Are that Plants saveable?
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MickFoster
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If you don't know much other then coco. I would recommend repotting Into some happy Frog. Gives a good re start and a good bench mark for astarting line to know your soil ph is right there us plenty if nutes for a couple weeks and they will definitely make a change. That's my suggestion
Cheap and pretty good fast and less drastic solution to starting over you can veg anything indefinitely get them in good health and flower them but don't get rid of them you got monthes into that
Cheap and pretty good fast and less drastic solution to starting over you can veg anything indefinitely get them in good health and flower them but don't get rid of them you got monthes into that
OK, whats happy Frog
Its Coco Coir I fed the a bit of Mills Start up, Mills Vitalize, crazy hills grow fertilizer and zyme and cal mag
I measure EC is now around 1.2 but was to high on some, i was struggl9ing with ph but since i read that its not nescesary to measure the Medium instead more the input i now water blind with an PH of 5.8 + crazy hills kick off every second week
will soon post more pictures
i now feed just Water with the cal mag until overfeeding is over (Ifilter the Water before) ithink also they were overwatered so i gave them nothing the last 2 days and they are not close to dry
Its Coco Coir I fed the a bit of Mills Start up, Mills Vitalize, crazy hills grow fertilizer and zyme and cal mag
I measure EC is now around 1.2 but was to high on some, i was struggl9ing with ph but since i read that its not nescesary to measure the Medium instead more the input i now water blind with an PH of 5.8 + crazy hills kick off every second week
will soon post more pictures
i now feed just Water with the cal mag until overfeeding is over (Ifilter the Water before) ithink also they were overwatered so i gave them nothing the last 2 days and they are not close to dry
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They look fine, just look like they were rootbound/def and you repotted them.
At this size they need a lot of feeding, first clue is your leaves turning yellow and stems purple (like you have on most of your stems)
Some look better than the others though.
So, if your in coco, and your starting point is 1.2 ec for let's say a week and they don't improve, move it up gradually until at least the purple stems fade away.
I use Mills often aswell, their vitalize, A+B and Start is all you need to boost them up fast.
I would focus on creating a solid A+B solution and add more Start then usual as they look like they need N.
Don't add cal mag if u use tap water, you can cause a toxic rootzone quick.
Make your pH more close to 6.2.
If you can raise the temps to 28-30c for better transpiration rates and root drying.
They will not drink well until you can supply them with good rootzone conditions.
At this size they need a lot of feeding, first clue is your leaves turning yellow and stems purple (like you have on most of your stems)
Some look better than the others though.
So, if your in coco, and your starting point is 1.2 ec for let's say a week and they don't improve, move it up gradually until at least the purple stems fade away.
I use Mills often aswell, their vitalize, A+B and Start is all you need to boost them up fast.
I would focus on creating a solid A+B solution and add more Start then usual as they look like they need N.
Don't add cal mag if u use tap water, you can cause a toxic rootzone quick.
Make your pH more close to 6.2.
If you can raise the temps to 28-30c for better transpiration rates and root drying.
They will not drink well until you can supply them with good rootzone conditions.
Phytoplankton
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Coco needs to be fed every day! No plain water, except to flush, then feed again immediately afterwards. Don’t let coco get dry, it becomes hydrophobic and is difficult to re-wet. Measure your ec going in, then measure runoff, if it’s significantly higher, you’re overfeeding. You want the runoff a bit lower than what you put in.
Ok yeah, i was fighting with the Grow maybe the guy who sold them gave me unpuffered coco dont know
I flushed them few of them had EC of 1.6 and higher looking to get them to 1,1 to 1.3, a few got the right EC and even doesnt seem to do so well.. so Strange
Ok ya i could try to raise temp higher.. what options are there - raised temp water, heating mat..?
(I am measuring with an bluelab Pulse meter.. the medium)
Its my first time COCO also
yesterday i attached a fogger, they'll surely love it
Its not very good to see there will tomorrow post new pics
+ the other Quuestion will be i have put in 7 new ones hopefully they can catch up, they are on Soil
i'll send new pics tomorrow, or later
I flushed them few of them had EC of 1.6 and higher looking to get them to 1,1 to 1.3, a few got the right EC and even doesnt seem to do so well.. so Strange
Ok ya i could try to raise temp higher.. what options are there - raised temp water, heating mat..?
(I am measuring with an bluelab Pulse meter.. the medium)
Its my first time COCO also
yesterday i attached a fogger, they'll surely love it
Its not very good to see there will tomorrow post new pics
+ the other Quuestion will be i have put in 7 new ones hopefully they can catch up, they are on Soil
i'll send new pics tomorrow, or later
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Smootherpete
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Smootherpete
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Get canna Coco Nutrients, that’s all you really need. It’s worked for me for years. No problems, just water like it’s dirt but with A&B mix. Flush them and start giving Canna if you want to try and save them but you have already stressed them and might get a few seeds in there.
Beeswings
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I was putting one Plant with that strange medium under the shower.. EC doesnt go down .. i tend to think that medium wasnt puffered
when i get them to the right EC they even show signs of overfeeding, i dont think this is normal
The ones without that Medium are doing good
i think i will sort them out
when i get them to the right EC they even show signs of overfeeding, i dont think this is normal
The ones without that Medium are doing good
i think i will sort them out
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i dont understand why i should feed if they got the right EC, wouldnt i overfeed them then?
MickFoster
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Do some research on how to grow in coco. cocoforcannabis.com
Cos coco is hydro an inert media it has to be buffered to even be used it contains only the nutes you give it its not dirt bud why you keep feeding it even if the ec is sweet rn cos in coco it wont stay in that sweet spot as long as in dirt cos dirt has its own nutrients and buffering capacity thats why you keep feeding it
coreywebster
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Unbuffered coco contains all sorts of stuff. But even high quality buffered coco is not blank, it naturally contains a lot of K , which is good.
But it doesn't contain much else.
So that EC is not a full balanced nutrient profile
It's not soil, it requires feeding daily as others have said.
All you need to do is mix up a base nutrient to about 1.2-1.4 ec and ph it to 5.8-6.2 and feed every day in veg and preferably multiple times a day in flower.
Your under LED so you want to be keeping it mid 80s in veg.
With that light I'd be running at 50% or less or raising it , then bumping it to 100% in flower.
All this has been mentioned, but I thought I'd consolidate the important bits.
You really should read the link mick posted.
But it doesn't contain much else.
So that EC is not a full balanced nutrient profile
It's not soil, it requires feeding daily as others have said.
All you need to do is mix up a base nutrient to about 1.2-1.4 ec and ph it to 5.8-6.2 and feed every day in veg and preferably multiple times a day in flower.
Your under LED so you want to be keeping it mid 80s in veg.
With that light I'd be running at 50% or less or raising it , then bumping it to 100% in flower.
All this has been mentioned, but I thought I'd consolidate the important bits.
You really should read the link mick posted.
coreywebster
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Coco is both brilliant and easy to use if you use it properly