1kw bar led

broonski

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hi guys

i know its passed the point of co2 ect but has anyone lit a 4ftx4ft area with a 1kw bar led?

ive got an 8ftx8ft tent and i was wanting 4x1kw in the area

ive been running 3800w of omega g spectra 430w in the area so not a great rise in watts

just want a more even spread rather than multiple hot spots in the middle of the board lights
 
hi guys

i know its passed the point of co2 ect but has anyone lit a 4ftx4ft area with a 1kw bar led?

ive got an 8ftx8ft tent and i was wanting 4x1kw in the area

ive been running 3800w of omega g spectra 430w in the area so not a great rise in watts

just want a more even spread rather than multiple hot spots in the middle of the board lights
No need for 1ks, 4 700s would kill that space Iam lighting a 4x10 with 2 720s an killing it dimmed most of the time.
 
No need for 1ks, 4 700s would kill that space Iam lighting a 4x10 with 2 720s an killing it dimmed most of the time.
im at 8 x 450w board type lights and i want to keep or up the wattage

im killing it also but want a more even spread

4 x 720s would be dropping wattage/light intensity
 
hi guys

i know its passed the point of co2 ect but has anyone lit a 4ftx4ft area with a 1kw bar led?

ive got an 8ftx8ft tent and i was wanting 4x1kw in the area

ive been running 3800w of omega g spectra 430w in the area so not a great rise in watts

just want a more even spread rather than multiple hot spots in the middle of the board lights
Yup, board lights invariably have hot spots. That's part of the design but it also helps lower product cost (R&D costs money). There's also the yield issue because of the PPFD map. :-(

I grow in a 2' x 4' with a variety of lights and went searching for a replacement for my 330watt Growcraft flower light last summer. After lot of searching, the Spider G/SE4500 was my choice.

I realize that you're looking for a 4' x 4' but I think there are a few really good arguments to go with 2 of the Spiders.

A big issue is that two lights allow you to deal with an uneven canopy better than one larger light. That's a personal bias because, when I try to grow more than one plant, I always end up a Twinz grow (from the movie with Schwarzenegger and de Vito).

There's also the redundancy factor but that's not a big issue with modern electronics, until is becomes a big issue, that is.

Re. the 4500 itself—it's got a good spectrum and an excellent PPFD map. The latter was the biggest issue for me. Another factor to consider is that Spider has done a good job with automation/digitial integration. Dunno if that's of value to you but I'm just tossing out ideas.

Another option is the new Migro lights. Historically, Migro lights have been underpowered compared to the other big name vendors but Shane finally got his head around the idea that cannabis loves light (long story) and he's revamped the entire line. I wouldn't use their 240L but the 150 is a game changer in the 2' market and both the 500 and 750 put have excellent PPFD maps.

Another item to consider is that the spectrum has a lot of red in it. That helps increase the PPFD values and I have no doubt that's one reason why that spectrum was chosen. But it also means that you are getting more photons and DLI is what drives growth/yield. The other side of the coin is that you're not getting a lot of blue photons so your plants will tend to be taller than those grown under a light with a more evenly weighted spectrum.

Yes, I pooh poohed the idea of using just one light but, if you're going to go in that direction, those two lights are hard to beat. In terms of automation, I'd suspect that you can run them with AC Infinity or the other smart controllers but the bottom line is that Migro has really upped the ante with those new lights.

Needing CO2? I have been running at 1kµmol average in ambient for a few years and I think that's responsible for some of the minor cosmetic things that I see on some grows but, as I posted in another thread, for me, 18 ounces of "ugly" beats 6 ounces of "pretty".
 
@Delps8 your right about 18 oz ugly beats 6

most of my stuff goes into oil anyways so yield will always trump whatever else

im in a 8foot by 8foot tent so prob just going to change out one 4x4 area at a time to see if these 1k bar lights can grow in that area
 
hi guys

i know its passed the point of co2 ect but has anyone lit a 4ftx4ft area with a 1kw bar led?

ive got an 8ftx8ft tent and i was wanting 4x1kw in the area

ive been running 3800w of omega g spectra 430w in the area so not a great rise in watts

just want a more even spread rather than multiple hot spots in the middle of the board lights
Are you going to run co2 then?
 
The actual reduction in light output (if you believe published figures), from 8x omega 430w vs 4x omega black(720w), would be 9600umol vs 9216umol while saving of 560w

You get better overall coverage, less hot spots and more yield as a result.

Or you could buy a 9th 430w , raise all the board lights and have a better coverage and less hot spots than you would with 8.

There's a point of no increase benefit and if you asked me, you've already passed it.
 
The actual reduction in light output (if you believe published figures), from 8x omega 430w vs 4x omega black(720w), would be 9600umol vs 9216umol while saving of 560w

You get better overall coverage, less hot spots and more yield as a result.

Or you could buy a 9th 430w , raise all the board lights and have a better coverage and less hot spots than you would with 8.

There's a point of no increase benefit and if you asked me, you've already passed it.
aye thats kinda the problem

i have the omega g430 boards which yield well ect but had a 720w original omega bar led but the numbers they produce just dont match up with my par meter . i reckon the umol they say is just blown up with reds
 
aye thats kinda the problem

i have the omega g430 boards which yield well ect but had a 720w original omega bar led but the numbers they produce just dont match up with my par meter . i reckon the umol they say is just blown up with reds
PAR is 400-700 so it's picking up the 660nm "deep red" photons but I know where you're coming from.

If you check out the new lights from Migro, with their excellent PPFD maps, and then check the graphic of the spectrum.


PPFD map in a 4' tent at 20" is "amazing"
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And is this product engineering getting in bed with marketing or just a total coincidence?

All of that red juices the PPFD values but the bottom line is that they are 660nm photons and more photons will lead to more growth and yield so…
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