Monsanto cannabis yes or no? The DNA Protection Act of 2013

[Canna Sylvan]

youre clearly buffleheaded.

Relax.

 

[Doer]

No No No! the nazis werent jews, they wre VICTIMS of the jews and their incredibly complicated plots and schemes. the nazis were USED by nefarious Jews in an amazingly circuitous and convoluted plot to trick the nazis into actually committing genocide as the impetus for the UN (which didnt exist at the time) to give the zionists the land of israel....

Yeah, how else would you get enough sympathy in this world to add perpetuity for Skinheads, and so have a forever enemy of your Zion, to cry about?

Cool trick. Ya gotta respect that.

 

[Doer]

You might want to keep this thread between you two. This belongs on an Aryan Brotherhood board....this is amazingly inappropriate dialogue in a public forum.

That's it. You are revealed as the Soup Nazi. You DO NOT get to say what is appropriate here. If I went that far, I'd say your entire hyper-personal approach to this is completely, and childishly inappropriate of you.

When you attempt to censor you don't belong here.

 

[Harrekin]

But if he wasn't, we have to inform Obama so he can drone his spice dealing ass! Even if he's not, can we take that chance?

Thanks for quoting that, seems the delete-fairy did their rounds.

Its like, totally, censorship...man.

 

[burgertime2010]

That's it. You are revealed as the Soup Nazi. You DO NOT get to say what is appropriate here. If I went that far, I'd say your entire hyper-personal approach to this is completely, and childishly inappropriate of you. When you attempt to censor you don't belong here.

The funny thing is I can say whatever I like. You are guilty of the same offense. I would say calling me a Soup Nazi is childish. I don't have a lot space for Nazi rhetoric. Settle down.

 

[Doer]

that was Seinfeld

We can both say what we want.... get used to it. Go read the phrasing...nothing personal

 

[burgertime2010]

that was Seinfeld We can both say what we want.... get used to it. Go read the phrasing...nothing personal

Ok, I guess getting used to it isn't easy with certain topics. It seems so obvious I guess...I will be the first to admit I am oversensitive....watch me get emasculated.

 

[lovemymj]

There it is. I do not like the idea of a company creating a monopoly on a naturally occurring plant.

Greedy bastards!

I couldn't agree more!

 

[cannabineer]

The funny thing is I can say whatever I like. You are guilty of the same offense. I would say calling me a Soup Nazi is childish. I don't have a lot space for Nazi rhetoric. Settle down.

Do you perhaps see how your post about sovereignty and genetic purity can be seen as such, though? You still have not explained to me what you mean by sovereignty, and if any part of it isn't posited as axiom. How do i detect/measure this sovereignty? How much of it withstands hostile review? Is it real, imagined, or presumed? If not the first, I have no use for the concept: it contributes nothing and casts a mystical light upon questions that are engineering in nature. My opinion. cn

 

[burgertime2010]

Do you perhaps see how your post about sovereignty and genetic purity can be seen as such, though? You still have not explained to me what you mean by sovereignty, and if any part of it isn't posited as axiom. How do i detect/measure this sovereignty? How much of it withstands hostile review? Is it real, imagined, or presumed? If not the first, I have no use for the concept: it contributes nothing and casts a mystical light upon questions that are engineering in nature. My opinion. cn

I see how it would be possible to link my words to the concepts you mentioned, but, to run with it and assign a meaning seems like it was fun to you. For the record, I do not align with national socialism. I use sovereignty to express the notion that unmodified plant forms are free from a factor of control. A state of independence and strength that grants domain to unmolested genetics, the measurement of which is simply DNA comparison. Hypothetically, having custodianship over genetics over the long term would suffice. A class in genetics is what you need, I cannot give you more than my perceived value of such a state of being.

 

[NLXSK1]

I have never seen you out of combat, do you ever take time and offer it in a way that benefits others? From what I can see, you look for fights and bullshit people until they flee. Please, get help.

This is the politics section. Are you new here?

 

[Harrekin]

I see how it would be possible to link my words to the concepts you mentioned, but, to run with it and assign a meaning seems like it was fun to you. For the record, I do not align with national socialism. I use sovereignty to express the notion that unmodified plant forms are free from a factor of control. A state of independence and strength that grants domain to unmolested genetics, the measurement of which is simply DNA comparison. Hypothetically, having custodianship over genetics over the long term would suffice. A class in genetics is what you need, I cannot give you more than my perceived value of such a state of being.

