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Sand4x105

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Newbies….
KISS…. Keep it simple stupid…
Do not listen to convoluted logic where someone [this OP/the next thread like this/etc]
Has to prove himself to others…
Someone that has to beat his chest [Tarzan style], and shout:
“I’M RIGHT LISTEN TO ME, THESE OTHERS ARE WRONG!”
Just hit next thread and move on…
There is some great info here on RIU…
Personally, I think that any “Newbie” that started reading this thread, is really fukken confused right now…
Look, there are posters here, that think, the voice of God has given them wisdom…
Others here read a bunch of internet sheiot, and now think themselves god like…
Run Newbies…. Run away…
Good Luck Newbies !!
 

applepoop1984

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Neither of these apply to soil, the first link is everything in a flowing liquid solution, the second is for sludge. Please compare apples to apples if you want to prove anything worthwhile other than trying too hard to prove your self in this failing thread.

http://dge.stanford.edu/SCOPE/SCOPE_31/SCOPE_31_2.05_Chapter10_119-146.pdf

Two things of note from this document:
1) The amounts of Cd introduced into the soil through normal phosphorus fertilization, however, are quite small. For example, the application of 50 kg P per hectare from rock phosphate [CaIOF2(P04)6] which contained 20 mg P per kg would introduce 5.4 gm of Cd to the soil. If mixed with the surface 15 cm of a silt loam soil, this application would increase the Cd concentration of a soil containing 0.3 mg Cd/kg by about 1%.
2) The two most important factors governing the uptake of cadmium by crops are the soil pH and the concentration of Cd in the soil....If other soil conditions remain unchanged, the cadmium concentration of plant tissue would decrease as the pH of the soil increased...The mean concentration of Cd in Swiss chard grown at control plots of four farms with soil pH values ranging from 4.9 to 5.4 was 1.98 mg Cd/kg while that of the limed control plots (soil pH values between 6.] to 6.4) was 0.57 mg Cd/kg. Liming the same soils which were contaminated with Cd from land application of municipal sewage sludge reduced the mean Cd concentration of the Swiss chard from 40.5 to 3.0] mg/kg.

So fertilizers actually introduce very low levels of Cd and furthermore, keeping soil pH above 6 would greatly reduce any chance for absorption in plants, particularly considering that we seem to be focusing on MJ plants grown in soil in containers for only a few months.

You are trying way too hard to prove your points on this thread, and failing by not using valid comparisons. Just take your lumps and admit you are wrong about some things.

you do realize a hectare = 10000 square meters lol. i thought we were talking about potted plants, the first two links are applicable they deal with removal of cadmium.

"Among the commercial fertilizers, phosphorus fertilizers
contain somewhat elevated levels of Cd." from your own source

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1747-0765.2006.00007.x

". The effect of soilacidification on Cd uptake differed among the plant species owing to differences in tolerance to low pH."
http://www2.uwstout.edu/content/lib/thesis/2011/2011upadhyayab.pdf
"This research study reports the concentrations of Cd taken up by parsley grown in acidic,
basic and neutral soils contaminated with CdO or Cd(NO3)2. The results of the study showed
that the pH of the soil does not affect the amount of Cd absorbed by parsley"



do you know what year your study is from? 1987. do you know what year my study is from? 2011. gasp but but my 26 year old study my must be right? iv already proven that different plants dont uptake cadmium in te same amounts at similar ph. so sorry to sink your dinghy. do you have a study on the uptake of cannabis at ph below 6? didnt think so
 

applepoop1984

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Newbies….
KISS…. Keep it simple stupid…
Do not listen to convoluted logic where someone [this OP/the next thread like this/etc]
Has to prove himself to others…
Someone that has to beat his chest [Tarzan style], and shout:
“I’M RIGHT LISTEN TO ME, THESE OTHERS ARE WRONG!”
Just hit next thread and move on…
There is some great info here on RIU…
Personally, I think that any “Newbie” that started reading this thread, is really fukken confused right now…
Look, there are posters here, that think, the voice of God has given them wisdom…
Others here read a bunch of internet sheiot, and now think themselves god like…
Run Newbies…. Run away…
Good Luck Newbies !!
yeah run from any and all trolls that have nothing better to do. the issue was with flushing. i stated its important to flush to remove nutes from the bud. chuck estevez stated... well look at my sig. i cant tell you how erroneous that statement is. in all the studies iv posted on here they all state that the heavy metal cadmium was found in plants, crops, and even marijuana smoke, 10 times the amount that is in tobacco smoke. do you really want a "newbie" to run from that? still think its not good to flush? i even posted a list of nutrients 52 pages long listing there cadmium content so the newbies can make there own desicions. youv got it all wrong, others have been trying to prove this to me, the guy who said he was done with this thread and me... 6 times now in the last 3 days keeps coming back. so whos really tarzan
 

