I didn't post the link, I'm simply responding to it. I'm sure ganja isn't the same as beans, but I would assume it's not too far off. And like I said, real world experience clearly shows me that the PAR light is not transmitting through ganja leaves at a high percentage.
I think it will always go back to not enough light for the quantity you are trying to get... It's either go outdoor or get more lights...I don't see a benefit on defoliation if the plant is healthy... Removing upper fan leaves have to affect the bud outcome cuz of all stuff stored in it... I just can't see the benefit of defoliation orremoving leaves for bottom growth man...
Next grow I'm try to increase nitrogen levels and see if there is any difference... Even though I'm just coming to just get more lights/more grows at the same time... This high yield shit is getting ridiculous...
Honestly the main reason I remove leaves is for better air circulation. I hope you don't have any problems on that front come close to harvest time, because poor air circulation can often manifest as powdery mildew. Yuk! Leaf removal is just one way I'd defeated that concern, and yields have not suffered as a result.
No. Lack of light isn't the issue. It's the simple fact that fan leaves shade out the light, which I can clearly see manifested as localized yellowing below the fan leaves which are literally millimeters above it at 7000+ footcandles.
I have nothing against that.. I mean ou gotta do what you gotta do to keep the plant healthy.... The main thing is the whoe idea behind this thread which is yielding... People should forget about that and focus on growing healthy plants.... I got a fan going on all the time providing air all around so I think it should be fine... I only have 3 plants
Of course is lighting... I'm sure that having an stationary light system can't provide all the angles and stuff, plus why not tucking or training instead of removal? Or a light mover will work as well... Problem is light coming from one direction and fan leaves setting up to get as much light as possible
This thing with mr. Diaz is looking more like trying to prove a point... I'm out of here lol
In my tent with the 600w I only have 4 plants. In that tent I have the exhaust fan (of course), a crappy duct fan for a little extra intake, two 4 inch "computer style" axial fans (120v type @ approx 100cfm each), two small 4 inch circulator fans on the floor, and an upright oscillator. So, that's 7 fans total. I think I'm good there. Problem is I live in a fog bank a few blocks from the beach, so humidity is a constant battle. I just got a dehumidifier in the past few months, and that's helped a lot too.
I do tuck and train. Tucking simply doesn't work that great IMO, and the air circulation issue persists.
It simply wasn't that great then. Lots of popcorn and flarf towards the bottom of the plant -- an issue that I didn't have this harvest with some strategic leaf removal.
No, I'm simply trying to disprove misinformation. If you want to believe one thing, and hold fast to that, well good for you (I guess). Thing is you haven't even gotten through one harvest yet, and you're already set in your ways. Seems kinda silly to me.
That's a very good point.
Nope, it's clear to me that is a light problem... If light is unable to reach certain places its because something you are doing is not doing what the sun does outdoors...I'm not a perfectionist... I know how silly fellas get with this... We are growing pot.. Yes, it's my first grow but I wasn't born yesterday.... You are trying to disprove nothing.... You just don't want to accept facts... Grow one in a 10 x 10 x 10 room... With a couple 1k lights and light movers... You will see that it gets light everywhere.... The sky is pretty wide here... See one thing about arguing to get to an answer is sticking with the main concern... Answering it and then moving on... But if you don't want to hear the answer to your question and decide to ask a bunch more and so.. Lets not reinvent the wheel man... Removing leaves Is the solution... I guess... Like I said before... Before you waste your time doing that... Veg Shorter or whatever..
With the most important dynamic for cannabis, a short day plant, is the action of phytochrome on the flowering response.
Like I said, we've discussed this stuff for 15 years. This is just rehashing what some of us understand. Hmmmmmmm, wiki has a good one. Let's see....
Emphasis mine.
Aint buying it, just like I don't buy 90% of the stuff/theories in this forum. If you need money for a few fans I'll be glad to help. Walmart has some good buys.
Feeling, not a fact.
Gawd, that's all we need. Another blind leading the blind, feel-good, forum consensus poll.
He is driven to control the narrative, and that's OK if he had any scientific evidence of why fan leaves are destructive which it totally ludicrous. Someone needs to read R.C. Clarke's MJ Botany again and check out Jorge Cervantes.
