3 1000W or 5 600W?

[mr2shim]

Probably same kid, realized being a complete tool will get you banned. So he took it down a few notches, still is a huge douche though. Making ridiculous claims with no proof. Probably him, then again a lot of people do that here.

 

[gaztron3030]

Yeah I'd say you are right.
Lol I'm too paranoid at the moment to post pics but I'm taking some as I go and will post when I've cleaned the house ready to move and the paranoia's got no fuel lol.
Then again I don't think I make any ridiculous claims that need proving.

 

[mr2shim]

It's usually when you start making stupid ridiculous claims people ask for pictures. You shouldn't be too paranoid about it. Use a proxy and go to some wifi hotspot around down if you're really concerned.

 

[gaztron3030]

It's usually when you start making stupid ridiculous claims people ask for pictures. You shouldn't be too paranoid about it. Use a proxy and go to some wifi hotspot around down if you're really concerned.

I'm only a couple weeks away so might just wait, I live rural so don't to get to town often. what's the deal with a proxy?

 

[mr2shim]

I'm only a couple weeks away so might just wait, I live rural so don't to get to town often. what's the deal with a proxy?

Makes it a bit more difficult to trace.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proxy_server

 

[stumpjumper]

The guy lost me when he claimed cervantes as being a "knowledgeable grower".. Lmao that in itself gives away that he doesn't know shit other then what he's read.

He also continually states he's pursuing the most efficient way to grow, yet he isn't open to anybodys advise other than the shit he spews himself.


Anyways, The ignore button is your friend.

 

[mr2shim]

Thank you for noticing! Although I must admit, it has been rather entertaining.

 

[supchaka]

Lol, what? Well if someone does want to know how to grow efficiently they will read what I have to say, and if they want to know how to grow cheap smoke they will listen to what I have to say, and if they want to grow for enjoyment then they will simply follow what everyone has to say, either way, my input is reaching someone in a positive manner. Stop hating, get on board or get left at the station.

You've constantly talked about what's more efficient, cost effective etc. The original post said quite simply which lighting setup would provide the most coverage. The answer, without a fucking bit of doubt is 5 600's. Question answered, thread complete.


Just to throw out a bit more info that wasn't asked for, 3k watts whether its by 3 1k's or 5 600's is going to out yield 2 1k's on a light mover, all day, every fucking day. I know because I've seen it firsthand, not read in a book. Rails are good for vegging but no serious (intelligent) grower is going to flower with them. Especially when you are dealing with grows with wattage in the thousands. Commercial op's are about one thing and that is yield.


You're welcome.

 

[cannabineer]

You've constantly talked about what's more efficient, cost effective etc. The original post said quite simply which lighting setup would provide the most coverage. The answer, without a fucking bit of doubt is 5 600's. Question answered, thread complete.


Just to throw out a bit more info that wasn't asked for, 3k watts whether its by 3 1k's or 5 600's is going to out yield 2 1k's on a light mover, all day, every fucking day. I know because I've seen it firsthand, not read in a book. Rails are good for vegging but no serious (intelligent) grower is going to flower with them. Especially when you are dealing with grows with wattage in the thousands. Commercial op's are about one thing and that is yield.


You're welcome.

supchaka,

how would you arrange those five lamps over a 4x12? cn

 

[supchaka]

Personally I wouldn't use that many lights, but if you gave me the space and lights and said do it, It would be something like this... After drawing it I realized I used one too many lights! I'm getting greedy! So subtract a light and shift them all over a bit. Choo know what I mean, stagger them.

 

[HeartlandHank]

I would do 4-600s or 3-1ks. 5-600s over 4x12 would make for an odd layout.
4-600s with silver star reflectors, in-line. each light covering a 4x3. Or, 3 1ks, each a 4x4, whatever reflector.

If you have the ability to cool 3 1ks, and you have the height to house 1k's, i would think you would get more weight with the 1ks. Probably more efficient with 4-600s though.

I like 600s covering a 4x3 with silver stars. 4 plants per light. 13-15 oz per light with higher yielding genetics.

Make sure you are realizing the cooling needs of 3 1ks. not just aircooling, but air conditioning as well. 4 600s cool much easier than 3 1ks. As always, just my opinions.

 

[stumpjumper]

I would use 3 600's.. I lst though and could argue that lst'ing all your plants under 600's is going to be more efficient than using 2 1000's for sure.

I'm not here to argue though, I know what I can do by experience and 1 600 is all you need for a 4'x4' area, you would have perfect coverage with 3 600's. If you plan on growing 6' trees then you would be better off with 100's just because they penetrate more, but talking efficiency, lsting your plants and keeping a thick even canopy is more efficient then trees, imo.

That's what works for me. I won't persecute you for having a different opinion, until you disrespect me for having one of my own.

 

[a mongo frog]

I would use 3 600's.. I lst though and could argue that lst'ing all your plants under 600's is going to be more efficient than using 2 1000's for sure.