Jeffdogg

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Newbies….
KISS…. Keep it simple stupid…
Do not listen to convoluted logic where someone [this OP/the next thread like this/etc]
Has to prove himself to others…
Someone that has to beat his chest [Tarzan style], and shout:
“I’M RIGHT LISTEN TO ME, THESE OTHERS ARE WRONG!”
Just hit next thread and move on…
There is some great info here on RIU…
Personally, I think that any “Newbie” that started reading this thread, is really fukken confused right now…
Look, there are posters here, that think, the voice of God has given them wisdom…
Others here read a bunch of internet sheiot, and now think themselves god like…
Run Newbies…. Run away…
Good Luck Newbies !!
And only somebody with god given righteousness should be to judge and say such a thing.


and now think themselves god like…
Run Newbies…. Run away…
Trying to heard sheep to safety are we? I dont think its the newbies that think they have the god complex bud.. Its you w/o a doubt, you have a bunch of new growers here that are trying to help eachother, yeah maybe he made the thread for a wrong reason, maybe in his heart he was really trying to not only help but maybe get other people to add info into the pot to make it better. Yeah might mess a new grower or 2 up reading some info that isnt the greatest. But you know what? THEY ARE NEW GROWERS THEY WILL MAKE MISTAKES LET THEM LEARN. There is some info thats isnt bad in here. Just cause you dont like some of it does not give you the god given power to be god mod of the forum and try to stray people away from a thread that was started by a new grower in the NEWBIE section. Here you are on your high horse (i bet its white too isnt it?) and you would rather act condescending and rude, instead of trying to help and correct misinformation. Your not helping nobody, it just seems like YOU are the one who wants the attention.
I mean after all the OP didn't

Write like this to prove some ignorant point
 

applepoop1984

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"The effects of different cadmium concentrations [17 mg(Cd) kg−1(soil) and 72 mg(Cd) kg− 1(soil)] on Cannabis sativa L. growth and photosynthesis were examined. Hemp roots showed a high tolerance to Cd, i.e. more than 800 mg(Cd) kg−1(d.m.) in roots had no major effect on hemp growth, whereas in leaves and stems concentrations of 50 – 100 mg(Cd) kg−1(d.m.) had a strong effect on plant viability and vitality. For control of heavy metal uptake and xylem loading in hemp roots, the soil pH plays a central role. Photosynthetic performance and regulation of light energy consumption were analysed using chlorophyll fluorescence analysis. Seasonal changes in photosynthetic performance were visible in control plants and plants growing on soil with 17 mg(Cd) kg−1(soil). Energy distribution in photosystem 2 is regulated in low and high energy phases that allow optimal use of light and protect photosystem 2 from overexcitation, respectively. Photosynthesis and energy dissipation were negatively influenced by 72 mg(Cd) kg−1(soil). Cd had detrimental effects on chlorophyll synthesis, water splitting apparatus, reaction centre, antenna and energy distribution of PS 2. Under moderate cadmium concentrations, i.e. 17 mg(Cd) kg−1(soil), hemp could preserve growth as well as the photosynthesis apparatus, and long-term acclimation to chronically Cd stress occurred."

http://link.springer.com/article/10.1007%2Fs10535-005-0051-4

this pretty much settles the debate, flushing is beneficial. especially if used with h2o2 which has been found to remove over 50% in as little as 50 minutes through oxidation. contrary to what chucky finster might have you think, marijuana is a highly acclimated absorber of cadmium and flushing should be done to the soil before even plantign a seed or a clone, it shoudl be repeated once a month and all flushes should contain h2o2 a minimum of 1 cup per gallon of 3%.
 

kinetic

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So if cadium is stored in the buds and leaves why would flushing get rid of it? Seems a little pointless to flush with that fact doesn't it?