So basically, you're all for "genetic purity" ??

 

[Dr Kynes]

This is the politics section. Are you new here?

Failure to submit to his Obviously Correct, and Unavoidable Wisdom defies his Mandate from Heaven, so he re-writes history to support his Glorious Dynasty.

go back a few pages, and youll see a discussion wherin he demanded answers to his misconceptions and flawed assumptions, which he then countered with a bizarre screed about "Scientifically Proven" secrets of the Dao and claims that he has special knowledge regarding the secrets of the universe, received obviously through direct communion with the Celestial Emperor and the Jade Court.

you must not question his imperial mejesty, for he has tasted the sweet nectar of the Peaches Of Immortality recieved from the hand of Ma Xing Wu, the Queen Mother Of The West, he has sat at the feet of Guan Yin, and learned the true nature of things, Studied the Eternal Sciences of Medicine with the Celestial Healer Qi Bo, and communed on the nature of plants and herbs with the Celestial Farmer Shen Nong, and absorbed the wit and wisdom of the Monkey King Sun Wu Kong.

You see Daoism is not a religion, and how dare anyone claim it is! Daoism is scientific fact! Its totally proven, scientifically by scientists, and he would show us these scientific proofs, but it would Blow Our Minds, and nobody wants that, it's so messy.

One must be ever respectful of such a great mind, and give him face. Failing to give face is proof that your filial piety is less than perfect, and tha t's just not allowed.

Oh yeah, and you cannot discuss wacky moonbat conspiracy theories, because thats racist and insensitive, nor can you question his claims of the Sovereignty of Non-Human Life. He got that one in a Revelation from Nu Wa, the Goddess of The Sky.

This forum exists as a vehicle for his Perfect Thoughts, which he disseminates in tiny doses as he deems us ready. Contrary views are forbidden.

 

[Doer]

Well, let's not go crazy. The point burger misses and get's trolled on is that all genomes are under constant assault and modification by virus. And since almost surely virus has made us Humans, virus wants us to:

(1)Take them off planet. We are doing that for them. We just took a contaminated tool locker to Mars. So, we don't know if virus is able to directly make folks do these mistakes, but they can and do capitalize on them.

(2) Continue their modification work using our brains and hands.

The plain fact to me is that human sovereignty is actually viral sovereignty.

It's beyond our control. Microbes of all types control us.

 

[cannabineer]

I see how it would be possible to link my words to the concepts you mentioned, but, to run with it and assign a meaning seems like it was fun to you. For the record, I do not align with national socialism. I use sovereignty to express the notion that unmodified plant forms are free from a factor of control. A state of independence and strength that grants domain to unmolested genetics, the measurement of which is simply DNA comparison. Hypothetically, having custodianship over genetics over the long term would suffice. A class in genetics is what you need, I cannot give you more than my perceived value of such a state of being.

I have read some genetics, and never have I encountered your value-judging terms: sovereignty, control, molestation. You are implying something both serious and (irreducibly/irredeemably) doctrinal: that human manipulation of genomes is evil. There isn't a biology or any other science of evil; that concept remains in the province of religion.
I challenge and oppose this viewpoint as utterly unnecessary (in terms of its potential to advance the discussion) and very capable of harm (by imposing what amounts to a doctrinal taboo on an activity with tremendous potential).

We cannot really discuss this fruitfully, since your position is one of faith. I was hoping you'd at least make the effort to provide insight into the basis for your beliefs, to try to convince me that these things you'd posted as fact (sovereignty, freedom from implicitly inappropriate control, GM is a sort of molestation) have in fact a compelling basis in reason.
I don't think you can however. You seem to be making the basic mistakes of priests throughout the last fifteen (at least) thousand years: it is so because you damned well say so.
Well I am not buying, and I doubt you will convince anyone who doesn't already share your visceral impression that GM is indeed inherently evil. I do not. More to the point, I've seen your pseudo-objective post for what it is: nothing better than evangelism.

