side lighting

fir3dragon

Well-Known Member
I'm currently using a 3x3 tent with a 600w hps i'm sexing my bag seeds at the moment.

i was thinking once the plants get bigger will the bottom buds still suffer like they did with my 400w hps?

do any of you use side lighting with the hps in a tent? what lights should i get if any at all? cfl? small led panels? a t5 fixture? temps are a max of 80, but usually at a steady 76 lights on.

only time 80 comes in is if its hot out and i live up north and it certainly isn't hot out anymore.

any advice among this is appreciated i just want to get bigger buds then 400w... the bottom ones were not even worth keeping..

I think i should also add that this is my first run with a 600w, just got it before this grow but i want to make the best out of it.

i'm using a shit ass cooltube with shit light spread and i WILL be getting a blockbuster 6 after this grow if i get enough buds to sell a ounce to get one.
 

justanotherbozo

Well-Known Member
i grow in a 4 x 4 around a single 600 barebulb vertical style and while i admit the lower buds are mostly only good for trim, aka bubble hash, i've still not bothered with side lighting.

frankly, if your exhaust fan is good enough i'd suggest you stack the 400 below the 600 which would give you 1000 total watts but spread more efficiently with two points of light.

btw, if you are unfamiliar with vertical growing let me know and i'll point you at some info that will make clear just how much better it is over horizontal growing.

peace, bozo

ps: here's a couple pics of my setup.









 

justanotherbozo

Well-Known Member
I think i should also add that this is my first run with a 600w, just got it before this grow but i want to make the best out of it.

i'm using a shit ass cooltube with shit light spread and i WILL be getting a blockbuster 6 after this grow if i get enough buds to sell a ounce to get one.
...just so you know, i routinely get 12 to 15 zipz per cycle with my setup and that's without an expensive hood or cooltube, neither of which is necessary.

trust me, go vert or go home, lol.

peace, bozo
 

fir3dragon

Well-Known Member
...just so you know, i routinely get 12 to 15 zipz per cycle with my setup and that's without an expensive hood or cooltube, neither of which is necessary.

trust me, go vert or go home, lol.

peace, bozo
never did vertical, never searched into it either. my exhaust is a 6 inch, but my tent i screwed up and cheaped out on and i have to vent into the same room. i have plans on getting another tent with the blockbuster or just waiting because my temps arent a issue so im not really worried about it

forgot to add, i dont got a extra hood or socket to add the 400w i never even though of doubling them
 

justanotherbozo

Well-Known Member
...here man, go read this and you'll quickly become a convert, vertical more than doubles the size of your canopy because rather than just being below the bulb, it surrounds it.

Benefits of Vertical Growing

oh, and my 4 x 4 space is a walkin closet that i built a false front for and my exhaust is also a 6", the CanFan with the 3 speeds and the way i have it set up is the fan sucks the exhaust out the top front while the intake is at the bottom front and the grow is exhausted into the same, air conditioned room that the intake air is drawn from, ...my electrical bill is kinda high but that's the cost of doing business as it were and still WAY less than what i was spending on weed back before i started growing my own.

...here's a few construction shots to show how i set it up.







...here you can see i built a false floor to provide a channel for the intake air to flow through.







...here you can see i was originally trying to run 10 plants per cycle but that has been whittled down to 8, all in 6liter hempy-buckets with straight coco as the grow medium and with hydroton for drainage in the bottom.



peace, bozo

go read that thread man and you'll see you can keep the couple hundred you would have spent on that Blockbuster in your pocket.
 

fir3dragon

Well-Known Member
...here man, go read this and you'll quickly become a convert, vertical more than doubles the size of your canopy because rather than just being below the bulb, it surrounds it.

Benefits of Vertical Growing

oh, and my 4 x 4 space is a walkin closet that i built a false front for and my exhaust is also a 6", the CanFan with the 3 speeds and the way i have it set up is the fan sucks the exhaust out the top front while the intake is at the bottom front and the grow is exhausted into the same, air conditioned room that the intake air is drawn from, ...my electrical bill is kinda high but that's the cost of doing business as it were and still WAY less than what i was spending on weed back before i started growing my own.

