bulbs on the edge becuase the plants are centered under the light that means the best way to ensure all the light is used is by plaincing the best bulbs in the center. really you should put your most powerful or out of spectrum bulbs at the edge where the most light is lost.
i put my 1000k on the edges or 6500ks as they put out the most lumens IMO
i put my 1000k on the edges or 6500ks as they put out the most lumens IMO
WELL MYLADY DOES NOT HAVE THE FIXTURE
BlueB
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Hydro stores are good at selling only one thing, hot air.
BlueB
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LOL, exactly
BlueB
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Because you are using floro's. Plants don't grow very fast under weak light sources. Try your bulbs in a VHO fixture and you will see a difference. Be prepared to buy new lights in half the time.
BlueB
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LMFAO @ Fiji Purple graph, it's a 460nm ATI Blue Plus with a 5% 610nm spike of orange. It's a great expensive bulb, but why not stick with ATI or UVLI have a reply from Jeff.
X,
As I never want to question a companies integrity and want to believe that they are being truthful with the information they are providing...I also know that most T5 companies utilize a third party manufacture. UV Lighting uses a inter source company to produce our lamps but, the difference is that we own the blends, name and rights to everything that we sell under our name. That being said...I'm not sure who is producing the Figi Purple lamps and it seems a little strange that they are unwilling to release a spectral graph to their product. I can have the lamp spec graphed, but we do not make it a policy to purchase a competitor's product and run test on them. If you or your community can provide me with one I will send it in for testing. Attached is other spectral graphs to lamps we produce. Pay attention to the 75.25 lamp graph. When comparing apples to apples the Figi Purple looks very close to our 75.25 in color, or so I've been told. Our 75.25 is made up of 75% 420nm and 25% triband RGB mix.
Regards,
Jeff Saghy
UV Lighting Co.
jeff@uvlco.com
My reply was this:
Jeff,
The problem is that KZ isnt providing any information. I agree that it is strange that they wouldnt, but they arent providing any specifics other than a vague phosphor description which isnt very helpful.
And even stranger thing is the website where We got this graph doesnt have a source for their information and has no contact information. Upon examination of the source code of the website and metadata of the picture itself, the picture is titled Geisemann fiji purple, yet they dont own the rights to that lamp. Weird.
I understand its not your policy to acquire lamps from other manufacturers and compare data but we do sincerely appreciate your willingness to run the test and share the results. This will help all of us immensely with future purchasing decisions.
Ill speak with the guys within the community and get a lamp shipped to you. Ill provide details on that and should hopefully have one to you by next week.
Thanks a lot Jeff, its always a pleasure working with you
Regards,
X
I checked my small collection of spare lamps and I dont have any fijis laying around. Anyone willing to step up to the plate?
Edit: for the sake of science I will replace one of the fijis in my grosite and replace it with a 3000k. If it really is around a 75% 420nm phosphor then i have way too much blue as it is. However, im too damn poor to purchase the packaging and pay to have it shipped. I will sacrifice the lamp if others are willing to help cover the cost of shipping and packaging. What do you guys think?
polyarcturus
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who? what? why? when? where? how? first off blue b who the hell are you? why are you here? whats you beef?
this thread is pretty informative, but long and length isnt really necessary and needs to be reduced but that not the point this is more a chill room for us PAR T5 growers outside the club that go off the topic.
i dont know what happened to profeesuer but this is his thread dont be disrespectful. adn also stop cluttering this thread with non growing related shit if you want to talk shit start a thread and do it there.
this thread is pretty informative, but long and length isnt really necessary and needs to be reduced but that not the point this is more a chill room for us PAR T5 growers outside the club that go off the topic.
i dont know what happened to profeesuer but this is his thread dont be disrespectful. adn also stop cluttering this thread with non growing related shit if you want to talk shit start a thread and do it there.
BlueB
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FloraSuns are the only way to grow, not sure why anyone would waste the time or money with anything else.Hey all!
I thought I'd pop back in and show some shots from my first all-T5 grow. I'm glad to see everyone getting such good use out of the Flora Suns. This thread has come a long way from freaking out over a little green spike.
I'm not on here very often but I've seen a lot of really impressive pictures in recent months. Kudos! Here are my girls at 43 days of 12/12...
This is a quick, fill-in crop for me, to keep things perpetual. The 4 Northern Lights x Haze (mine are an indica expression, growth-wise) got 19 days of veg and were topped, and the White Widow just 17 days. The NLxHaze are showing a Potassium deficiency, I believe, that I have not been able to correct, but are also super-icey. The White Widow (which goes about 70 days) is a beauty...
I prefer at this point to flower bigger plants without a bunch of training, and will probably focus more on LED lighting for that. I would like to start SCROGing with some strains, however, and will definitely come back to T5s for that purpose.
BlueB
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The UltraGrowths are NOT coming out in the USA. Spoke personally with the US rep out in California and they are only being released overseas for certain types of bird cages. 660nm is bad for aquariums so there is no use for it there. They won't be releasing them here.I cant wait for the ultra grow lamps to come out. I wouldnt mind paying $20 for those but I hope theyll be cheaper
Ive got trich heads forming all over the place on my sativas, looking real good xD
UCC, you have a LOT of T5s rolling in your room bro! Nice! Im a get a bunch of those T8 fixtures from walmart and use em for side lighting. Better light spread than the Radiions youre using I think, just a bigger mess of electrical cords since they cant be daisy chained
BlueB
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They are much nicer than the FloraSuns, and almost identical to Sylvania's Gro-Lux. Order the Gro-Lux from the UK, the shipping isn't that bad if you buy in quantity. All in all the difference is slim and the amount of power coming out of a T5 is minimal considering that most of the juice is going to the blue spectrum, oh well
BlueB
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LOL, again, seriously?