And of course I had fun drawing the parallel without ever honestly believing that you were indeed some sort of Nazi. My preferred response would have been to see I'd shocked you into really considering how what you said sounded. In its moral presumption, i see it as no better than any other ideology imposed upon a group. It appears I failed. cn

 

[burgertime2010]

I have read some genetics, and never have I encountered your value-judging terms: sovereignty, control, molestation. You are implying something both serious and (irreducibly/irredeemably) doctrinal: that human manipulation of genomes is evil. There isn't a biology or any other science of evil; that concept remains in the province of religion. I challenge and oppose this viewpoint as utterly unnecessary (in terms of its potential to advance the discussion) and very capable of harm (by imposing what amounts to a doctrinal taboo on an activity with tremendous potential). We cannot really discuss this fruitfully, since your position is one of faith. I was hoping you'd at least make the effort to provide insight into the basis for your beliefs, to try to convince me that these things you'd posted as fact (sovereignty, freedom from implicitly inappropriate control, GM is a sort of molestation) have in fact a compelling basis in reason. I don't think you can however. You seem to be making the basic mistakes of priests throughout the last fifteen (at least) thousand years: it is so because you damned well say so. Well I am not buying, and I doubt you will convince anyone who doesn't already share your visceral impression that GM is indeed inherently evil. I do not. More to the point, I've seen your pseudo-objective post for what it is: nothing better than evangelism. And of course I had fun drawing the parallel without ever honestly believing that you were indeed some sort of Nazi. My preferred response would have been to see I'd shocked you into really considering how what you said sounded. In its moral presumption, i see it as no better than any other ideology imposed upon a group. It appears I failed. cn

Let me begin by saying my response you demanded of me. The definition I gave you is legitimate, look for yourself. Unmolested simply means not interfered with, unchanged, and/or unharmed. Your unquestioning faith is simplistic in a way when all it requires is to berate and negate. You "have no use for" further elaboration unless it is the answer you are fishing for. Your faith in the contrary is no different, by insulting me you attempt to imply my stance has no merit. However, I never said that GM is inherently evil, I spoke of caution and articulated respect for non gmo-foods. You are a reactionary plain and simple. When you preface your question as you did, you cannot feign interest in my process, you can marinate in convoluted hyperbole but the irony here is amazing. Hypocrisy is this level of dishonesty.....shame on you.

 

[Figong]

Let me begin by saying my response you demanded of me. The definition I gave you is legitimate, look for yourself. Unmolested simply means not interfered with, unchanged, and/or unharmed. Your unquestioning faith is simplistic in a way when all it requires is to berate and negate. You "have no use for" further elaboration unless it is the answer you are fishing for. Your faith in the contrary is no different, by insulting me you attempt to imply my stance has no merit. However, I never said that GM is inherently evil, I spoke of caution and articulated respect for non gmo-foods. You are a reactionary plain and simple. When you preface your question as you did, you cannot feign interest in my process, you can marinate in convoluted hyperbole but the irony here is amazing. Hypocrisy is this level of dishonesty.....shame on you.

I'll counter with:

 

[burgertime2010]

I agree and realize that GMO exist in nature, it is evolutions' way. I see the impact you speak of but in terms of these crazy fucks and their hyperbolic gangbang I am just going to watch.

 

[Doer]

Let me begin by saying my response you demanded of me. The definition I gave you is legitimate, look for yourself. Unmolested simply means not interfered with, unchanged, and/or unharmed. Your unquestioning faith is simplistic in a way when all it requires is to berate and negate. You "have no use for" further elaboration unless it is the answer you are fishing for. Your faith in the contrary is no different, by insulting me you attempt to imply my stance has no merit. However, I never said that GM is inherently evil, I spoke of caution and articulated respect for non gmo-foods. You are a reactionary plain and simple. When you preface your question as you did, you cannot feign interest in my process, you can marinate in convoluted hyperbole but the irony here is amazing. Hypocrisy is this level of dishonesty.....shame on you.

It is interesting how some can twist this into a personal fight and will not let go, jammed jaws. And the personal angst and acting put upon, the lashing out, it is not dis-smilar from Rap or Hip-Hop, or base Trolling.

Burger, if you tell me you actually believe we can demand anything from you....I'll tell you, you are trolling.

 

[Doer]

I agree and realize that GMO exist in nature, it is evolutions' way. I see the impact you speak of but in terms of these crazy fucks and their hyperbolic gangbang I am just going to watch.

Well you can. It really is more an arena of ideas than a fight club. Best to watch until your head clears.

This forum is the most important thing we can experience, because it ruthlessly strips our self shit and leave us breathless. We fall for our own illusion that much of ourselves is important to these other Idea Icons. No.

I can't fight, but I can flee. I can only learn to be less personal with typed photons. So, I stay. Work it out.