...here's a few construction shots to show how i set it up.







...here you can see i built a false floor to provide a channel for the intake air to flow through.







...here you can see i was originally trying to run 10 plants per cycle but that has been whittled down to 8, all in 6liter hempy-buckets with straight coco as the grow medium and with hydroton for drainage in the bottom.



peace, bozo

go read that thread man and you'll see you can keep the couple hundred you would have spent on that Blockbuster in your pocket.

good shit man. thanks for the images and the link. i will read up. more opinions are appreciated. i got a 5x4 closet that i got my 3x3 tent in. it has a window built into it as you can see in my journal. i would just either need to paint, or get more poly
 

fir3dragon

Well-Known Member
one question with the vertical growing. if i use my 3x3 tent how can i keep the plants from touching the bulb? i was thinking of getting one of them tomato things and putting wire around it and hanging my bulb in there. will that work?
 

justanotherbozo

Well-Known Member
one question with the vertical growing. if i use my 3x3 tent how can i keep the plants from touching the bulb? i was thinking of getting one of them tomato things and putting wire around it and hanging my bulb in there. will that work?
yeah, although a chicken wire cylinder around the bulb might work better, there are many who do it that way.

...personally, i use the W.o.W method that i learned from Marlo on a different site, ...Wall of Weed is what it stands for and if you look at the first picture i posted you can see the plastic green fencing i stapled to the walls of the grow and that provides me with a way to anchor the plants to the wall in a vertical SCROG type setup, i use pipe cleaners to hold the plants in place.

...my grobro is struggling to match my output but he is an organic guy by nature so he resists doing certain things and as a result my yields are almost double what he gets in the same space and with the same 600 watts, ...and anchoring his plants to the wall is something he still is resisting, lol, ...he'll come around.

...hell, here is a better shot of that fencing without the plants in the way.


...and the pipe cleaners, lol, they are sold as arts and crafts supply, it was like a thousand of them for like 10 or 15 bucks delivered
.

peace, bozo
 

Green Thumb MN

Active Member
P8290403.jpg

I have 4 T5's in the corners of my tent and it seems to help with keeping the plants short and bushy. My first grow, and my main light is LED so not the same situation but....

P9060436.jpgP9060435.jpg
 

Adjorr

Well-Known Member
t5's make great side lighting, they have a wide coverage area and decent penetration. They come in 2' 3' and 4' lengths so you can get whatever size fits your space, longer bulbs are higher wattage.
 

fir3dragon

Well-Known Member
yeah, although a chicken wire cylinder around the bulb might work better, there are many who do it that way.

...personally, i use the W.o.W method that i learned from Marlo on a different site, ...Wall of Weed is what it stands for and if you look at the first picture i posted you can see the plastic green fencing i stapled to the walls of the grow and that provides me with a way to anchor the plants to the wall in a vertical SCROG type setup, i use pipe cleaners to hold the plants in place.

...my grobro is struggling to match my output but he is an organic guy by nature so he resists doing certain things and as a result my yields are almost double what he gets in the same space and with the same 600 watts, ...and anchoring his plants to the wall is something he still is resisting, lol, ...he'll come around.

...hell, here is a better shot of that fencing without the plants in the way.


...and the pipe cleaners, lol, they are sold as arts and crafts supply, it was like a thousand of them for like 10 or 15 bucks delivered
.

peace, bozo
how would i do that in a tent? i could tie it to the base poles. this vertical is looking real good and is convincing me to switch....

what type of fan do you got on the ground blowing up? i got a big ass wind machine fan, but that thing takes up my whole tent. if i painted the closet, and used the tent for veg or whatever i could use it but isnt a 5x4 closet a little big for a 600w? and where do you get that socket at? i was just going to take mine off my cooltube, but i dont think it would be as vertical as yours. im might do the chicken wire idea just to ensure it doesnt touch. another thing, if i used the whole closet, i could do your netting idea.
 

fir3dragon

Well-Known Member
From what I read 3x3 with a vert 600 is tough without bleaching.

