Fedral judge lol's at Obama Florida voter purge is legal

[UncleBuck]

Did you like the video bucky?

i don't humor anyone who is not intelligent enough to use their words during an actual debate.

 

[UncleBuck]

So people can just raid the mailboxes and submit their votes at the post office drop box. You don't say

and whoever had their mail stolen can report that they never received a ballot and fill out an absentee.

 

[nontheist]

i don't humor anyone who is not intelligent enough to use their words during an actual debate.

I haven't used my words? haha I have proven you wrong in every step. You still want to argue it doesn't happen?

 

[Red1966]

Anyone who cannot afford or cannot obtain supporting documents will not be able to vote. Anyone who cannot get to issuing centers will not be able to vote - like maybe folks in retirement or nursing homes or those who don't have autos - typicaly if one does have a car then they already have sufficient ID. As I said, not everyone is in the same situation, but they are still citizens. The SCOTUS decision which makes this argument moot (I don't recall the name) showed that in the state - Ohio I think, examined, 40,000 people would be disenfranchised. Now the equation is pretty simple, subtract the number of illegal voters who would be kept from voting from the number of legal voters ID requirements would keep from voting, if you get a positive number then you are pretty much fucking democracy in the ass. Repubs have little problem with this sort of thing. I find it highly interesting that on the one case - global warming, conservatives demand positive, irrefutable figures before they will act to prevent, but in the other, Voter ID, they need no proof that even a handful of illegal votes have been cast before they are perfectly willing to be "preemtive".

Who can't obtain ID? You can register and vote by mail. Voter fraud is fucking democracy. Dems have little problem with voter fraud, in fact, they are very good at it. I have seen voter fraud committed with my own eyes, so you're not going to convince me it doesn't happen. You're such a hack.

 

[UncleBuck]

I haven't used my words? haha I have proven you wrong in every step. You still want to argue it doesn't happen?

proven me wrong? we haven't even gotten to step one here: proving there is a problem.

about 110,000,000 million people voted last election, how many cases of voter fraud were there? USE YOUR WORDS.

 

[UncleBuck]

I have seen voter fraud committed with my own eyes, so you're not going to convince me it doesn't happen.

you also claim to work with nobel prize winners, but you can't spell the word "compliment". that's gotta be second grade level. so excuse me if i don't believe your anecdotal claim.

about 110,000,000 people voted last election, how many cases of voter fraud were there?

 

[nontheist]

17,432,455 votes were frauds, prove me wrong......

 

[Red1966]

"I got mine!" now fuck yourself, is the refrain Desert Dude. The fact is that the disadvantaged, the ones most likely to not have "proper" ID also most often vote Dem, the right knows this full well, Paul Weyrick gave a speech in which he laid it out, to paraphrase, he said, our chances of winning go up as voter rolls shrink.

"Disadvantaged" has nothing to do with it. Paul Weyrick is just another partisan hack.

 

[nontheist]

You have two defenses, one the race card the second proof of a subject you can't prove to defend. Your like an old worn out record.

Lets break this down....
I have shown how easy it is....
I have shown evidence of it taking place....

Please show me, where people don't take advantage of it......
Show me something.......

 

[UncleBuck]

17,432,455 votes were frauds, prove me wrong......

spoken like a true 14 year old.

you can't even establish the premise that voting fraud is a problem. what you just did was the equivalent of sticking your fingers in your ears, holding your breath, and yelling.

establish your premise first, kid.

 

[Pipe Dream]

we do voting by mail where i live. that way only residents get ballots and no need to disenfranchise people with no ID, which are statistically more inclined to be minorities who vote democratic, facts show.

the only time in the last year i have used my ID was to renew my MMJ card.

See you have an ID. If you drive a car you need a license. If you want to enjoy an adult movie or beverage, you need an ID.Or to cash a check, use a debit card, or sign the loan agreement on that house you reside in (That's why I had to bust my ass to get an ID the day of my closing cuz I lost mine. That and my MMJ and liquor is the only time I use mine as well). I mean, if you don't have an ID or need to replace your lost one, than your probably not a legal resident of the USA and therefore are not eligible to vote. Just because it supports their agenda (republicans), which would mean you must be a democrat, doesn't make it wrong. It's the right thing to do and I don't even have a side on the political standpoint.

 

[UncleBuck]

"Disadvantaged" has nothing to do with it. Paul Weyrick is just another partisan hack.

disadvantaged has everything to do with it.

how much does an ID cost in your state?

 

[abandonconflict]

 

[UncleBuck]

You have two defenses, one the race card the second proof of a subject you can't prove to defend. Your like an old worn out record.

Lets break this down....
I have shown how easy it is....
I have shown evidence of it taking place....

Please show me, where people don't take advantage of it......
Show me something.......

i never said voting fraud doesn't happen, we have paulbots on this board who advertise that they will be voting three times for the guy in a futile attempt to elect him.

the question is the degree of the problem. so far you have not established that voting fraud is anything more than negligible.

so, 110,000,000 or so votes cast in 2008, how many cases of voter fraud?

 

[RyanTheRhino]

and whoever had their mail stolen can report that they never received a ballot and fill out an absentee.

What if they are registered but forgot or didn't care. What if they are dead would they still revive it. I have never heard of voting through mail. You must live in a very rural place.

 

[kelly4]

I didn't have to show shit last time I voted, was pretty sad if you ask me. They asked me my name, then after scrolling down the paper work asked me to sign and gave me my paperwork.

Same here.

 

[abandonconflict]

Florida should be forced to secede.

 

[UncleBuck]

See you have an ID.

passport. state ID is lost.

If you drive a car you need a license.

have my license number memorized.

If you want to enjoy an adult movie or beverage, you need an ID.

internet does not require an ID, everyone knows me at the grocery store.

Or to cash a check, use a debit card, or sign the loan agreement on that house you reside in (That's why I had to bust my ass to get an ID the day of my closing cuz I lost mine.

no bank accounts here.

That and my MMJ and liquor is the only time I use mine as well). I mean, if you don't have an ID or need to replace your lost one, than your probably not a legal resident of the USA and therefore are not eligible to vote. Just because it supports their agenda (republicans), which would mean you must be a democrat, doesn't make it wrong. It's the right thing to do and I don't even have a side on the political standpoint.

asking for ID to vote when an ID costs money is a poll tax. those are illegal, unconstitutional even.

proof of residence should be sufficient.

 

[nontheist]

i never said voting fraud doesn't happen, we have paulbots on this board who advertise that they will be voting three times for the guy in a futile attempt to elect him.

the question is the degree of the problem. so far you have not established that voting fraud is anything more than negligible.

so, 110,000,000 or so votes cast in 2008, how many cases of voter fraud?

That's all I needed, you admit it happens, so should we let this illegal activity take place? Absolutely not I don't care if only 3 people do it time to lock it down, no reason not to right?

 

[UncleBuck]

What if they are registered but forgot or didn't care. What if they are dead would they still revive it. I have never heard of voting through mail. You must live in a very rural place.

portland oregon is not rural.