Chick-Fil-A

[DonPepe]

I would prefer he was honest and admit that he's a bigot. Seems simple enough, right?

FYI: You don't know people that "became gay". That's fucking laughable. You may know people that finally admitted they're gay, or stopped suppressing their homosexual feelings, but nobody is first heterosexual and then "becomes gay".

I think this statement lets everyone else see my point, you even have the nerve to try to tell a gay guy how to be gay correctly.

And i think you missed the point of his post, he was informing you that he was not in fact a bigot, yet you continue to display all the characteristics of a bigot in your posts......

from Wikipedia:

Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance".

 

[cannabineer]

He's just angry that I caught him biting a random butt.

You refer to humans as their classification yet if you look at the earth as the host organism, then the term parasite applies in full.

The garbage islands are real, any internet search can prove this and yes their full of toxicity and non bio-degradeables. The pacific island is only one example and many more exist.

I can't truly call myself an ecologist or even a scientist because I don't have those lovely letters after my name. When I finally get them (and i'm in the process currently) I absolutely refuse to write like one. I feel there's little need to all the wordiness especially when there are much simpler ways of putting things. I write fact in layman so even the most medicated person can understand the gist. If you want to grab the nit comb and go over my words I will make special attempt to provide links to all that I say for references.

But describing a planetary surface as an organism is the severe misuse of metaphor (most famously Lovelock's Gaia) as fact. You can't DO that. Your proclamation of a populist style of prose does not excuse you from your basic obligation to stick with real facts, not convenient constructs.
Also, the letters after the name do not a scientist make, so there goes that straw man. No, a scientist is marked above all by honesty, and championing an ideology built on unscientific ground is the disqualifier, not an absence of credential. cn

 

[Kalebaiden]

How can you not refer to the planet as an organism?

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Since my next questions are of absolutely no relevance to this thread and I would like to continue this discussion can we start a new thread or continue this via messaging?

 

[ru4r34l]

How can you not refer to the planet as an organism?

Ha you said REEFER

regards,

 

[st0wandgrow]

I think this statement lets everyone else see my point, you even have the nerve to try to tell a gay guy how to be gay correctly.

And i think you missed the point of his post, he was informing you that he was not in fact a bigot, yet you continue to display all the characteristics of a bigot in your posts......

from Wikipedia:

Bigotry is the state of mind of a bigot, defined by Merriam-Webster as "a person obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance".

Listen pepe, there are a couple possibilities here, but your buddy "turning gay" isn't one of them.

You either made up some fictional friend to try and prove a point, or your buddy wasn't being honest with himself or you. Either way, you aren't going to convince anyone of this nonsense. Sexual preference isn't decided upon. It's as much a part of you as the color of your eyes. To suggest otherwise is breathtakingly stupid. What you suggest is that sexual preference is learned behavior. I'll assume that you are attracted to women. Do you feel that with enough therapy we could turn you in to a cock loving gay man? If your answer is anything other than the affirmative, then you've proven my point.

And if someone ISN'T a bigot, or racist, or homophobe, there is no need to make a proclamation before saying what you need to say. By prefacing the comment with "I'm no bigot, BUT ...." you're basically letting everyone know that you are in fact what you're claiming not to be.

 

[st0wandgrow]

Did you even read his post, Pepe??

He tells us TWICE that "he's the last person to judge people", and that he's "VERY open minded" ..... and then goes on to say that the gay lifestyle is "fucked up on so many levels".

Is English your second language?

 

[Kalebaiden]

st0.....you just gave me man wood over your thoughts. I'm not gay but can I do sexual things with your man bits?

Oh wait, I think I am gay. (checks with gay porn)

...Yup, I'm a lover of the cawk.

Like you said, gay is not a choice. Using myself as an example, I could say that being gay was because I went through trauma or some other environmental condition but I knew I was different since forever.
At first I thought I'd grow wings by age 6, next I thought I could be the next gold medalist in track. all of it was me trying to believe that I wasn't gay because of how gay people were treated. No one chooses a life of hardship knowing full well that life will be difficult and no parent wants their child to have a difficult life. the truth is I've always known I was gay, I called it many things but it all came down to a fact. that fact was that I was attracted to men on more than a friendship level.

In keeping with the topic of this thread, I may not agree with the publicity that Chik-fil-a received or the owners opinion on the topic of gay marriage. I do think that with the currant changing times that labels placed on society and the abuse that comes with them should be avoided at all costs. I feel that the owners opinions should have remained personal and would continue to believe that even if the owner was for gay marriage. He is a business person and in business your personal opinions should remain personal unless directly impacting the business.

Side note: I always read Chic-fil-a as Chick-fill-ah and think it's a store for pimps.

