Plant Moisture Stress - Symptoms and Solutions

kinetic

kinetic

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Uncle Ben said:
I don't flush. Organics are made up of inorganic minerals.
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Am I wrong then in thinking you have a very proper cure procedure then?

Edit: I did notice my free 'organic' nutes I received include info on where to find the metallic content of the bottles....
 
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missmaryj10

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Hello Uncle Ben,
I'm a newbie, I was hoping you could take a look at my pics and help me figure out what's going on with a few of them. Dr..jpgphoto.JPG
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bottom purple.jpgtop purple.jpgThese ladies are doing really well and they were before the nutrients were put in at the beginning of last week.
They are 29 days old, from seeds. I only fed them R/O water for the first three weeks and I introduced a half a dose of nutrients last Tuesday. They are all doing much better since then, however I see some are deficient I'm just not sure in what area...
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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kinetic said:
Am I wrong then in thinking you have a very proper cure procedure then?

Edit: I did notice my free 'organic' nutes I received include info on where to find the metallic content of the bottles....
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Curing - dry the son-a-bitch and smoke it.
 
SOG

SOG

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i can tweak my GH line recipe to 3-1-2 with 22M+18B

N290.6
P119.5
K230.2
Mg82.2

TDS@.72248
TDS@.51605
EC/mS3.21
EC/uS3211

its DTW and they are big girls,
i think they can take the high EC
whats your thoughts?
 
caligrowe47

caligrowe47

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so can you help me out here? i watered my plant and went away. Before it was 100% healthy and green, then i came back six days later and turned into yellowish on the leaves and brown spots too. i then gave it flowering nutes. My soil is 5.5 ph level, growing in northern california by the coast. it was overcast 2 days and cloudy the last 6 days now its been cloudy. is it moisture stress or anything like that? root rot signs? btw i sprayed safe soap on it because there were bugs and i went back today and it looked better kinda. i then took the branches and i am bending them (LST) and i clipped off a lot of fan leaves and the yellowing leaves. so anyways i would like your advice on what to do and what the diagnosis is?


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SOG

SOG

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first, this looks like Phosphorus deficiency
second, look up close; something is munching your leaves!
 
caligrowe47

caligrowe47

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yes if you read my post i said i had bugs and that i am using safe soap. btw i have heard Magnesium, Nitrogen a lot, and now a Phopherous deficiency?! thats a lot of maybe's.. can anyone officially know almost for certain?
 
SOG

SOG

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it is very difficult to detriment definitely since we dont know exactly what went down in what order
her lower leaves do signal some sort of N deficiency; this could also happen due to flowering transition with low N reservoirs!
the browning leaves and patches resemble P deficiency, then again we dont have the whole picture
how much was she feed, what regiment, what was she feed, hard or soft water, did you pH before watering etc...
 
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Wordz

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SOG said:
hello Uncle Ben, respects for sharing your knowledge and maintaining this thread
now im not new to growing, but i have an issue i could really use an experts advice with
i have 5 girls 4 in 7Gal pots and one in 25Gal pot (recently moved)
growing under the sun, they get sun through out the day (full exposure) with no light competition
i water the pots twice a day with about 2Gal per pot each time, this seems to keep the girls hydrated throughout the day
two of my girls already developed heavy bud production while the other are still lagging behind
im using GH flora and been feeding them twice a week; a slightly modified Lucas 12m 18b their entire life cycle
the plants always seem to have yellowing at the lower leaf region to the point that im losing all fan leaves as time progress
its ok in late flowering, but not though transition and veg period,
what am i doing wrong?
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I think what you have going on is absolutely gorgeous. that looks like paradise to me.
 
caligrowe47

caligrowe47

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1 tablespoon of 10-60-10 flowering nutes in a plastic gallon milk jug. i feed the plant nutes 1 every two times watering. so i water every 3-5 days a gallon of water. After 2 times watering, the third time i water with the flowering nutes. that clear anything up for you?
 
SOG

SOG

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Wordz said:
I think what you have going on is absolutely gorgeous. that looks like paradise too me.
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TYS
more pics here

enjoy

caligrowe47 said:
that clear anything up for you?
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your 10-60-10 sounds like trouble to me
When you have too much Potassium in your soil, it can lead to big troubles, like salt damage and acid fixation of the root system, as well as too much potassium can cause a calcium deficiency. Your fan leaves will show like a light to a dark yellow to whitish color in between the veins. Due to a molecular imbalance, potassium toxicity can cause a reduced uptake and lead to the deficiencies of Mg, and in some cases, Ca. Also leads to the other nutrients to not be absorbed properly leading to lots of other deficiency such as: magnesium, manganese, zinc and iron and can cause problems with calcium as well.
 
caligrowe47

caligrowe47

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i have used this flowering nutes plenty of times before with no effects noticable and no issues like this. are you sure its the nutes?
 
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hockey4848

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in veg under a 1k MH, about 16 inches from the plant (maybe too close??)

Just transplanted her 6 days a go into a 5gal, she is not looking so good...drooping down...etc.

any thoughts?
 
SOG

SOG

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this is a common issue when moving to a larger pot
she can only use her soil volume at this point; she is not yet spread out to the new soil volume
she is almost suspended in "mid air" in the new pot volume; water run to the bottom not up!
so she cant feed herself the way she used to in the old pot where she covered every corner
give her lots of water until she start catching up, flushing will help if she was pot bound
 
Uncle Ben

Uncle Ben

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caligrowe47 said:
1 tablespoon of 10-60-10 flowering nutes in a plastic gallon milk jug. i feed the plant nutes 1 every two times watering. so i water every 3-5 days a gallon of water. After 2 times watering, the third time i water with the flowering nutes. that clear anything up for you?
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DO NOT give cannabis high P foods, especially at that high rate. You have induced a micro and N deficiency. I give my outdoor faves a slow release 18-5-9 with micros and they look beautiful. All I do is water and they are beginning to flower heavily, all except for the O. Haze.

I addressed this pervasive problem - https://www.rollitup.org/marijuana-plant-problems/158144-never-ending-abuse-phosphorous-bloom.html
 
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