The Best Nutrient for Aeroponics?

oregon boy

oregon boy

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I think I've narrowed it down to using either Advanced Nutrients , or Dutch Master Gold. I'm using mist sprayers so I'm looking for the one that is least likely to clog my system up. Am I dreaming or is there such a nutrient out there? I've been told to stay away from one part and organic nutrients.
 
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HSA

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Oregon Boy:
I think there's a lot of good nutes on the market now but the important thing seems to be how we use them. I'll take this opportunity to put in a plug for Technaflora's "Recipe for Success," which it truly seems to be. Especially since I just laid in a new supply for the coming year. And no, I don't get any thing from them but good advice and I've been using their nutes exclusively for the last couple of years. And I'm very happy with the results.
I gave up on A/G's nutes for what we grow but they're fine for my wifes kitchen herbs. In a liquid form almost any brand should be fine for aeroponics if they'll stay that way. I noticed that A/G's new liquid nutes seem to start to solidify right there in the bag. A friend had some nutes that had almost thickened to a gell and I suspect the next step would have been rock hard. This would be something for you to consider.
They all seem to have the basic plant requirements covered and the other ones I've seen had accompanying lighting suggestions listed as well.
Now you have to understand that I'm an Aerogardener and we're not true aeroponics even though that's where everyone tries to file us on these forums. We're an active hydroponics system and our nutes are aireated as they're dripped down on the roots from the planting deck nozzles. We also add extra aireation with an aquarium pump and an air stone in the reservoir. But we have a lot less problems with nozzle stoppages. You might want to have a heart to heart talk with the nutes manufacturer you plan to use and see if they recommend an inline filter to keep your nozzles clear.
 
gigabyteC2D

gigabyteC2D

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I have grown with all three types, plus TechnaFlora and also one other organic system. After trying all of these in Aero with the same strains and same environmental conditions I feel like I have had a good comparison, in all aspects.

Here's my ratings:

The organic stuff (I can't even remember the name) just did NOT work for Aero, since it would grow slime and other microbes in the tank and on the roots. I guess they are supposed to do that.... but the plants didn't grow nearly as fast or get as high of a yield.

TechnaFlora
This seemed to work OK, and I think that you may experience some microbial growth in the root systems as I did. Basically how I think of it is any slime or murky-ness is not good since it is severely limiting the amount of oxygen and nutrients that the roots can uptake. This is the point of growing aero in the first place! Yields and growth rate were about that of hydro.

Advanced
They were great in almost all aspects but JHC they are expensive! I don't think I saw a noticeable benefit from all of those costly micro-nutes either, though I only went one run with these guys by the book.

DutchMasters
Pretty expensive but worth it is seems! The roots in this grow were BEAUTIFUL and the plants grew like rockets. No slime or filth, and they were economical to boot. I think that this is a good choice and I would use them again! Yields were THC laden, though they didn't yield a ton.

Canna
They are what I use now, and they are great. I like that they are easy to use since I grow a lot of plants and that cuts down on maintenance. They are also a fair price with different micro-nutrients and I feel like they actually work! the plants grow vigorously, and I have achieved the largest yields out of them all with no sacrifice in potency. On one plant that was 18" in height when I flowered her, she grew to yield BY HERSELF almost 22 oz! :hump: I was shocked and I am continuing to use them today.

Please let me know what you use, I would love to see comparions of other nutes. Peace!:joint:

PS here is some of the final product :)
 

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jokerrg25

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what products of canna do you use those pics looked great i was gonna buy advanced nutrients but you got me thinking
 
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zar82

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advance all the way. ive used gh had decent luck with it. Tried super natural and kept getn nute lock up. tried organics and cant keep ph stable. Ive had best lick with advance
 
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Krazyie Fosho

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dont waste your money on neuts you dont need additives are just a money sink whole go with the Lucas formula its everything your plant needs i use GH micro and bloom at 8ml gal micro 16ml gal bloom thats it i also use a addback formula to always keep my res topd off and at a stable ppm ph also with ro water 8-16 always comes out 5.8 ph nice and its all the plant needs no shit ton of neuts that is just a waste of money.Also u can use the Lucas formula with Maxibloom 7g per gallon is pretty close and finally flora nova is the Lucas formula in a bottle but it leaves a smudge kinda shit in the res so its not good for aero btw u can use this formula from veg till flush.When the plants are smaller u just cut the dose down quarter to half to full 8/16 or the 7g of maxi u can also use the adv neuts micro and bloom i belive but i stick to GH cheap stable and great results i have wasted so much money on additives its not funny and it was for no good reason but to waste money my plants have never been so green and so happy and keeping the ppm and ph stabe threw the grow with the adv method shows even better results and the money i save can be used on better shit then water in a bottle that pretty much dont do anything that the lucas forula gives for more info and to ask lucas questions himself just type in ask lucas in google.
 
xochilives

xochilives

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GrimChaos said:
i have used GH befor with ok results, but after doing some research i am going to be growing with Advanced Nutrients this round for my cheese grow. here is a link to a nice study video http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lvq1RZkzw6Y&feature=related This video is not of an aeroponics grow study, but im guessing the outcome would be near the same.
however, i must agree that AN is very expensive!
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I saw that video, years ago, if you believe that video is real you should watch that one about the knives that never get dull, they love ppl like you.
 
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jsnnurse06

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I have been using the botanicare pro grow/ pro bloom with liquid karma and calmag additives, no clogs yet they seem pretty water soluable
 
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ChicagoMagic

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That video really kicks ass with that sweet guitar intro hahaha If someone had a infomercial selling dull knives I'd buy them if that gnarly ass guitar was playing the background.
 