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Looks like the folks in my neck of the woods really like chick-Fil-A. Yesterday was chick-fil-a
Appreciation day. This was in response to the statment made by the president of the company who spoke out againist gay marriage .....
whats next I'm hearing is a kiss in.
What ever happened to if you dont agree with a business practice or policy you just didnt spend money there....after all isnt that what drives a business

This whole brouhaha is blown way out of proportion because what the dude actually said was not all that provocative.

Here is the quote:

Some have opposed the company's support of the traditional family. "Well, guilty as charged," said Cathy when asked about the company's position.

"We are very much supportive of the family -- the biblical definition of the family unit. We are a family-owned business, a family-led business, and we are married to our first wives. We give God thanks for that.

Heaven's to Mergatroid! Somebody get a rope!

Many people support the traditional family. It is not a crime.

And unless Chick Fill A official policy discriminates against homosexuals in any way (it does not), this really has nothing to do with the company.

Here is the link to the original story which caused the uproar. http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=38271

 

[cannabineer]

st0.....you just gave me man wood over your thoughts. I'm not gay but can I do sexual things with your man bits?

Oh wait, I think I am gay. (checks with gay porn)

...Yup, I'm a lover of the cawk.

Like you said, gay is not a choice. Using myself as an example, I could say that being gay was because I went through trauma or some other environmental condition but I knew I was different since forever.
At first I thought I'd grow wings by age 6, next I thought I could be the next gold medalist in track. all of it was me trying to believe that I wasn't gay because of how gay people were treated. No one chooses a life of hardship knowing full well that life will be difficult and no parent wants their child to have a difficult life. the truth is I've always known I was gay, I called it many things but it all came down to a fact. that fact was that I was attracted to men on more than a friendship level.

In keeping with the topic of this thread, I may not agree with the publicity that Chik-fil-a received or the owners opinion on the topic of gay marriage. I do think that with the currant changing times that labels placed on society and the abuse that comes with them should be avoided at all costs. I feel that the owners opinions should have remained personal and would continue to believe that even if the owner was for gay marriage. He is a business person and in business your personal opinions should remain personal unless directly impacting the business.

Side note: I always read Chic-fil-a as Chick-fill-ah and think it's a store for pimps.

And I am irresistibly drawn to the implied homoeros of Cock-fil-A. It spices the dish, no? cn

 

[Padawanbater2]

This whole brouhaha is blown way out of proportion because what the dude actually said was not all that provocative.

Here is the quote:

Heven's to Mergatroid! Somebody get a rope!

Many people support the traditional family. It is not a crime.

And unless Chick Fill A official policy discriminates against homosexuals in any way (it does not), this really has nothing to do with the company.

Here is the link to the original story which caused the uproar. http://www.bpnews.net/BPnews.asp?ID=38271

Has that company used any money to promote the religious view of the "traditional family", or is it just an opinion?

By that I mean campaign contributions to public officials who oppose gay rights, contributions to causes like prop 8, that type of stuff..

 

[Johnnyorganic]

Has that company used any money to promote the religious view of the "traditional family", or is it just an opinion?

By that I mean campaign contributions to public officials who oppose gay rights, contributions to causes like prop 8, that type of stuff..

I can't answer that because I have no idea.

But even if that's true, and I am not saying it is; it's a privately-held company.

From reading the article, I got the impression that the company is family-friendly insofar as its employees are concerned. What other fast food joint is closed on Sundays?

So to those offended, don't eat there. Problem solved.

 

[Total Head]

How can you not refer to the planet as an organism?

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Since my next questions are of absolutely no relevance to this thread and I would like to continue this discussion can we start a new thread or continue this via messaging?

i would actually like someone to elaborate more on this (if there is a discussion elsewhere on the site i'll go there). the plain ol' dictionary (not a scientific dictionary) defines an organism as "a form of life composed of mutually interdependent parts that maintain various vital processes." i'm not sciency enough to understand the meat and potatoes of the comparison, but i've always considered the earth to be (at the very least metaphorically) an organism, relying on the overall health of oceans, forests, ecosystems, etc. in order to keep on going.

furthermore, i would compare humans not to parasites, but to a virus. we keep multiplying and suck what we can from the host until the host dies or we kill ourselves off. it reminds me of a famous stoned moment i had when i was about 16. without giving a long story that would make 16 year old me look like a complete burnout, the moment ended with me saying, "dude, i just killed AIDS."

 

[cannabineer]

i would actually like someone to elaborate more on this (if there is a discussion elsewhere on the site i'll go there). the plain ol' dictionary (not a scientific dictionary) defines an organism as "a form of life composed of mutually interdependent parts that maintain various vital processes." i'm not sciency enough to understand the meat and potatoes of the comparison, but i've always considered the earth to be (at the very least metaphorically) an organism, relying on the overall health of oceans, forests, ecosystems, etc. in order to keep on going.

furthermore, i would compare humans not to parasites, but to a virus. we keep multiplying and suck what we can from the host until the host dies or we kill ourselves off. it reminds me of a famous stoned moment i had when i was about 16. without giving a long story that would make 16 year old me look like a complete burnout, the moment ended with me saying, "dude, i just killed AIDS."

