How to get more couchlock

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eaturveggies

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Got an NL+AF that is 13 weeks old. I thought it would definitely be ready to harvest by now, but even though the buds are pretty bulked up, very few of the trichomes are amber. Tried a sample this week and it gave me too much "up" and little body effect (which I really am after). Due to life, this thing MUST be harvested next week. Is there anything at all I can do to squeeze some couchlock out of this crop?
 
lime73

lime73

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not really, you can't force a plant to ripen...it just takes time.

hope she puts out a few amber by next week for yah!
 
Dogenzengi

Dogenzengi

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Harvest if you have to and trade for better bud and then make hash from the trim.
or you could harvest all the Trichomes and just make hash.
QWISO!
 
Indoor Sun King

Indoor Sun King

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you say you MUST harvest....are you pressed for the dry/cure timeframe as well.... can you afford the time to let her sit in the dark for a few days?

.....you want to slow down your drying process as much as possible, that way you will get more trichromes turning amber.
 
Dogenzengi

Dogenzengi

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The turning amber is due to the light degrading the Trichomes.
Maybe you could push a few extra hours of light??
Just a guess!
 
Scroga

Scroga

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I thought kool bloom is promoted as a "ripener"?
Shock, lockout ect can cause flowers to finish early..
 
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eaturveggies

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Indoor Sun King said:
you say you MUST harvest....are you pressed for the dry/cure timeframe as well.... can you afford the time to let her sit in the dark for a few days?

.....you want to slow down your drying process as much as possible, that way you will get more trichromes turning amber.
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I'll have an additional week after harvest to let them dry before jarring them. Any good tutorial that you like for doing this right?
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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Amber trichomes are CBN, not CBD... CBN is Cannabinol which is degraded thc and is very low in potency. You want as much cloudy as possible.
 
Indoor Sun King

Indoor Sun King

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shim....he stated he wants that "couchlock" type of stone that amber trichromes provides...not my cup of tea, but clearly his preference.
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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mr2shim

mr2shim

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Indoor Sun King said:
my understanding is milky for the buzz high....amber for that sit in the couch stone
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Read the link in my previous post, I used to think that as well. Just like flushing does something. tons and tons of misinformation around the cannabis community.
 
mr2shim

mr2shim

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Indoor Sun King said:
yes, I have read it many times....milky is my preference.... but amber delivers a different buzz that some prefer
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It's not that simple...

http://www.sky.org/data/grow/c2.html

1. (-)-delta 9-trans-tetrahydrocannabinol ((There are several numbering systems used for cannabinoids. The system in this book is most common in American publications and is based on formal chemical rules for numbering pyran compounds. Another common system is used more by Europeans and is based on a monoterpenoid system which is more useful considering the biogenesis of the compound.)) This (delta-9 THC) is the main psychotomimetic (mindbending) ingredient of marijuana. Estimates state that 70 to 100 percent (121) of the marijuana high results from the delta-9 THC present. It occurs in almost all Cannabis in concentration that vary from traces to about 95 percent of all the cannabinoids in the sample. In very potent varieties, carefully prepared marijuana can have up to 12 percent delta-9 THC by dry weight of the sample (seeds and stems removed from flowering buds). (("Buds" of commercial marijuana is the popular name given to masses of female flowers that form distinct clusters.))
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3. Cannabinol - CBN is not produced by the plant per se. It is the degradation (oxidative) product of THC. Fresh samples of marijuana contain very little CBN but curing, poor storage, or processing such as when making hashish, can cause much of the THC to be oxidised to CBN. Pure forms of CBN have at most 10 percent of the psychoactivity of THC (192). Like CBD, it is suspected of potentiating certain aspects of the high, although so far these affects appear to be slight (183,185). CBN seems to potentiate THC's disorienting qualities. One may feel more dizzy or drugged or generally untogether but not necessarily higher. In fact, with a high proportion of CBN, the high may start well but feels as if it never quite reaches its peak, and when coming down one feels tired or sleepy. High CBN in homegrown grass is not desirable since it represents a loss of 90 percent of the psychoactivity of its precursor THC.
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2. Cannabidiol - CBD also occurs in almost all varieties. Concentration range from nil (119,138), to about 95 percent of the total cannabinoids present. THC and CBD are the two most abundant naturally occurring cannabinoids. CBD is not psychotomimetic in the pure form (192), although it does have sedative, analgesic, and antibiotic properties. In order for CBD to affect the high, THC must be present in quantities ordinarily psychoactive. CBD can contribute to the high by interacting with THC to potentiate (enhance) or antagonise (interfere or lessen) certain qualities of the high. CBD appears to potentiate the depressant effects of THC and antagonise is excitatory effects (186). CBD also delays the onset of the high (183) but can make it last considerably longer (as much as twice as long). (The grass takes a while to come on but keeps coming on.) Opinions are conflicting as to whether it increases or decreases the intensity of the high, "intensity" and high" being difficult to define. Terms such as knock-out or sleepy, dreamlike, or melancholic are often used to describe the high from grass with sizeable proportions of CBD and THC. When only small amounts of THC are present with high proportions of CBD, the high is more of a buzz, and the mind feels dull and the body de-energised.
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The marijuana high is a complex experience. It involves a wide range of psychical, physical, and emotional responses. The high is a subjective experience based in the individual - one's personality, mood, disposition, and experience with the drug. Given the person, the intensity of the high depends primarily on the amount of THC present in the marijuana. Delta-9 THC is the main ingredient of marijuana and must be present in sufficient quantities for a good marijuana high. People who smoke grass that has very little cannabinoids other then delta-9 THC usually report that the high is very intense. Most people will get high from a joint having delta-9 THC of .5 percent concentration to material.
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You can pretend it's that simple but the reality is, it's much more complex than "omg amber for couch lock cloudy for heady.."

science > silly ideas pot heads came up with that spread like wildfire.
 
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CaretakerDad

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You want to harvest when some of the trichs are amber (I prefer about 10%) to get the maximum couchlock effect for that strain. Trichomes ripen at different rates and what you are trying to accomplish by allowing some to be amber is the maximum amount that are cloudy at harvest. There is also synergy as mentioned before between many products, CBD, CBN, and THC among them that produces the desired effects.
 
greenlikemoney

greenlikemoney

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Just do a dry ice bubble bag hash, I can promise you that's gonna give your couch enough gravity to hold you in orbit.
 
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