I'm seriously considering painting the closet walls taking everything out and growing 6 trees in 5 gallon buckets or 3 trees in 10 gallon tubs... Any ideas or opinions on this? With my current setup the closet is 65 degrees but the tent doesn't go over 80. I should be able to bare bulb it with them temps. Not to mention winters coming so I should be able to tackle it. But during winter I can't run ac so ill take it out and use outside air I got 6 inch fan, another 6 inch fan and filter and a 4 inch fan and filter I have a portable ac, but I don't use it because the hose clips are broke that holes the hose to the back of the portable so ill just use the thing that goes in the window to exhause the portable for my ducting to attach in the winter. Opinions on this?.

Not sure about the netting and how that works would I get excellent yield without it? Normally with my 400w I smoke the bud before its time to harvest again so I'm trying to maximize yield.

While thinking, how would 3 plants in 20 gallon tubs do? My closet has a big opening and I don't got a door I just hang a thick blanket there. BUT I'm sure I can get a door to put there, and hang the cover in the inside. The window is on the right side. So I can't stuff a bunch of plants on the right side because of the ac. It's a 10k btu so cooling shouldn't be a issue.


Another issue I just thought of is if I use those huge tubs... How am I going to catch the run off?
 

justanotherbozo

Well-Known Member
how would i do that in a tent? i could tie it to the base poles. this vertical is looking real good and is convincing me to switch....

what type of fan do you got on the ground blowing up? i got a big ass wind machine fan, but that thing takes up my whole tent. if i painted the closet, and used the tent for veg or whatever i could use it but isnt a 5x4 closet a little big for a 600w? and where do you get that socket at? i was just going to take mine off my cooltube, but i dont think it would be as vertical as yours. im might do the chicken wire idea just to ensure it doesnt touch. another thing, if i used the whole closet, i could do your netting idea.
...if you can use the closet to flower in and the tent to veg in that would be ideal, especially if you wanted to run any kind of perpetual, you'd just have to give the setup some thought because you have to have the airflow right or it'll overheat. ...and yeah, if you do that then you can just paint the closet and staple the plastic fencing and it's fencing not netting, nets wouldn't be stiff enough to support all the heavy colas.

From what I read 3x3 with a vert 600 is tough without bleaching.
...yeah man, some of the shit you read in the books and shit isn't as reliable as you'd think, i know in my own case i've been doing things people said couldn't be done for years, as an example here is a picture of a couple White Rhino's i grew in 2liter Coke bottle hempy-buckets that yielded 2 zipz each so that's a quater elbow in 4 liters of medium, the Folgers cans are just to catch runoff.




I'm seriously considering painting the closet walls taking everything out and growing 6 trees in 5 gallon buckets or 3 trees in 10 gallon tubs... Any ideas or opinions on this? With my current setup the closet is 65 degrees but the tent doesn't go over 80. I should be able to bare bulb it with them temps. Not to mention winters coming so I should be able to tackle it. But during winter I can't run ac so ill take it out and use outside air I got 6 inch fan, another 6 inch fan and filter and a 4 inch fan and filter I have a portable ac, but I don't use it because the hose clips are broke that holes the hose to the back of the portable so ill just use the thing that goes in the window to exhause the portable for my ducting to attach in the winter. Opinions on this?.
...yeah man, that's exactly what i do, i run the AC in the summer months and i open the window in the winter.

...if i remember right you said there was a window in the closet itself, if so you want to try and not use it but to treat is as just a wall because venting directly outside gives you a FLIR detectable heat signature and venting into an air conditioned room won't so if you can, vent into the room.

Not sure about the netting and how that works would I get excellent yield without it? Normally with my 400w I smoke the bud before its time to harvest again so I'm trying to maximize yield.
...i've been at this hobby studying and learning and experimenting for nearly 8 years now man, and i can say for sure that switching to the WoW technique very definitely increased my yield, significantly.

...frankly, if you grow 8 plants, 2 on a side, in 2 gallon coco hempy buckets and you feed KISS style and you don't upgrade to a 1000 but rather stick to your 600 i don't see any reason you can't pull 8 - 10 zipz your first try, then, after a few cycles you'll up that to 12 - 15 and if you upgrade to a 1000 or you add another 600 stacked below then you should see upwards of 20 zipz and more per cycle, you'll be growing for real bro.