From a biological perspective I consider definition 2 on dictionary.com to be more applicable:

a

form of life considered as an entity; an animal, plant, fungus, protistan, or moneran.

By this definition, an ant colony or beehive is no longer a unit organism. An ecosystem is a looser assemblage than a monospecific (composed of elements from a single species) superorganism.

I see danger in treating the metaphoric organism of the terrestrial biome (total ecology) as an organism using the biological definition. As metaphor, it is beautiful and it resonates with our innate human sense of spirit ... but from a purely scientific perspective "we can't go there" at this time. It leads to misapperceptions of the nature of nature and our place in it. Jmo. cn

<edit> dang, it inserts a "quote" "/quote" and won't let me fix it. And the accursed "captcha".

 

[Total Head]

stop the thread how and where in scotland can i get them rianbow oreos

i am so very sorry to have to tell you this, but they never did make actual rainbow oreos for sale. it was just something they posted on their facebook page, apparently in support of an upcoming (at the time) pride event. it stirred up almost as big a shitstorm as the chick-fil-a thing.

this was what they posted:

 

[Total Head]

From a biological perspective I consider definition 2 on dictionary.com to be more applicable:



By this definition, an ant colony or beehive is no longer a unit organism. An ecosystem is a looser assemblage than a monospecific (composed of elements from a single species) superorganism.

I see danger in treating the metaphoric organism of the terrestrial biome (total ecology) as an organism using the biological definition. As metaphor, it is beautiful and it resonates with our innate human sense of spirit ... but from a purely scientific perspective "we can't go there" at this time. It leads to misapperceptions of the nature of nature and our place in it. Jmo. cn

<edit> dang, it inserts a "quote" "/quote" and won't let me fix it. And the accursed "captcha".

thank you. that clears things up quite a bit.

my 16 year old self had theorized that much like a virus, the only way to get rid of humans is to get us to kill ourselves off or kill our "host", and if we applied the theory to AIDS we could get rid of it. (get it to kill itself, not kill the human that was infected)

i didn't kill AIDS

 

[cannabineer]

thank you. that clears things up quite a bit.

my 16 year old self had theorized that much like a virus, the only way to get rid of humans is to get us to kill ourselves off or kill our "host", and if we applied the theory to AIDS we could get rid of it. (get it to kill itself, not kill the human that was infected)

i didn't kill AIDS

Viruses are fundamentally different things, and they strain the definition of "alive". Their only access to metabolism, the definitive living process, is from the target cell. Once assembled and before they activate inside a new cell, they don't do anything except get moved around by physical processes.
Not sure I get your point about AIDS. It sounds like your proposed therapy is: kill the host. That can't be it; I must be making some mistake. cn

 

[Padawanbater2]

I can't answer that because I have no idea.

But even if that's true, and I am not saying it is; it's a privately-held company.

From reading the article, I got the impression that the company is family-friendly insofar as its employees are concerned. What other fast food joint is closed on Sundays?

So to those offended, don't eat there. Problem solved.

Would it be the same if instead of homosexuals it was black people, and instead of homosexual marriage it was interracial marriage?

 

[Winter Woman]

i am so very sorry to have to tell you this, but they never did make actual rainbow oreos for sale. it was just something they posted on their facebook page, apparently in support of an upcoming (at the time) pride event. it stirred up almost as big a shitstorm as the chick-fil-a thing.

this was what they posted:

Damn that is so cool.

 

[halfloaf]

i am so very sorry to have to tell you this, but they never did make actual rainbow oreos for sale. it was just something they posted on their facebook page, apparently in support of an upcoming (at the time) pride event. it stirred up almost as big a shitstorm as the chick-fil-a thing.

this was what they posted:

I am sitting hear crying i want my funkin rainbow oreos do you think i could have a case for faulse advertisement.force them to make them have say that if they don't make them they must hate gays.

 

[Total Head]

Viruses are fundamentally different things, and they strain the definition of "alive". Their only access to metabolism, the definitive living process, is from the target cell. Once assembled and before they activate inside a new cell, they don't do anything except get moved around by physical processes.
Not sure I get your point about AIDS. It sounds like your proposed therapy is: kill the host. That can't be it; I must be making some mistake. cn

it was more like, "get the virus to turn on itself and kill itself off", because that's essentially the only way to eradicate humans without first destroying the earth (our means of sustenance). i thought i was a flippin' genius proposing the instigation of a virus war and declared that i had killed AIDS. i REALLY wish i was still able to reach that level of stondedness.