Marxism

[Kite High]

mmmmmmmmmm...ok

 

[abandonconflict]

still having trouble with the big words, i see.

feudalism has NOTHING to do with capitalism or in fact any economic theory, nor has feudalism ANYTHING to do with the political system in the US or anywhere in the worlds save cuba, north korea or other monarchial autocratic states where leadership positions are based solely on the favour of the hereditary overlord, and are revokable at any time upon his displeasure.

in other words, authoritarian socialist regimes are more akin to feudalism than any liberal progressive capitalist society can EVER be.

once a progressive society begins to approach feudal systems, they become Regressive (like authoritarian socialism) which is easy to spot.

refusing to learn when repeatedly told the difference is willful ignorance. pretending to not know the difference is despicable.

Then why do I have to keep pointing this out to you? Oh yeah, you're jumping out and shouting that I am arguing for authoritarian (statist) socialism. Yet you're quite comfortable with your infatuation with other forms of statism.

So marxism and socialism are now synonymous? Therefore synonymous with authoritarian statism? Ergo Libertian Socialists (anarchists) are actually Bolshevics?

Cool story Kynes.

 

[Doer]

 

[ginwilly]

I am creating a thread where tea baggers can rant about Marxism being the all encompassing left wing academy. This would be a good place for them to try to label people who disagree with them as a commie, socialist or Marxist.

nothing to add to your thread, just thought this was funny. (in a sad, ironic, he'll never see it sort of funny)

 

[Dr Kynes]

Then why do I have to keep pointing this out to you? Oh yeah, you're jumping out and shouting that I am arguing for authoritarian (statist) socialism. Yet you're quite comfortable with your infatuation with other forms of statism.

So marxism and socialism are now synonymous? Therefore synonymous with authoritarian statism? Ergo Libertian Socialists (anarchists) are actually Bolshevics?

Cool story Kynes.

more pathetic word games.

socialism is a FORM under marxism's banner,, as is communism.

your silly word games do not change the facts, and since "libertarian socialism" is an oxymoron, and is a FICTION no, it is not bolshevism, though those who cling to that idiotic catchphrase are often marxists, but most often merely deluded children who dont know their trostky from a hole in the ground.

like you.

 

[Doer]

You Groucho...

 

[abandonconflict]

more pathetic word games.

socialism is a FORM under marxism's banner,, as is communism.

your silly word games do not change the facts, and since "libertarian socialism" is an oxymoron, and is a FICTION no, it is not bolshevism, though those who cling to that idiotic catchphrase are often marxists, but most often merely deluded children who dont know their trostky from a hole in the ground.

like you.

So is that why you always bring up Marx? You seem to love talking about Marx. Why are you pushing so much Marxism bro?

 

[nontheist]

Or what is going on in the US, or feudalism.

[video=youtube_share;2ekYkO91Wag]http://youtu.be/2ekYkO91Wag[/video]

 

[UncleBuck]

 

[Rob Roy]

Actually, the result is that eventually, one person (or worse, several people) would own both the farm and the equipment. The guy who owns everything would be a billionaire and the people who farm corn would have nothing but labor to sell to someone who wants to sell them corn.

I disagree. A real free market ensures competition and doesn't end with the bad guy enslaving everybody. However, the so called "free market" of today can and does aid monopoly.

Not many people have mentioned Murray Rothbard here, I give you points for knowing who he is. Consider reading Market for Liberty by Morris and Linda Tannehill, they do a good job explaining how a free market would not give the bad results you are concerned with.

 

[Harrekin]

Another retarded thread, just like this pink fairy armadillo.

 

[cannabineer]

I disagree. A real free market ensures competition and doesn't end with the bad guy enslaving everybody. However, the so called "free market" of today can and does aid monopoly.

Not many people have mentioned Murray Rothbard here, I give you points for knowing who he is. Consider reading Market for Liberty by Morris and Linda Tannehill, they do a good job explaining how a free market would not give the bad results you are concerned with.

A question about the bolded. How does a free market do away with the armed, organized predators who'd gather around the choke points and watering holes, such as the old Silk Road? cn

 

[Harrekin]

A question about the bolded. How does a free market do away with the armed, organized predators who'd gather around the choke points and watering holes, such as the old Silk Road? cn

Guns.

Lots of guns.

 

[Mr Neutron]

I don't oppose the ownership of personal property. I do consider it to be a grave act of aggression upon humanity to defile the earth.

Do you mean personal property or private property?

 

[Doer]

I disagree. A real free market ensures competition and doesn't end with the bad guy enslaving everybody. However, the so called "free market" of today can and does aid monopoly.

Not many people have mentioned Murray Rothbard here, I give you points for knowing who he is. Consider reading Market for Liberty by Morris and Linda Tannehill, they do a good job explaining how a free market would not give the bad results you are concerned with.

All ya get with these theories is wishful thinking for those that have only just begun to think. In other word to seriously manipulate the new hatched thinkers.

"defile" just another manipulative label.

 

[Mr Neutron]

Don't make me quote Rothbard.

Ah, c'mon, quote him.

 

[Mr Neutron]

nothing to add to your thread, just thought this was funny. (in a sad, ironic, he'll never see it sort of funny)

LOL, great catch.

 

[cannabineer]

Guns.

Lots of guns.

Requisitioning those guns will distort the local economic base (market). Maybe the market never was truly free. cn

 

[Rob Roy]

A question about the bolded. How does a free market do away with the armed, organized predators who'd gather around the choke points and watering holes, such as the old Silk Road? cn

Good question. If you get a chance, check out Linda and Morris Tannehill's book. The Market for Liberty. They cover this in one of the chapters.

By the way, how does the "unfree market" we now have prevent this kind of thievery?

 

[abandonconflict]

Good question. If you get a chance, check out Linda and Morris Tannehill's book. The Market for Liberty. They cover this in one of the chapters.

By the way, how does the "unfree market" we now have prevent this kind of thievery?

Which chapter?

I would like to read a coherent argument as to how there are no capitalists in capitalism. I read chapter 4 and I was not impressed with the argument for the privatization of law enforcement and property protection.