Also I have to assume someone has already stated that eating cilantro regularly removes heavy metals from the body.
 

brotherjericho

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you do realize a hectare = 10000 square meters lol. i thought we were talking about potted plants, the first two links are applicable they deal with removal of cadmium.

"Among the commercial fertilizers, phosphorus fertilizers
contain somewhat elevated levels of Cd." from your own source

http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/pdf/10.1111/j.1747-0765.2006.00007.x

". The effect of soilacidification on Cd uptake differed among the plant species owing to differences in tolerance to low pH."
http://www2.uwstout.edu/content/lib/thesis/2011/2011upadhyayab.pdf
"This research study reports the concentrations of Cd taken up by parsley grown in acidic,
basic and neutral soils contaminated with CdO or Cd(NO3)2. The results of the study showed
that the pH of the soil does not affect the amount of Cd absorbed by parsley"



do you know what year your study is from? 1987. do you know what year my study is from? 2011. gasp but but my 26 year old study my must be right? iv already proven that different plants dont uptake cadmium in te same amounts at similar ph. so sorry to sink your dinghy. do you have a study on the uptake of cannabis at ph below 6? didnt think so
PH is Ph, is Ph. Not much has changed in those intervening years.

In any case, the introduction of cadmium into the soil in the above study was not via fertilizers or others, but prepared solutions of cadmium oxide and cadmium nitrate. Solution means that the ions are readily available for plant uptake, and not being pulled from the actual soil. That is where pH comes in: the pH must be lowered to a point where the cadmium ions in the soil (not in an an aqueous solution) are available to uptake by the roots.

Again, apples and oranges. You cannot continue to bring up unrelated studies to prove a point, it is very poor science.
 

applepoop1984

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So if cadium is stored in the buds and leaves why would flushing get rid of it? Seems a little pointless to flush with that fact doesn't it?

Also I have to assume someone has already stated that eating cilantro regularly removes heavy metals from the body.
pre treating your soil with a flush of hydrogen peroxide will remove most cadmium. the key is prevention. i would not recommend inorganic nutes to anyone now as they contain cadmium. if you flush your soil, or grow in soiless ie coco perlite vermiculite peat... and using aerated teas this shouldnt be a problem. it is mainly an issue for hydro growers and those using soil with inorganic nutes , specifically monoammonium phosphate. heres a pic of the effects of h2o2 on removal of cadmium:
 

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applepoop1984

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PH is Ph, is Ph. Not much has changed in those intervening years.

In any case, the introduction of cadmium into the soil in the above study was not via fertilizers or others, but prepared solutions of cadmium oxide and cadmium nitrate. Solution means that the ions are readily available for plant uptake, and not being pulled from the actual soil. That is where pH comes in: the pH must be lowered to a point where the cadmium ions in the soil (not in an an aqueous solution) are available to uptake by the roots.

Again, apples and oranges. You cannot continue to bring up unrelated studies to prove a point, it is very poor science.
then what about this study?

"The effects of different cadmium concentrations [17 mg(Cd) kg−1(soil) and 72 mg(Cd) kg− 1(soil)] on Cannabis sativa L. growth and photosynthesis were examined. Hemp roots showed a high tolerance to Cd, i.e. more than 800 mg(Cd) kg−1(d.m.) in roots had no major effect on hemp growth, whereas in leaves and stems concentrations of 50 – 100 mg(Cd) kg−1(d.m.) had a strong effect on plant viability and vitality. For control of heavy metal uptake and xylem loading in hemp roots, the soil pH plays a central role. Photosynthetic performance and regulation of light energy consumption were analysed using chlorophyll fluorescence analysis. Seasonal changes in photosynthetic performance were visible in control plants and plants growing on soil with 17 mg(Cd) kg−1(soil). Energy distribution in photosystem 2 is regulated in low and high energy phases that allow optimal use of light and protect photosystem 2 from overexcitation, respectively. Photosynthesis and energy dissipation were negatively influenced by 72 mg(Cd) kg−1(soil). Cd had detrimental effects on chlorophyll synthesis, water splitting apparatus, reaction centre, antenna and energy distribution of PS 2. Under moderate cadmium concentrations, i.e. 17 mg(Cd) kg−1(soil), hemp could preserve growth as well as the photosynthesis apparatus, and long-term acclimation to chronically Cd stress occurred."

still think you shouldnt flush?
 

brotherjericho

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then what about this study?