While thinking, how would 3 plants in 20 gallon tubs do? My closet has a big opening and I don't got a door I just hang a thick blanket there. BUT I'm sure I can get a door to put there, and hang the cover in the inside. The window is on the right side. So I can't stuff a bunch of plants on the right side because of the ac. It's a 10k btu so cooling shouldn't be a issue.


Another issue I just thought of is if I use those huge tubs... How am I going to catch the run off?
...if you MUST use that window i'd say it's safe to use for AC but maybe not, if you can create some kind of false front so you can add a door of some kind and then vent out that false front into the other room you'd be much safer, ...i know LEO seems less inclined these days to mess with mj but you can't depend on that, you can't risk your freedom on the goodwill of the man, too often that leaves you out in the cold.

...and, if you grow hempy style, which if you don't know already is passive hydroponics, then you wouldn't need any pots bigger than 2 or 3 gallons and if you look at my pics you'll see one that shows my pots sitting empty in green bins, those are to catch the runoff and i got them at the Dollar store, in fact that's where i got the pots as well, i just went to my local Dollar store and wandered around looking for pots and runoff bins and what you see is what i got, lol.

...here's a link to Mobius' hempy thread where you can find all kinds of info on hempys and just how versatile they are and you'll probably see them that just can't help but complicate things, lol, but hempy's work extremely well and they are almost foolproof, absolutely the easiest most relaxed way to grow, bar none. ...i've been told that some of those complications are improvements but i've not wasted any time trying them believing that if it ain't broke, don't fix it, lol, ...and the original hempy method is so brain dead simple it just can't fail unless you almost TRY to fuck it up!

World Of Hempy


...for real man, the 3 most important things i've learned is first, grow vertical, W.o.W style, second do it hempy style and third, feed KISS style, those three things changed everything for me, now it's easy peasy lemon squeezy and has been for the last 2 3 years.

peace, bozo
 

fir3dragon

Well-Known Member
...if you can use the closet to flower in and the tent to veg in that would be ideal, especially if you wanted to run any kind of perpetual, you'd just have to give the setup some thought because you have to have the airflow right or it'll overheat. ...and yeah, if you do that then you can just paint the closet and staple the plastic fencing and it's fencing not netting, nets wouldn't be stiff enough to support all the heavy colas.

...yeah man, some of the shit you read in the books and shit isn't as reliable as you'd think, i know in my own case i've been doing things people said couldn't be done for years, as an example here is a picture of a couple White Rhino's i grew in 2liter Coke bottle hempy-buckets that yielded 2 zipz each so that's a quater elbow in 4 liters of medium, the Folgers cans are just to catch runoff.




...yeah man, that's exactly what i do, i run the AC in the summer months and i open the window in the winter.

...if i remember right you said there was a window in the closet itself, if so you want to try and not use it but to treat is as just a wall because venting directly outside gives you a FLIR detectable heat signature and venting into an air conditioned room won't so if you can, vent into the room.

...i've been at this hobby studying and learning and experimenting for nearly 8 years now man, and i can say for sure that switching to the WoW technique very definitely increased my yield, significantly.

...frankly, if you grow 8 plants, 2 on a side, in 2 gallon coco hempy buckets and you feed KISS style and you don't upgrade to a 1000 but rather stick to your 600 i don't see any reason you can't pull 8 - 10 zipz your first try, then, after a few cycles you'll up that to 12 - 15 and if you upgrade to a 1000 or you add another 600 stacked below then you should see upwards of 20 zipz and more per cycle, you'll be growing for real bro.

...if you MUST use that window i'd say it's safe to use for AC but maybe not, if you can create some kind of false front so you can add a door of some kind and then vent out that false front into the other room you'd be much safer, ...i know LEO seems less inclined these days to mess with mj but you can't depend on that, you can't risk your freedom on the goodwill of the man, too often that leaves you out in the cold.

