Day 1 of flower!!!! Finally get to see what l.a conf is all about

I went with the 800w's because I just wanted more surface area covered by the lights. Also I was a bit worried about the design of the lights, that's 3 400 watt ballast all running to a single 14g( I think) wire plug in. I felt one that was running for a while and it was pretty darn warm. I don't know if your math is off but, my room is sealed and the 18,000btu ac will bring the temp down to 76deg if I want, I run it at 82-85 with co2 at 1500ppm. I also have 2 dehumidifiers running which make a lot off heat and the c02 burner although its water cooled.
 

chazbolin

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I went with the 800w's because I just wanted more surface area covered by the lights. Also I was a bit worried about the design of the lights, that's 3 400 watt ballast all running to a single 14g( I think) wire plug in. I felt one that was running for a while and it was pretty darn warm. I don't know if your math is off but, my room is sealed and the 18,000btu ac will bring the temp down to 76deg if I want, I run it at 82-85 with co2 at 1500ppm. I also have 2 dehumidifiers running which make a lot off heat and the c02 burner although its water cooled.
The plants look good. I went back and double checked my math on the temps which led me to go back to their specs to see what the recommended area coverages are for their products and how many lights/lamps it takes to provide that coverage. Here's what I found:

The Parlux spec for the single 400 watt light is 47.2" (L) x 11.8" (W) estimated to cover a 25 sq ft area and a VEL or Pupil reading *92,883 which would be like a lumen output of the lamp.
The Parlux spec for the 800 watt light which consists of two 400 watt tubes sharing the same housing is 47.2" (L) x 22" (W) with a VEL reading of 185,776 (double that of the single 400) and will cover a 50 sq ft area. For the single 800 watt light to cover a 50 sq ft area you would have to raise the light since lamp orientation has not been adjusted or canted to throw light over the claimed 50 sq ft area.

To raise the lamp for coverage you lose intensity at the canopy. I noticed by your fixture layout you kept the 800 at the same height as your 400's and you did not adjust the spacing to take advantage of the 'wider area coverage', which tells me you're just running putting more heat into the room with greater intensities under the 800 than you would have under the 400's. So unless you're getting double the flowering sites and yield under the 800 I don't see why you wouldn't just be better off with their single 400 lamp.

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* The problem with this VEL value is that on the next page they have a chart where they show VEL (Visually Effective Lumens and Pupil Lumens are the same thing as a measurement of a lamps intensity) they show as a Pupil Lumen per Watt that is listed as 150 PL/W (fourth line down on the top chart). So if you take their 150 Pl/W (which isn't relevant to plant light anyway) and carry it out with the wattage of a 400 watt lamp (150 x 400 = 60,000 VEL) you are way off the 92,883 VEL as stated on the spec sheet. On the 800 watt light the order of magnitude is increased in that the 150 x 800 = 120,000 VEL not the 185,776 VEL as shown in the specification.

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Both of these intensity values can't be right. One has got to be wrong and that will definitely have an impact on temps by the number of lights/lamps for the recommended area coverage
 

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The salesman that sold them to me was a pretty cool guy and had been using them for awhile, he just asked me " how many 1k how lights would you run in the room?" I said probably 9 and he said there ya go that's what's I would do. More the better
 
Yeah never gets above 83 lights on 74 lights out. They have not been drinking a lot of nutes. I fill the res completely with about 650 ppm of nutes they drink about half the res in 24hr which I think is about 80-100gal. My ppm will rise to about 780 and ph is always at 6.0 if I try to lower it it would raise the ppm almost 100, then within a day right back to 6.0. I wish I could push them more but they just won't drink the nutes atleast nothing above 600. Around 600 the ppm never changes when water leaves drops.

i have been letting them drink until about 6" left of water and then I fill and top up with nutes, every two weeks I drain and fill 2x and then add nutes
 

ricky6991

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Id say they deffinetly look hot... someone i know had temps at like 84 from week 1 of flower to about week 6 of flower an i went into the room an the buds were so small it was crazy... i gave him the clones so i know what plants should look like an they were tiny compared to normal. I gave him money for portable ac and put temps at about 77 consistantly and they grow into rocks in the final weeks left they had.

if he just listened to me an got the ac to bring temps down that little bit it wouldve been monster harvest. Moral of story is his temps were not crazy high but still affected growth cause he had no co2/correct non co2 temps.

room itself looks awesome though.
 

PurpleBuz

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I am running co2 at 1350ppm and temps stay at 82 maybe a little spike when lights come on maybe to 85
sounds like you have a great grow. The only thing that I can think that might help is getting more red/deep red and far red in the light spectrum. I haven't seen an spd for these lights, but I'm guessing its low in deep red (660nm) and almost no Far Red (730nm). Easiest way to do that is to custom some cheap leds to supplement.
 

ASMALLVOICE

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Stunning Work indeed M8.

Many Kudos for you efforts. :weed:

Lord help me if I ever get that much space to grow in...........I can dare to dream.........lol

Peace and Great Grows

Asmallvoice
 
sounds like you have a great grow. The only thing that I can think that might help is getting more red/deep red and far red in the light spectrum. I haven't seen an spd for these lights, but I'm guessing its low in deep red (660nm) and almost no Far Red (730nm). Easiest way to do that is to custom some cheap leds to supplement.
Oh and about the lights, wait until you see my next run.......the new lights are going to be amazing!!!!!
 
ill have more info in a few days but its the latest bulb they have, I guess are 4x better then the bulbs I have. The owner said hes going to swap them out for me, I guess the bulb I have are more of a finishing spectrum more for the last couple weeks. Im chopping down in a couple days!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! looks like everything is turning out great for me
 
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