"The effects of different cadmium concentrations [17 mg(Cd) kg−1(soil) and 72 mg(Cd) kg− 1(soil)] on Cannabis sativa L. growth and photosynthesis were examined. Hemp roots showed a high tolerance to Cd, i.e. more than 800 mg(Cd) kg−1(d.m.) in roots had no major effect on hemp growth, whereas in leaves and stems concentrations of 50 – 100 mg(Cd) kg−1(d.m.) had a strong effect on plant viability and vitality. For control of heavy metal uptake and xylem loading in hemp roots, the soil pH plays a central role. Photosynthetic performance and regulation of light energy consumption were analysed using chlorophyll fluorescence analysis. Seasonal changes in photosynthetic performance were visible in control plants and plants growing on soil with 17 mg(Cd) kg−1(soil). Energy distribution in photosystem 2 is regulated in low and high energy phases that allow optimal use of light and protect photosystem 2 from overexcitation, respectively. Photosynthesis and energy dissipation were negatively influenced by 72 mg(Cd) kg−1(soil). Cd had detrimental effects on chlorophyll synthesis, water splitting apparatus, reaction centre, antenna and energy distribution of PS 2. Under moderate cadmium concentrations, i.e. 17 mg(Cd) kg−1(soil), hemp could preserve growth as well as the photosynthesis apparatus, and long-term acclimation to chronically Cd stress occurred."

still think you shouldnt flush?
What about it?
 

Impman

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This thread blows. RIU deleted all my posts on Thermoperiodism. This thread blatantly disregards thermoperiodism which is KEY to flowering dense, frosty buds. This stupid posts is a copy of Ed Rosenthals BS guide to not growing anything but your power bill
 

brotherjericho

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I personally do not flush because I grow mostly organic. I say "mostly" because not everything I use is OMRI :-P. But I really do not see the need for flushing if you are doing soil and chemicals, not for removal of heavy metals. You really cannot properly flush out heavy metals that are not in solution already, and you won't get them into the leaching water using just acetic acid. Hopefully if your soil is limed all you'll do is give a low pH bath to the roots.
 

brotherjericho

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If you really think about it, flushing to remove heavy metals is a waste of time. If there are heavy metals in your liquid nutes, they will be available for the plant immediately. All a flush might do is remove what's left after the plant has taken them in. Furthermore, when you flush, the plant will then suck the life out of the fan leaves where much of the metals get stored, thus potentially infusing your buds with the crap. So a heavy flush might not be all that great, where this area is concerned.

The best measure, then, is to find clean nutes and growing medium if heavy metals concern you. Flushing is going to do next to nothing.
 

applepoop1984

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I personally do not flush because I grow mostly organic. I say "mostly" because not everything I use is OMRI :-P. But I really do not see the need for flushing if you are doing soil and chemicals, not for removal of heavy metals. You really cannot properly flush out heavy metals that are not in solution already, and you won't get them into the leaching water using just acetic acid. Hopefully if your soil is limed all you'll do is give a low pH bath to the roots.
flushing with plain water in clay soils shows that up to 52% can be removed with just water. most do not grow in clay but it is a good litmus test for flushing as it has very poor drainage and the negative charge that will attract these undesirable heavy metals.

"RESULTS AND ANALYSIS Extraction Using Water . Table 1 presents the measured pH and redox potential as well as the calculatedpercent removal of Cr, Ni, and Cd for both kaolin and glacial till using the differentwater extractants. The measured pH values of kaolin were less than 3.5 using allthree types of water. Even though the pH was below 3.5, Cr may have partiallyexisted as Cr(OH)3 due to its high concentration (1.32 X 10'3 M) (Pourbaix, 1974).The presence of Cr as insoluble Cr(OH)3 may be responsible for less than 50%removal of Cr in kaolin. Other studies have shown that Cr adsorbs strongly to soilsurfaces resulting in low removal using water (Ososkov and Bozzelli, 1994). Theremoval of Ni and Cd ranged from 69 to 87% and 47 to 52%, respectively, forkaolin. The higher removal of Ni when compared with Cd may be due to competi-tive adsorption of these metals to the negatively charged clay particle surfaces and/or metal hydroxides. The measured pH values of glacial till were greater than 7.0using all three water extractants. At such high pH conditions, Cr, Ni, and Cdprecipitate as hydroxides/carbonates, thereby preventing removal of these metals"

in short we can conclude that flushing soil with a low ph water before initial planting can remove up to 52% of cadmium.