...and, if you grow hempy style, which if you don't know already is passive hydroponics, then you wouldn't need any pots bigger than 2 or 3 gallons and if you look at my pics you'll see one that shows my pots sitting empty in green bins, those are to catch the runoff and i got them at the Dollar store, in fact that's where i got the pots as well, i just went to my local Dollar store and wandered around looking for pots and runoff bins and what you see is what i got, lol.

...here's a link to Mobius' hempy thread where you can find all kinds of info on hempys and just how versatile they are and you'll probably see them that just can't help but complicate things, lol, but hempy's work extremely well and they are almost foolproof, absolutely the easiest most relaxed way to grow, bar none. ...i've been told that some of those complications are improvements but i've not wasted any time trying them believing that if it ain't broke, don't fix it, lol, ...and the original hempy method is so brain dead simple it just can't fail unless you almost TRY to fuck it up!

World Of Hempy


...for real man, the 3 most important things i've learned is first, grow vertical, W.o.W style, second do it hempy style and third, feed KISS style, those three things changed everything for me, now it's easy peasy lemon squeezy and has been for the last 2 3 years.

peace, bozo
Well if I use the whole closet, I was going to use my big ass wind machine box fan blowing up on the light like I've been reading to cool it down. Could you link me to the fencing? Perpetual setup would be nice. I might set the tent up in my basement but with winter I'm not sure how that's going to work because the basement is always ice cold and for seeds/starters they need a little bit of heat (70 degrees or so) I would think. So your saying its possible I could vertical in the 3x3 tent? Good rig with the coffee cans to catch run off. I figure in summer, with the ac in I won't need to vent outside because right now the temps are 65 is that cool enough to vertical in summer? What are your temps? How do you do the WoW (wall of weed right?)? What is KISS style? These are terms I never heard of so bare with me. I never grown in coco only soil I'm not sure what hempy is either. Ill stick with the 600 but Ifi upgrade I'm going to get another 600 because its the most effective (from what I read ) . I don't use the window to vent out of, what I was saying was put the portable ac thing there in the winter to get a 6 inch opening to attach my ducting to and bring winter air in without having to rig it. I'm going to get one of them bifold closet doors to use on the front of the closet. I see now you mentioned hempy is passive hydroponics , I never tried hydro so should I just stay soil? I don't really have problems with soil. Good to know about the green bins for run off. Ill take a look and see what dollar store has. If it helps, I've done 5 complete rows. Im on my 6th right now.
 

Sheesh420

Member
t5's make great side lighting, they have a wide coverage area and decent penetration. They come in 2' 3' and 4' lengths so you can get whatever size fits your space, longer bulbs are higher wattage.
BINGO!!! If you're going to use T5 as side lighting in flower room, I'd recommend going with veg bulbs (blue spectrum) instead of the flower or (red spectrum) bulbs. It helps development under the canopy. I've seen good results and other people are reporting good results with this method.
 

fir3dragon

Well-Known Member
BINGO!!! If you're going to use T5 as side lighting in flower room, I'd recommend going with veg bulbs (blue spectrum) instead of the flower or (red spectrum) bulbs. It helps development under the canopy. I've seen good results and other people are reporting good results with this method.
Thanks for the advice. Bozo is convincing me to go vertical.. I'm seriously considering it. I mean, all I can do is try it and see if any problems occur
 

justanotherbozo

Well-Known Member
Well if I use the whole closet, I was going to use my big ass wind machine box fan blowing up on the light like I've been reading to cool it down. Could you link me to the fencing? Perpetual setup would be nice. I might set the tent up in my basement but with winter I'm not sure how that's going to work because the basement is always ice cold and for seeds/starters they need a little bit of heat (70 degrees or so) I would think. So your saying its possible I could vertical in the 3x3 tent? Good rig with the coffee cans to catch run off. I figure in summer, with the ac in I won't need to vent outside because right now the temps are 65 is that cool enough to vertical in summer? What are your temps? How do you do the WoW (wall of weed right?)? What is KISS style? These are terms I never heard of so bare with me. I never grown in coco only soil I'm not sure what hempy is either. Ill stick with the 600 but Ifi upgrade I'm going to get another 600 because its the most effective (from what I read ) . I don't use the window to vent out of, what I was saying was put the portable ac thing there in the winter to get a 6 inch opening to attach my ducting to and bring winter air in without having to rig it. I'm going to get one of them bifold closet doors to use on the front of the closet. I see now you mentioned hempy is passive hydroponics , I never tried hydro so should I just stay soil? I don't really have problems with soil. Good to know about the green bins for run off. Ill take a look and see what dollar store has. If it helps, I've done 5 complete rows. Im on my 6th right now.
...sorry man, i didn't mean to hit you with information overload, i know it's a lot to take in at once so take your time and research everything you are considering from several sources before you commit, better to spend your time studying and doing homework than to tear down because you trusted bad advice.

