Yeah! It's Bud Worm Season. Pics

Sir Napsalot

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Well, that's one way to take care of those pesky bugs! Spray them with Monterey Insecticide with spinosad and show them who's boss! Just be sure to keep an eye on them and spray once a week until they're all gone. And don't worry, it won't interfere with the taste of your delicious crops or plants. Happy bug-busting!
Are you being sarcastic?
 

brogro

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Chowing down on your buds at this very moment. At least their chowing down on mine. I hit them with some with some BT this evening.

I have a question or two for those who have used BT in the past. Does it effect the quality of the weed. (Taste, Buzz....) And is it really safe for smoking. How long do you have to wait after spraying before you harvest. I've been using BT on my garden for decades without any problems but I always wash the food I grow before I eat it. But I'd have to be crazy to wash my weed before smoking it. Though I could give it a little spray down a few days before harvest. Any suggestions?

Here's some pics of my two plants progress. You can see the damage done to one of the buds and one of our crawly little pests.

If anyone has any idea of the strains I'm growing I'd sure like to know.
Crazy Chester the followed me and he caught me in the bar ...

I haven't had to spray buds. I get out there and spray it as soon as I see eighth to quarter inch long little inchworms. This is just as the pistals (white hairs) are coming up to start a bud. I'm never actually spraying the bud. Can you smoke it without harm to you, I do not know. I do know I keep it in the basement and not in the hot garage because heat will kill those bacterias. How safe is it? You're probably eating it right now it's GMOd into the food you eat. You might be eating more of it than you are Roundup. That's why it's nice to grow your own stuff!
 

BrassNwood

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Crazy Chester the followed me and he caught me in the bar ...

I haven't had to spray buds. I get out there and spray it as soon as I see eighth to quarter inch long little inchworms. This is just as the pistals (white hairs) are coming up to start a bud. I'm never actually spraying the bud. Can you smoke it without harm to you, I do not know. I do know I keep it in the basement and not in the hot garage because heat will kill those bacterias. How safe is it? You're probably eating it right now it's GMOd into the food you eat. You might be eating more of it than you are Roundup. That's why it's nice to grow your own stuff!
Southern California and the moths are thick, and the caterpillars will infest your buds in the thousands. BT Thuricide is destroyed by sunlight in a few hours, so we have to keep spraying weekly to remain protected. I spray weekly from Aug 1st right up to the week of harvest in Oct.
 

sschnei

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there is a new spray with a virus in it like BT to kill budworms. IT was developed to protect cotton and tobacco plants. I also purchased some pheromone traps but this year no moths caught yet. This new product is sold under the name of GemStar LC. Not easy to find totally organic like BT. I am combining both this year since some are reporting some caterpillar's are not killed by BT anymore. My biggest addition to my outdoor garden is a 1 acre dynatrap. So far I have not seem any evidence of budworm but still have a month to go. There are a lot of moths in the dynatrap and no moths in my pheromone trap for the budworm. I will be a real believer in the dynatrap if I have a no worms year. Holding my breath
 

Skopes120

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there is a new spray with a virus in it like BT to kill budworms. IT was developed to protect cotton and tobacco plants. I also purchased some pheromone traps but this year no moths caught yet. This new product is sold under the name of GemStar LC. Not easy to find totally organic like BT. I am combining both this year since some are reporting some caterpillar's are not killed by BT anymore. My biggest addition to my outdoor garden is a 1 acre dynatrap. So far I have not seem any evidence of budworm but still have a month to go. There are a lot of moths in the dynatrap and no moths in my pheromone trap for the budworm. I will be a real believer in the dynatrap if I have a no worms year. Holding my breath
What dynatrap do you have.
 

sschnei

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What dynatrap do you have.
Got it on woot for $79 covers one acre so it is the biggest one they sell. So far been spraying both BT and GemStar LC (virus works like bacteria) together. Dynatrap F13874XL insect trap 1 acre with extended light bulb. I don't want to get carried away yet but I inspect everyday and I have no signs of the budworm. Haven't seen any eggs. Haven't caught any in the pheromone trap but my dynatrap has moths and they are ones that look like the tobacco moth. I did put a pheromone trap inside the trap. I can only hope I'm right and maybe might escape the dreaded worm. good luck
 

BrassNwood

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Never seen any bud worm in personal. Do they really exist?
2012 I harvested and carefully trimmed 5 pounds of primo buds.
That first day just a few caterpillars rappelled down on silk looking for fresher juicy buds. By the next morning there were dozens of all sizes from inch long down to almost too small to be seen hanging down. By day 3 it was a free-for-all with hundreds per hour of them jumping ship faster than I could sweep them away.