extraction using acids
"table 2 shows the measured pH, redox potential, and metal removals from both kaolin and glacial till using the two acids at different concentrations. It should benoted here that lower concentrations of phosphoric ‘acid were used when comparedwith the concentrations of acetic acid. Being triprotic and relatively strong, lowconcentration of phosphoric acid lowers the soil pH; however, being monoproticand weak, acetic acid requires higher concentrations to decrease the soil pH.Higher concentrations of both acids were used for glacial till to overcome its highacid buffering capacity. All of the selected acid concentrations resulted in pHvalues less than 5 in both soils. It should be noted here that phosphoric acid andacetic acid may also behave as complexing agents; therefore, the metal removaldepends on solubilization of metal hydroxides/carbonates due to lowering of pH aswell as on the formation of metal complexes (Stumm and Morgan, 1996). In kaolin, Cr removal ranged from 3 to 8% using acetic acid and 2 to 11% usingphosphoric acid. As stated earlier, about 50% of the Cr was removed using water(Table 1); thus, the use of acids reduced the Cr removal. Nickel removal variedfrom 35 to 47% using acetic acid and from 42 to 65% using phosphoric acid.Cadmium removal varied from 32 to 38% using acetic acid and 35 to 40% usingphosphoric acid. Slightly higher removal of both Ni and Cd was achieved usingphosphoric acid. The removal of Ni and Cd was lower when compared with theremoval achieved using water. Increased acid concentrations did not increase metal
removal in kaolin. The presence of phosphoric acid or acetic acid along with thechloride ions in porewater may have caused the metals (Ni, Cd, and Cr) to combinewith the phosphate ions or chloride ions to form complexes (e.g., N i3(PO4)2, NiCl2,CdPO4, and CdCl2) leading to lower removal efficiencies when compared withthose obtained using water alone. The effect of acids on metal removal in glacial till was different from thatobserved in kaolin. The Cr removal increased with an increasing concentration ofacids; 11 to 43% using acetic acid and 1 to 43% using phosphoric acid. Similarresults were observed for Ni and Cd. The Ni removal ranged from 19 to 48% usingacetic acid and 15 to 44% using phosphoric acid. The Cd removal ranged from 36to 45% using acetic acid and 9 to 36% using phosphoric acid. Metal removalincreased with the use of acids when compared with using water. The acidsdecreased the soil pH values to 2 to 4.8, causing solubilization of metal hydroxideslcarbonates (Griffin et al., l977a,b). Unlike kaolin, the formation of metal com-plexes with the phosphate ions, chloride ions, or other naturally occurring ions inglacial till is difficult to analyze accurately. Therefore, the effects of such metalcomplexes on the removal efficiency are difficult to quantify."

this shows that although only 8% was removed, acetic acid is useful for removing up to 43% of other heavy metals.



in conclusion apparently flushing with plain water can remove up to 52% of cadmium and various percentages of other undesireable contaminants in clay soils. water is cheap and so is vinegar there is no reason not to flush your soil before planting and the added use of hydrogen peroxide during everywatering will help remove any left over in the soil. the problem occurs when you use inorganic nutes that have cadmium. the use of h2o2 can remedy this but i dont see the point in using inorganic nutes, youre polluting unnecessarily and increasing the uptake of cadmium.
 

brotherjericho

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flushing with plain water in clay soils shows that up to 52% can be removed with just water. most do not grow in clay but it is a good litmus test for flushing as it has very poor drainage and the negative charge that will attract these undesirable heavy metals.
Are we still talking about container plants or are you still moving the goal posts?
 

brotherjericho

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Plus, while you're on a cadmium kick, shouldn't you be warning people to not use kelp meal? Very high in cadmium. For instance, Dyna-Gro Bloom has .2 ppm Cd, while Down to Earth Kelp Meal has 1.6 ppm, and E.B. Stone Kelp meal has 2.8 ppm!