...that's kinda why i try always to provide links to MY sources where i learned a particular thing, there is a world of difference between knowing how to do a thing and knowing how to teach that thing so i try to let folks learn from the same places i learned from, believe me, in almost every case the things i recommend come from those with much more experience than i possess.

so, with that in mind here are a few more links for you to study, ...and when you go into these threads, especially the long ones, don't just read the information but also visit some of the grows of the most respected posters so you can see the actual results of the advice they give, ...lol, that's kinda why i post so many pictures, so you'll know i'm not just talking, this is stuff i've actually done.

...first up is a thread to a collection of links to some of the best DIY projects on the net on pretty much all grow-related topics, ...my motherbox build is on the list i'm proud to say, lol, the point being that if you need to build something, look here first for how to do it.

DIY~ LINK-O-RAMA

...this next is to the simplest, most inexpensive feeding regimen there is and while it starts talking about MaxiBloom, which works great btw, once you get into the thread you'll find many that use other similar nutrient lines. (btw, KISS just means Keep It Simple Stoner)

*The K.I.S.S. Method*

...this next is to a very long but still active thread discussing hempy-buckets which are a passive form of hydroponics that is actually an adaptation of ancient Roman technology, ...it discusses the use of a perlite/vermiculite mix as the medium although i and many others prefer coco for it's ease of use and it's results, if and when you are ready to give them a try i can help with details and more links, lol.

Official Hempy Bucket Thread

...and this one is to Marlo's W.o.W. thread where you will learn about that technique and how he runs it, with dual 400s on a yoyo light mover, in a vary narrow space under his stairs, believe me, if you get enough fan a 600 in a 3 x 3 is no big whoop.

THE WoW THREAD.

...like anything else there is a trade off of sorts and while i know there are other methods that might increase my yields they all require more labor than i'm willing to exert, my op almost runs itself and provides way more than i can consume by myself, fortunately for me, i have people close to me to share it with.

have fun with your research and if you approach it with the right mindset you will enjoy your study's immensely because there is some amazing shit in those threads and the growthreads of the more accomplished posters in those threads so it's almost like looking at treasure maps that, if you follow them, will lead you to your own treasure.

peace, bozo

...oh yeah, that fencing is easy to find at places like Lowes and HD, just go to the back of the outside garden section and i promise you you will find it.
 

fir3dragon

Well-Known Member
...sorry man, i didn't mean to hit you with information overload, i know it's a lot to take in at once so take your time and research everything you are considering from several sources before you commit, better to spend your time studying and doing homework than to tear down because you trusted bad advice.

...that's kinda why i try always to provide links to MY sources where i learned a particular thing, there is a world of difference between knowing how to do a thing and knowing how to teach that thing so i try to let folks learn from the same places i learned from, believe me, in almost every case the things i recommend come from those with much more experience than i possess.

so, with that in mind here are a few more links for you to study, ...and when you go into these threads, especially the long ones, don't just read the information but also visit some of the grows of the most respected posters so you can see the actual results of the advice they give, ...lol, that's kinda why i post so many pictures, so you'll know i'm not just talking, this is stuff i've actually done.

...first up is a thread to a collection of links to some of the best DIY projects on the net on pretty much all grow-related topics, ...my motherbox build is on the list i'm proud to say, lol, the point being that if you need to build something, look here first for how to do it.

