The Flag

I think it’s abhorrent to burn our flag or even let it touch the ground - but I don’t see how this works or how enforcement holds up. Maybe if non citizens are doing it criminal charges would stick or people like exchange students would get deported. But beyond that it’s probably not going to work
 
I love it when people who wear the flag as a shirt, shorts, or bikini tells us to respect the flag.

Are any of those flags though?

It’s interesting, in Mexico you are not allowed to wear any images of their flag or as you described.
 
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I think it’s abhorrent to burn our flag or even let it touch the ground - but I don’t see how this works or how enforcement holds up. Maybe if non citizens are doing it criminal charges would stick or people like exchange students would get deported. But beyond that it’s probably not going to work

I beg to differ, you "feel" as if it's abhorrent, I feel it's abhorrent that you would want to side line my freedom.
Lots of feelings in Russia are moving here to crush your freedoms.
 
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The Bedford Flag

"Although it is very European in terms of its design, the Bedford Flag is an iconic piece of American history, as the oldest flag the country has ever known. It is a symbol of the Battle of Lexington and Concord, occurring on April 19, 1775, the first military action of the American Revolutionary War, signifying American resilience in what came to be an important showing of strength against the British Army. Carried by the Bedford Minuteman, Nathaniel Page, to the Concord Bridge on April 19, 1775, the beginning of the American Revolution. The flag was likely the inspiration for the second line of Concord Hymn, a poem written by Ralph Waldo Emerson in 1837."

By the rude bridge that arched the flood,

Their flag to April’s breeze unfurled,

Here once the embattled farmers stood,

And fired the shot heard ’round the world.

The Bedford Flag is now used as the official flag of Bedford, Massachusetts.

 
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The Star Spangled Banner Flag
  • It was made in Baltimore, Maryland by flag maker Mary Pickersgill in 1813 after being commissioned by Major George Armistead, commander of Fort McHenry. Original cost: $405.90 (@$11,000 in 2025 bb)
  • The flag flew over Fort McHenry on the morning of September 14, 1814, signaling American victory over the British in the Battle of Baltimore.
  • Of course, the sight inspired Francis Scott Key to write poem published as “The Defense of Fort McHenry” with instructions that it be sung to the tune of “To Anacreon in Heaven,” a popular British song. It was weeks later when it got a new title: “The Star-Spangled Banner.”
  • Original size: 30 feet by 42 feet. The stars were two feet across, stripes were 23 inches wide.
  • Back then, it commemorated America as it was: 15 stars, eight red stripes, seven white stripes.
  • The flag was preserved by the Armistead family as a memento of the battle.
  • It was first loaned to the Smithsonian Institution in 1907 and converted to permanent gift in 1912.
  • It’s only been on exhibit at the National Museum of American History since 1964.
  • A major, multi-year conservation effort launched in 1998. After six years of conservation and restoration, the flag was presented as the centerpiece of the renovated National Museum of American History.
  • Over $58 million has been spent over the years in caring for the flag.
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Prior to extensive conservation(s)
 
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The Iwo Jima Flag(s) Semper Fidelis
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1stLt Harold G. Schrier’s patrol raises the first U.S. flag on Iwo Jima.

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The iconic second Iwo Jima flag is significantly larger and was more visible to the Marines fighting below Mount Suribachi.

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"Joe Rosenthal just came to the top of Mount Suribachi, Iwo Jima, on February 23, 1945 -- the highest point on the island -- when a group of American Marines after heavy fighting just raised a flag of the United States. The flag, however, was too small, so they decided to replace it with a larger one, so it could be seen from much larger distances to boost the morale of soldiers and demoralize the enemies. Six Marines were assigned to put up the larger flag. So Rosenthal positioned himself to have a better framing for the act of flag raising with his big Speed Graphic camera which was actually standard for press photographers at the time. He was there with a marine photographer, Sgt. Bill Genaust, who had a motion picture camera and stood right next to Rosenthal when the flag went up. Rosenthal took one of the most iconic pictures of the Second World War if not the century. "
 
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"Yes, patriotism. We cannot all agree. That is most fortunate. If we could all agree life would be too dull. I believe if we did all agree, I would take my departure before my appointed time, that is if I had the courage to do so. I do agree in fact with what Mr. Skinner has said. In fact, more than I usually agree with other people. I believe that there are no private citizens in a republic. Every man is an official. Above all, he is a policeman. He does not need to wear a helmet and brass buttons, but his duty is to look after the enforcement of the laws.

If patriotism had been taught in the schools years ago, the country would not be in the position it is in to-day. Mr. Skinner
(Charles H. Skinner, who was the State Superintendent of Schools in New York. The two men spoke at the same event in New York City on March 16, 1901, and Twain's comments directly referenced Skinner's speech, bb) is better satisfied with the present conditions than I am. I would teach patriotism in the schools, and teach it this way: I would throw out the old maxim, ‘My country, right or wrong,’ etc., and instead I would say, ‘My country when she is right.’ Because patriotism is supporting your country all the time, but your government only when it deserves it.
So I would not take my patriotism from my neighbor or from Congress. I should teach the children in the schools that there are certain ideals, and one of them is that all men are created free and equal. Another that the proper government is that which exists by the consent of the governed. If Mr. Skinner and I had to take care of the public schools, I would raise up a lot of patriots who would get into trouble with his.

I should also teach the rising patriot that if he ever became the Government of the United States and made a promise that he should keep it. I will not go any further into politics as I would get excited, and I don’t like to get excited. I prefer to remain calm. I have been a teacher all my life, and never got a cent for teaching."
.―Samuel Clemens, "Male Teachers Association of the City of New York Speech", Albert Hotel, March 16, 1901


 
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