I'm not here to argue though, I know what I can do by experience and 1 600 is all you need for a 4'x4' area, you would have perfect coverage with 3 600's. If you plan on growing 6' trees then you would be better off with 100's just because they penetrate more, but talking efficiency, lsting your plants and keeping a thick even canopy is more efficient then trees, imo.

That's what works for me. I won't persecute you for having a different opinion, until you disrespect me for having one of my own.

oh he will, were all just a bunch of did shits.

 

[IndicaDom]

The guy lost me when he claimed cervantes as being a "knowledgeable grower".. Lmao that in itself gives away that he doesn't know shit other then what he's read.

He also continually states he's pursuing the most efficient way to grow, yet he isn't open to anybodys advise other than the shit he spews himself.

Don't worry, if this shit keeps up he wont be around long.

I said Jorge Cervantes was a very experienced grower, but not a God, the God's exist in the laboratories across the globe. Your reading comprehension is comparable to these other hethens.

You've constantly talked about what's more efficient, cost effective etc. The original post said quite simply which lighting setup would provide the most coverage. The answer, without a fucking bit of doubt is 5 600's. Question answered, thread complete.


Just to throw out a bit more info that wasn't asked for, 3k watts whether its by 3 1k's or 5 600's is going to out yield 2 1k's on a light mover, all day, every fucking day. I know because I've seen it firsthand, not read in a book. Rails are good for vegging but no serious (intelligent) grower is going to flower with them. Especially when you are dealing with grows with wattage in the thousands. Commercial op's are about one thing and that is yield.


You're welcome.

Inefficient, sorry you're wrong.

Personally I wouldn't use that many lights, but if you gave me the space and lights and said do it, It would be something like this... After drawing it I realized I used one too many lights! I'm getting greedy! So subtract a light and shift them all over a bit. Choo know what I mean, stagger them.

You people contradict yourself at every corner.

 

[IndicaDom]

I would use 3 600's.. I lst though and could argue that lst'ing all your plants under 600's is going to be more efficient than using 2 1000's for sure.

I'm not here to argue though, I know what I can do by experience and 1 600 is all you need for a 4'x4' area, you would have perfect coverage with 3 600's. If you plan on growing 6' trees then you would be better off with 100's just because they penetrate more, but talking efficiency, lsting your plants and keeping a thick even canopy is more efficient then trees, imo.

That's what works for me. I won't persecute you for having a different opinion, until you disrespect me for having one of my own.

No it isn't because you don't understand that he isn't vegging his plants, LST? Get out of here dude, and 2/1000W on a light mover is the most cost effective way to light those tables, period, end of discussion. The numbers have been ran, sorry. LSTing is for hobby growers.

 

[cannabineer]

Personally I wouldn't use that many lights, but if you gave me the space and lights and said do it, It would be something like this... After drawing it I realized I used one too many lights! I'm getting greedy! So subtract a light and shift them all over a bit. Choo know what I mean, stagger them.

My point of interest is that I do not know the optimal packing of five lamps into a 4x12 rectangle. Four and six are trivial ... but five is not. cn

 

[stumpjumper]

I have went through this guys posts and I don't really think he is a troll. You guys can't really blame someone for not wanting to post pictures, growing is still illegal federally and in most states also. Not everyone has the balls to put up incriminating pics.

This guy definitely has a unique personality and it is going to rub the vast majority here the wrong way. The worst attitude to come in to these forums with is that of "I know what I'm talking about and the rest of you are dumb asses" it don't fly and you all know those kind of guys come and go about as quick as they got here.

Please put him on ignore instead of arguing with him. Be the bigger man. It's tough to do on a forum but keeping the fight going back and forth isn't going to solve the problem and if he is indeed trolling then getting no response is going to irritate him more than you arguing back. That's what they want you to do.

You should all know this anyways.

There's no fun in trying to irritate people when they ignore you.

 

[IndicaDom]

I have went through this guys posts and I don't really think he is a troll. You guys can't really blame someone for not wanting to post pictures, growing is still illegal federally and in most states also. Not everyone has the balls to put up incriminating pics.

This guy definitely has a unique personality and it is going to rub the vast majority here the wrong way. The worst attitude to come in to these forums with is that of "I know what I'm talking about and the rest of you are dumb asses" it don't fly and you all know those kind of guys come and go about as quick as they got here.

Please put him on ignore instead of arguing with him. Be the bigger man. It's tough to do on a forum but keeping the fight going back and forth isn't going to solve the problem and if he is indeed trolling then getting no response is going to irritate him more than you arguing back. That's what they want you to do.

You should all know this anyways.

There's no fun in trying to irritate people when they ignore you.

It doesn't matter, after realizing the admins on this forum will give up personal information I will no longer be posting, your prayers are answered, have fun with bliss.

 

[nick88]

My point of interest is that I do not know the optimal packing of five lamps into a 4x12 rectangle. Four and six are trivial ... but five is not. cn

Only way i see to get 5 is to run down center and narrow area used by 6in on each outside edge.

 

[cannabineer]

I guess. I could pose it as a math problem: you have the rectangle and five dots. Place the dots so that their shortest distance from each other and from the rectangle's walls is as great as possible. I don't have the coding skills to run the sim, however. cn