DIY~ LINK-O-RAMA

...this next is to the simplest, most inexpensive feeding regimen there is and while it starts talking about MaxiBloom, which works great btw, once you get into the thread you'll find many that use other similar nutrient lines. (btw, KISS just means Keep It Simple Stoner)

*The K.I.S.S. Method*

...this next is to a very long but still active thread discussing hempy-buckets which are a passive form of hydroponics that is actually an adaptation of ancient Roman technology, ...it discusses the use of a perlite/vermiculite mix as the medium although i and many others prefer coco for it's ease of use and it's results, if and when you are ready to give them a try i can help with details and more links, lol.

Official Hempy Bucket Thread

...and this one is to Marlo's W.o.W. thread where you will learn about that technique and how he runs it, with dual 400s on a yoyo light mover, in a vary narrow space under his stairs, believe me, if you get enough fan a 600 in a 3 x 3 is no big whoop.

THE WoW THREAD.

...like anything else there is a trade off of sorts and while i know there are other methods that might increase my yields they all require more labor than i'm willing to exert, my op almost runs itself and provides way more than i can consume by myself, fortunately for me, i have people close to me to share it with.

have fun with your research and if you approach it with the right mindset you will enjoy your study's immensely because there is some amazing shit in those threads and the growthreads of the more accomplished posters in those threads so it's almost like looking at treasure maps that, if you follow them, will lead you to your own treasure.

peace, bozo

...oh yeah, that fencing is easy to find at places like Lowes and HD, just go to the back of the outside garden section and i promise you you will find it.
Thanks for the links. I appreciate it. I'm def considering this vertical. So far the threads I been reading are excellent threads. I go page by page reading all the information on them. The problem with the fencing is its seasonal where I live, so pretty soon they won't sell soil or anything summer related.. I've never used coco, and I don't really like the idea of verm /perlite so any links on coco is appreciated as well.

Also I'm still a little lost on the hempy concept. Do I water like normal with soil or what?
 

justanotherbozo

Well-Known Member
Thanks for the links. I appreciate it. I'm def considering this vertical. So far the threads I been reading are excellent threads. I go page by page reading all the information on them. The problem with the fencing is its seasonal where I live, so pretty soon they won't sell soil or anything summer related.. I've never used coco, and I don't really like the idea of verm /perlite so any links on coco is appreciated as well.
...here is a link to a 5kg bale at Amazon for $16.55 and it's eligible for free shipping on orders over $25.00 so if you ordered 2 of them the shipping is free, that would give you more than enough coco for at least the rest of this year, if that is you mainly follow my lead, if you start filling 5 gallon buckets with coco you can go through it pretty quick.

COCOTEK 5KG BAIL


oh yeah, one 5kg bale is about the size of 2 boxes of cereal glued together, not exactly but sorta, anyway, one bale, once you add water, expands to fill a fairly large bin and that coco fills 8 of my 6liter hempys with enough left for maybe another run, so close to 2 cycles per bale and you want a second bin for the coco you take out of your pots after harvest so you can use it again, you can actually use the stuff 3 or 4 times once you learn how to work with it,

...and here is a link, also at Amazon and also eligible for free super saver shipping to a roll of plastic fencing that looks like one heck of a deal, it's a 4ft x 100ft roll so more than enough for your needs and it looks plenty sturdy enough for your needs as well and for only $31.91.

4-by-100-Foot Warning/Safety Barrier

so that would be 2 bales of coco and 1 roll of plastic delivered to your door for less than 70 bucks, not bad.

...you're gonna want a bag of grorocks or hydroton or lavarock or even 3/4 inch gravel for the bottoms of the buckets as well but you should find that locally because the shipping on something heavy like a bag a rocks will kill you, lol.

...oh, and i know that the local stores everywhere are seasonal, Lowes is Lowes, mostly, no matter where but it's still warm enough that you should find that fencing locally, heck, even in winter they usually just leave the shit outside in the same place anyway, ...grorocks you'll need to go to a groshop or some kind of specialty gardening center maybe, the gravel or lavarock you can get at Lowes.

peace, bozo
 
Top