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MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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londonfog said:
ahhh the hit dog hollers .. Why you such a better man. Does it have to do with Obama ???
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What could it possibly have to do with an abject failure of a President that is about to have the door hit him on the ass on the way out? You argue like a halfwit.
 
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redivider

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Illegal Smile said:
I don't see how anyone with a straight face can say this case hasn't been loaded with race from the start. Immediately it was "oh boy, we have a white shoots black story, oh boy oh boy oh boy!!!! So from then on the liberal media portrayed it that was, in contradiction to all evidence, and they do so still today. Remember - the goal of librulism is always to convince you of something that isn't true or isn't real.

Attempt to school redivider: The difference between follow and chase is this - chase implies an intent to catch, follow does not and means monitor or be lead. But it doesn't matter, because chasing someone does not mean you forfeit your right to self defense. The libruls are UNWILLING to accept that fact. Remember what I told you about what isn't true and libruls?
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funny you bring it up.

on the phone call he mentions martin is 'running', as in running away. and he also mentions 'these assholes always get away'.

funny how when he's ready to hang up the phone he tells the guy 'tell them to call me' because he doesn't know where he's going, because he's about to embark on a CHASE, he has no plans on waiting for the cops, he's going on this chase whether the cops like it or not........
 
londonfog

londonfog

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redivider said:
funny you bring it up.

on the phone call he mentions martin is 'running', as in running away. and he also mentions 'these assholes always get away'.

funny how when he's ready to hang up the phone he tells the guy 'tell them to call me' because he doesn't know where he's going, because he's about to embark on a CHASE, he has no plans on waiting for the cops, he's going on this chase whether the cops like it or not........
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little things like this is going to eat him up in court..I have a little detail ( that I'm keeping to myself ) thats going to hang Zimmerman if the prosecutor does a detailed job (which I'm sure she will)
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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redivider said:
funny you bring it up.

on the phone call he mentions martin is 'running', as in running away. and he also mentions 'these assholes always get away'.

funny how when he's ready to hang up the phone he tells the guy 'tell them to call me' because he doesn't know where he's going, because he's about to embark on a CHASE, he has no plans on waiting for the cops, he's going on this chase whether the cops like it or not........
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Unless he's simply repositioning himself so he can continue to observe Martin until the police arrive. That is just as plausible...and legal.
 
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NoDrama

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redivider said:
funny you bring it up.

on the phone call he mentions martin is 'running', as in running away. and he also mentions 'these assholes always get away'.

funny how when he's ready to hang up the phone he tells the guy 'tell them to call me' because he doesn't know where he's going, because he's about to embark on a CHASE, he has no plans on waiting for the cops, he's going on this chase whether the cops like it or not........
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Either that or he doesn't know what numbers are on the houses 500 feet away. in the rain. during the evening.
 
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redivider

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if he was just observing, from a distance, like a biologist observing nature, not disturbing... he would've observed marting go home... but no. he already knew this kid was up to no good... probably high... walking around with shit in his waistband.... he had to do something.....

there's no self defense here... the claim is just absurd....
 
londonfog

londonfog

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NoDrama said:
Exactly what it is, I especially love the part where he accuses anyone of defending Zimmerman as having all of Zimmerman's qualities. That speaks volumes for the mindset.
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Do you have a "Zimmerman" in you..are you a wife beating drunk ??? Do you have a job ??? Are you insecure ??? Never-mind don't answer..we already know.
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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redivider said:
only problem is that when asked "are you following him" he responds "yes".

so no. not plausible.
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How is that not plausible. If you're observing someone and they move, you have to move as well to continue observing them. Following for the purpose of observing someone is crucial to the success of the endeavor. You wouldn't be very effective as an "observer" if you gave up the moment they moved, would you?
 
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redivider

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NoDrama said:
and then the dispatcher responds that "We don't need you to do that" after which Zimm says "OK" as an affirmation.
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i guess zimmerman just teleported and blacked out, woke up under martin beating his ass... then had to shoot him... right??

he didn't intentionally go after this kid with the intention of being some sort of fucked up hero.... that shit just happened to him.... lol
 
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redivider

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MuyLocoNC said:
How is that not plausible. If you're observing someone and they move, you have to move as well to continue observing them. Following for the purpose of observing someone is crucial to the success of the endeavor. You wouldn't be very effective as an "observer" if you gave up the moment they moved, would you?
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you would suck as an observer if the thing you are observing is disturbed, maybe killed, by you.
 
MuyLocoNC

MuyLocoNC

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redivider said:
i guess zimmerman just teleported and blacked out, woke up under martin beating his ass... then had to shoot him... right??

he didn't intentionally go after this kid with the intention of being some sort of fucked up hero.... that shit just happened to him.... lol
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You're welcome to your opinion, but it's pure conjecture. There is nothing we've seen introduced so far that proves Zimmerman did anything but follow and observe without any intention of confronting him. He has a history of that exact action. Isn't it at least somewhat conceivable to you that Martin did attack him? In the phone call, Martin's girlfriend says he spoke to Zimmerman first, which certainly is consistent with him approaching Zimmerman. Not saying it happened that way, but it's certainly possible.
 
londonfog

londonfog

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MuyLocoNC said:
You're welcome to your opinion, but it's pure conjecture. There is nothing we've seen introduced so far that proves Zimmerman did anything but follow and observe without any intention of confronting him. He has a history of that exact action. Isn't it at least somewhat conceivable to you that Martin did attack him? In the phone call, Martin's girlfriend says he spoke to Zimmerman first, which certainly is consistent with him approaching Zimmerman. Not saying it happened that way, but it's certainly possible.
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We don't need you to do that
 
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