White Russian Auto - Is it too late?

[Growonya]

Hello,

I have popped this White Russian Auto on Aug 25, 13.



I don't know why it's so small and started to bud already and it's only 5" high.
I think it's obvious I don't want this.

I have heard time in and out that you can flip these back to veg on 24Hr lighting.

Does anyone think it is too late to try to get them to revert back to veg? (I don't even know if there is such a thing)
Can I flip them back into veg 18/6 and will it have a neg effects on the plant's yield?

 

[TDM]

Looks like excessive nutes, i.e., phosphorus which can determine sex despite light exposure. Flush, use a nute that is high in nitrogen, set light 24/7

 

[discofurby]

You can't control flowering/veg of an auto through photoperiod, that's what make it an auto. My guess is your plant is root bound; most people recommend starting autos in their final pots because as soon as they get root bound they'll start flowering.

 

[bioWheel]

Very long stem. Get more light or lower lights. Pot looks big enuf so don't think it's root bound - yet. I'd say repot up to about an inch from the leaves and really get lights close as possible. Get a breeze on that thing too. A good strong one. And you don't need any nutes yet - it can get what it needs from the soil until it really gets going. Early blooming can also be genetic and isn't necessarily a bad thing unless ur going for max yield.

 

[Growonya]

Thanks all three of you. I'm going to repot up higher up to the stem. It's def not root lock cuz I checked..
I didn't know that auto's blow up and get root lock. Interesting.
I have only put in 1ml of nutes to one liter of water. for the past 2 weeks cuz it wasn't getting any bigger.
I want to go for max yield so I'm going to try to veg this back.
I might get a couple of grams from this one... lol (5" tall plant)

I buy all my seeds from Serious Seeds and every one of them pop. They have a very good quality supply.
I made a purchase from a place in the U.K. and their payment name is Herbies-Seeds. Not one of their 10 seeds popped.
Although they did offer to go against their policy, they did send a replacement order which never popped also. I then requested
a full refund to the refund I was offered. Although they did an outstanding job at taking care of their customer, this did mess up my scheduled plan.
I would however do business with them again in hopes the product they sell to me is going to perform like it should.

 

[Mestizomatt]

Yeah sir not enough light...and the light is too far away from your plant. ..because if you started it in August then its the correct time for flower for an auto...you just sold yourself short by trying to stretch the amount of light you had for one plant. ..thats my hypothesis lol

 

[Growonya]

I had them under 24/7 lighting under 2 - 150 watt cfl and about 1 or 2 inches from the light....
Philips DAYLIGHT 150 Watt 6500K CFL.
I'm going to bud one of them and try to veg the other.
I'll have to wait to see what happens I guess.

 

[kingofshiba]

I popped my auto seeds within a few days of yours.. check out my grow journal.. your autoflower is at pretty much the same stage of budding as mine are. As its an autoflower you can't put it back into veg. Looks like your lighting wasn't strong enough to me.

 

[Growonya]

I'm new here and don't know how to access your journal.

 

[kingofshiba]

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/741350-nft-auto-bubble-autoflower-female.html

You can see the difference..

I'm using 2 x 600w HPS for a total of 1200w of lighting. Your plant looks like it only had just enough light to keep it alive. Are your bulbs actually using 150 watts or is that just the equivalent wattage to non energy saving bulbs?? Big difference.. as if they are your true wattage is around 40-50w not 300w.. if you can find the model number for the light I'll be able to tell you for peace of mind

Apart from that I'd always suggest using a HPS light if you can mate.. it makes the world of difference!

 

[aknight3]

yea if it is really an autoflower then you are swcrewed, there is about 1% chance youll be able to get it back to veg...i would suggest either letting it finish or if you need the space then just cut it and throw it in a hash bin or dry it and smoke whats there if your desperate. popping new seeds right now would be a good idea, the longer you wait or let this little guy go the longer itll be til you can get other shit in there.

 

[boohoo85]

get a nice big strong bottle of some think drink it ..get really drunk ..cut em down for get all about it ..go to decent seed bank and get some real cup winners to make up for the lose ...there thats that one sorted ...coz thats what i would do.. i would be so pissed of with that .i would probley leave my girl freind over it lol

 

[Growonya]

Ya I'm not happy about that... I labeled them wrong. I screwed myself in the germination process.
I'm going to get MAYBE 2 - 4 grams from that.
Live and learn.

They are getting really damn fat, nuggy and crystals all over. Small little things... all micro and sh*t....
Damn shame..

 

[Growonya]

Ok, I'm at 14 weeks of my meds growing and here is what we have.




14 weeks.




15 weeks.
This one I'm gonna run for 1 more week then cut it.

 

[Growonya]

Now that I look at them more closely. I'm not sure when they should be cut and dried.
Any advice?

Here is some info, but because my time is out of wack and everything else. I'm not sure when to cut.

A quite uniform final heigth of 70 to 90 cm is normal, but factors like the strength of light a plant receives, or growing in small pots can influence the height a lot. Autoflowering White Russian #1 is not 100% uniform yet. Some plants have an open bud structure and will yield less, but most plants grow more compact buds and yield 10 to 20 grams or more. The more light they receive during their life, the better the endresult will be. All plants will be beautifully covered in a layer of trichomes. Most plants will finish between 70-75 days while some need a little longer, up to 80 days.

 

[Turkilton]

some of the best ways to tell with autos is by the fan leaves and the colour of the pistils.
as some autos can have 100% cloudy trics and stay that way till they die it can cost you a lot to go by the normal way.

fan leaves - all the leaves will wither and die off, they will start to turn yellow 2 weeks away from harvest (time to flush)
Pistils - you'll have 3 'stages' of growth with the bud, you'll have a first push then they'll turn orange, second lot will do the same then the third push comes in and you'll have white hairs everywhere ! once they are mostly red/orange your ready !

good luck man ! and have you got any new pics?

 

[Growonya]

Ya, those two are the most recent pics.
It kills me how screwed up these turned out to be, now it's going to be really tricky (for me) to do this...
This challenge shall be interesting.

 

[Growonya]

Here we are now.
As I said before I'm just using these ones for learning so.....

This one is 1 week ahead of the other.

16 weeks. (most the hairs on this one look orange and drying up, or so it looks)


15 weeks.

I'm not sure where they are at right now but I think it might be a good time to start to just feed them water?

Any ideas?

Please keep in mind how screwed up they are on their time. Veg and flower is way outta wack with these ones.
They are also 10 inches small.

 

[lmoore2680]

They might be small but look good :thumbup:

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[Growonya]

Well, I have learned that a plant is ready when the trichomes are in a state as follows:

Clear Trichnoes = too early
Cloudy/Milky (most) = Up/Head/energetic/rushy high.
Amber (most) = Couchlock high.
1/2 amber 1/2 cloudy = head & body buzz

Advised not to go past 75% amber Trichomes. Best to harvest at 35% - 50% Amber Trichomes.

So it looks like this plant is over shot big time.
I'm at about 90% - 100% Amber Trichomes and just cut them to hang dry.
At least I did flush them for 1 week before they were cut.
I have some doubt that they will be any good for smoking, will give it a go in a few weeks after dried and cured properly.
From the time they really started to bud until now I'm guess was too long and the THC started to get killed off.
Then again I could be right on track, I have no clue.
I'll know on the first burn and keep this updated.