When I started to break it down from the branches it was all shot through with mold at every place the caterpillars crapped. I wound up throwing the entire mess out. A total loss.

I wouldn't even try and grow outside without BT Thuricide and a bug zapper. Even when I'm on top of my game I'll find a few spots of sun-dried damage from the ones that got away.
 

BrassNwood

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2012 I harvested and carefully trimmed 5 pounds of primo buds.
That first day just a few caterpillars rappelled down on silk looking for fresher juicy buds. By the next morning there were dozens of all sizes from inch long down to almost too small to be seen hanging down. By day 3 it was a free-for-all with hundreds per hour of them jumping ship faster than I could sweep them away.

When I started to break it down from the branches it was all shot through with mold at every place the caterpillars crapped. I wound up throwing the entire mess out. A total loss.

I wouldn't even try and grow outside without BT Thuricide and a bug zapper. Even when I'm on top of my game I'll find a few spots of sun-dried damage from the ones that got away.
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Even spraying I'll take a bit of damage. This is a prime example of what happens when the caterpillar cuts the bud free, and the sun dries it.
The Bud will tug out with almost zero effort and if I dig enough, I'll find him not far away.
 

smoke and coke

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The rain and humidity has been brutal here, so I decided to move my 2 drenched plants to the garage with a dehumidifier. As I moved them i found a bud worm so I started checking the plants over. I found another very small one and 2 others just above their little poop dropping. Budworms just another thing to add to the stress of outdoor growing.

I learned years ago for vegetables that you want to plant extras because the bugs will get their share.
 

brogro

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I love the humidifier in the garage! Something I haven't thought about. I have put oscillating indoor fans out in the garden and bought a 6' beach umbrella to put over each plant during a rain.
 

smoke and coke

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I love the humidifier in the garage! Something I haven't thought about. I have put oscillating indoor fans out in the garden and bought a 6' beach umbrella to put over each plant during a rain.
I did the umbrella yesterday. Screwed the stand to the deck in case of wind. The plants still got soaked.
 

smoke and coke

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I kept the dehumidifier down to about 45% most of the day and they dried nicely. There isn’t much cfl lighting but better than nothing. They will probably be in the garage until Thursday then put them in the garage at night to prevent the morning dew.
I didn’t put them out until aug. 1st so they didn’t get huge, but i don’t want to be hauling around huge trees. Well maybe I do.

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brogro

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I kept the dehumidifier down to about 45% most of the day and they dried nicely. There isn’t much cfl lighting but better than nothing. They will probably be in the garage until Thursday then put them in the garage at night to prevent the morning dew.
I didn’t put them out until aug. 1st so they didn’t get huge, but i don’t want to be hauling around huge trees. Well maybe I do.

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I think your problem is that come along if I were you I'd get it out of the garage. I'll take it off your hands. Also harnesses aren't good for anything bad luck get that out of there too but that I don't want!
 

obijohn

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I've used spinosad for years. Thrips and whiteflies can't get a foothold and yes, it kills budworms. I spray directly on the buds towards end of the outdoor season. Does not affect taste at all. I do it in the morning so the moisture dries up right away and doesn't cause rot.
 

Dameon187

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in Canada where I am anyway we don't have this problem.u still see the odd Caterpillar around but the moths are done laying eggs by now,lucky i guess.if any one knows about this pls enlighten me!! :)
Yes I was thinking I need to check mine we don't get these in Canada. I live in Atlantic Canada
 

Pungolian

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Found this guy near but not on my plants this morning! Ill bet it could eat a whole bush in a day! First time ive ever seen one, thought it was a grub worm but its actually a silkworm moth.
 

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