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googolplexs

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I didn't see the dick come back, I don't think it matters, maybe someone will benifit from Dick's thread. I'm using techniflora, but I think I is going to change to Canna, for that big harvest and robust veg. Must use the root excelarator also.
 
Brainy

Brainy

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Maxibloom from GH. And the Maxigrow makes them EXPLODE in veg. And 50 ml Clonex / 5 gallons R.O. and here we grow. I've played around with FF, Botanicare, and Technaflora, but i am onto production now! I spend more on r.o.ing my city water than on nutrients. Amazed! And what a lil prick!
 
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Remain Calm

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googolplexs said:
I didn't see the dick come back, I don't think it matters, maybe someone will benifit from Dick's thread. I'm using techniflora, but I think I is going to change to Canna, for that big harvest and robust veg. Must use the root excelarator also.
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Confirmed. The dick may have not benefited from the info provided, but I plan to. I'm in the late veg stage of my first grow with 2 plants: scrog under compact fluorescents; potting soil; weak Miracle Grow. I know it's not optimal but I needed to break through the inertia of Researching Forever For Fucking Perfection. I've already learned a lot from my simple setup and am starting to put together a small (6 plant) aeroponic box. I've got some small sample bottles of Gen. Hydroponics which will be enough for one or two crops and will let me know if it will be a problem with my emitters.

Thanks for the info, and also too fuck that fucking whining prick oregon boy as well.
 
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indrhrvest

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oregon boy said:
I think I've narrowed it down to using either Advanced Nutrients , or Dutch Master Gold. I'm using mist sprayers so I'm looking for the one that is least likely to clog my system up. Am I dreaming or is there such a nutrient out there? I've been told to stay away from one part and organic nutrients.
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We've been conducting actual independent HPA research and to date we've been using standard, off the shelf liquid nutrients. We have not been sponsored by any company and have purchased all products through standard retail methods. We've used Advanced, Botanicare and House & Garden to date. All the products we've used have grown high quality produce. We've done no control testing to compare performance. So I can't offer any comments on which nutrient performs better. They've all done great. What I can comment on is the residue and filter maintainence which is most likely the more important aspect in a HPA system.

Advanced Sensi with PH Perfect A&B and Botanicare Cal-Mag using RO water. We never had to use any buffers, the PH was always stable. This combination fouled our screen and media filters and the screens had to be cleaned weekly. The hoses for the air stones, PH, temp and EC probes all developed a feathery biological build up. The reserviors developed a slight light brown surface scum build up. Our aeroponic chambers also had the same build up. We had no nozzle issues, but did have to clean filters often.

Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Grow Single Part, Liquid Karma and Cal-Mag using RO water. We needed to use PH buffers, but the PH was relatively stable once set. This combination fouled our screens, but not as often as the Advanced Nutrients. The hoses and probes did not develop any biologicial build up, but did develop a heavy scum. The reserviors also developed a heavier scum build up and our aero chambers developed a quite a bit of biological build up. We also had no nozzle problems and the Botanicare seemed to require less mechanical maintainence, but did require a little more effort when cleaning the tanks and trays.

House and Garden Hydro A&B and Botanicare Cal-Mag using RO water. This mixture requires substantialy more base buffering than the Botanicare nutrients, but PH is stable once set. So far we have had ZERO filter issues and very little scum build up. We haven't started our actual grow yet, but we've been running the system for about 10 days just conducting system tests. So we don't have long term results yet, but so far the H&G line is running far more cleaner than AN or Botanicare. We have plans to also test Canna and GH in future grows.

Our Test Facility..

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Mike Young

Mike Young

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indrhrvest said:
We've been conducting actual independent HPA research and to date we've been using standard, off the shelf liquid nutrients. We have not been sponsored by any company and have purchased all products through standard retail methods. We've used Advanced, Botanicare and House & Garden to date. All the products we've used have grown high quality produce. We've done no control testing to compare performance. So I can't offer any comments on which nutrient performs better. They've all done great. What I can comment on is the residue and filter maintainence which is most likely the more important aspect in a HPA system.

Advanced Sensi with PH Perfect A&B and Botanicare Cal-Mag using RO water. We never had to use any buffers, the PH was always stable. This combination fouled our screen and media filters and the screens had to be cleaned weekly. The hoses for the air stones, PH, temp and EC probes all developed a feathery biological build up. The reserviors developed a slight light brown surface scum build up. Our aeroponic chambers also had the same build up. We had no nozzle issues, but did have to clean filters often.

Botanicare Pure Blend Pro Grow Single Part, Liquid Karma and Cal-Mag using RO water. We needed to use PH buffers, but the PH was relatively stable once set. This combination fouled our screens, but not as often as the Advanced Nutrients. The hoses and probes did not develop any biologicial build up, but did develop a heavy scum. The reserviors also developed a heavier scum build up and our aero chambers developed a quite a bit of biological build up. We also had no nozzle problems and the Botanicare seemed to require less mechanical maintainence, but did require a little more effort when cleaning the tanks and trays.

House and Garden Hydro A&B and Botanicare Cal-Mag using RO water. This mixture requires substantialy more base buffering than the Botanicare nutrients, but PH is stable once set. So far we have had ZERO filter issues and very little scum build up. We haven't started our actual grow yet, but we've been running the system for about 10 days just conducting system tests. So we don't have long term results yet, but so far the H&G line is running far more cleaner than AN or Botanicare. We have plans to also test Canna and GH in future grows.

Our Test Facility..

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Hmm, that's good to know. I started out using H&G, and had a good experience with it, but ended up switching up to dyna gro because I heard great things about it. As far as price and ease of use go, DG is where it's at. But I still have some H&G, and will likely switch back to it now, hearing what you just said about buildup.
 
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