I guess the lesson is don't use kelp meal?
 

applepoop1984

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Are we still talking about container plants or are you still moving the goal posts?
it was in sealed glass to insure equilibrium of all contaminants. the media was then filtered ina centrifuge ensuring the highest accuracy. this test is bullet proof. clay is a soil type that readily attracts these heavy metals and the fact that plain water coudl have this much of an impact speaks volumes on the benefits of flushing.


"MATERIAL AND METHODS Batch tests were performed according to the ASTM Standard D3987 to determinethe removal of Cr, Ni, and Cd from two different clayey soils using variousextracting solutions (ASTM, 1996). Soils Two clayey soils, kaolin and glacial till, were used in this study. Kaolin was obtainedfrom the American Clay Mineral Society. It is a low buffering soil consisting ofmainly kaolinite clay mineral (l00% fines). Glacial till was obtained from a site nearChicago, Illinois. It is a high buffering soil consisting of 31% quartz, 13% feldspar, 35% carbonates, 15% illite, 4 to 6% chlorite, 0.5% vermiculite, and trace amounts of smectite. The high carbonate content of this soil is mainly responsible for the highacid buffering capacity. In terms of grain sizes, glacial till consists of 16% sand and84% fines. The initial average pH values measured according to ASTM D4972(soilzwater ratio 1:1) were 5.0 for kaolin and 8.0 for glacial till. The kaolin is free oforganic matter, while the glacial till contains 2.8% organic matter (ASTM D2974).The cation exchange capacity is 1.6 meq/100g for kaolin and 18.0 meq/100 g forglacial till (Method 9080 in USEPA, 1986). The detailed test procedures and prop-erties of these soils were reported by Reddy et al. (1997). Contaminants The soils were spiked with Cr(III), Ni(II), and Cd(II) to simulate typical electro- plating waste constituents. Chrornic chloride, nickel chloride, and cadmium chlo- ride were used as sources of the Cr, Ni, and Cd, respectively, for both soils. Thesoils were spiked by adding these chemicals dissolved in deionized water to the air-dried soils. The resulting moisture contents were 35% for kaolin and 25% forglacial till. After the preparation of the contaminant-spiked soils, they were placedin sealed glass bottles and refrigerated. The soils were equilibrated for at least 2weeks. The initial contaminant concentrations were measured based on the USEPAacid digestion procedure followed by analysis with atomic absorption spectropho-tometer (USEPA, 1986). The concentrations of Cr, Ni, and Cd based on the dry soilweight were 684 mg/kg, 340 mg/kg, and 230 mg/kg in kaolin and were 764mg/kg, 414 mg/kg, and 246 mg/kg in glacial till, respectively

Extraction was performed with a liquids to solids ratio (L/S) of 10:1. Themixture was stirred constantly for 1 h using a magnetic stirrer, and then thepH and redox potential of the soil slurry were measured using a digital pH/ORP meter. It should be noted that equilibrium conditions may not exist after 1 h of mixing (Griffin et al., l977a,b); however, the 1 h mixing time was selected to investigate the easily removable Cr, Ni, and Cd fractions and tocompare the relative removal efficiencies by various extractants. The soilsolids were separated by centrifuging at 4000 rpm for 10 min and thenfiltering using a Whatman No.1 filter paper. The supernatant was analyzedfor Cr, Ni, and Cd concentrations using an atomic absorption spectrophotom-eter according to USEPA methods 7190, 7520, and 7130, respectively (USEPA,1986). All tests were performed in duplicate in order to ensure the reproduc-ibility of the test results."

"Plus, while you're on a cadmium kick, shouldn't you be warning people to not use kelp meal? Very high in cadmium. For instance, Dyna-Gro Bloom has .2 ppm Cd, while Down to Earth Kelp Meal has 1.6 ppm, and E.B. Stone Kelp meal has 2.8 ppm!

I guess the lesson is don't use kelp meal?"


ECO-NEREO KELP .2-1-1 LIQUID FERTILIZER Date Sampled: 4 /9 /2009
Arsenic
0.509
Cadmium
0.08
Cobalt
0.16
Lead
1.6
Molybdenum
0.08
Nickel
0.32
Selenium
0.02
Zinc
<< < < < < 17.6


the lesson here is do your research and make your own decisions. and why are you comparign a bloom nutrient with a source of trace?
 
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