check the seed banks for white widow, i have no seeds at this point, ive been doing clones for a long time, the mother is a little over a yr old, if you are in a mmj state you can probly buy w/w seeds at a dispensary, or a clone, if its your first grow just use some bagseed till you get a grip, but white widow, northern lights, are very solid stable strains and grow like muddas.feel free to contact me for advice anytime, are you in a mmj state?