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  1. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    To be clear, I have not said that blue spectrum HPS are the best. Blue spectrum enhanced bulbs are my favorites. Those bulbs are still very red, which is what is needed in bloom. It's just that the older style and modern cheap HPS bulbs lack(ed) any blue. 20 years ago we would add some MH to the...
  2. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    I would be far more likely to try the CMH over any LED settup. At least I know the CMH is going to crank out some lumens. Also, I've actually seen some nice crops come from under the CMH's. All I've seen from LED is some mediocre looking buds, and dozens of pages explaining to me like I'm a 5...
  3. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    The Horti Daylight Blue is a nice light. Only one of my 6 Veg 1000's has that bulb. I put the plants under it just after topping for tighter node spacing. Another fantastic veg light is the Pulse Start by SunPulse. The other 5 of my veg lights burn Pulse Starts in a 6.4K color temp. These lights...
  4. collective gardener

    Completely sealed grow room ventilation help.

    Don't use T-5's for rooting cuts...they're too bright. I use a cheap flouro grow light. Why 96 cuts? What is your total plant count in bloom? It looks like about 100. In that case you just veg 50 plants every 30 days. Feed half the bloom room every 30 days. 2 big T-5's could veg 25 plants each.
  5. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    Hell, No difference in output. They are quite. I like the dimmable feature for after spraying. You can run either MH or HPS bulbs in them, too.
  6. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    If you run out of available amps, but still have space, a flip op is the way to go. I may just build another bloom room and run it on a flip using my existing room's ballasts and power supply. I think a 4 light flip box is around $225.00....far less than 4 new ballasts.
  7. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    I've used Horti's for a dozen years and just switched to Digilux's when I switched to all Digital Ballasts. I have to say that I still think 2 parts HPS and 1 part MH is the best. It's just too much a pain in the ass. I thought of using a Hortilux Daylight Blue just for the last 2 weeks or so. I...
  8. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    I sent em an email offering free meds...haven't heard back. Thank you very much for the lead, though
  9. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    we're running 12 - 1000 watt Digilux's in our bloom room. They're the best bulbs I've ever used. More output than the Eye, and far better output after 6 months of use. They just don't seem to get much dimmer. I've only lost around 5% in 6 months.
  10. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    I'm always leary of sacrificing lumens for spectrum. The LED claims are a perfect example of this. Theoretically 200 watts of LED lighting should do the job of 600 watts of HPS. Well, in theory that's very nice. In reality, that's BS. I'd hate to see you give up the brightness of a 600 in...
  11. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    That is true about the outdoor plants in nature. I know that is doesn't "hurt" the plant to prune it. My plants don't even seem to stunt after a healthy trim back. I've gone at 5' mother plants with hedge cutters, shearing off the top foot of the entire plant. I bloomed that plant a week later...
  12. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    I vote 600's. That will give you 50 watts/sq ft.
  13. collective gardener

    Completely sealed grow room ventilation help.

    What are the dimmensions of the nook? From what I can see, you can pull it off. I would even consider 3 sets of shelves: 2 for the veging plants, each one with 3 - 2' x 4' T-5's...and maybe 1 shelf with 2 - 400 watt MH's for the mothers. Once the mothers have had a few rounds of clones...
  14. collective gardener

    Completely sealed grow room ventilation help.

    I'm a little confused. You say you're getting some mother plants going. So they're going to be in a different room I assume. What do you mean when you say "I'm going to stick to sog"? A Sea of Green just refers to numerous small plants. If you plan to have 36" tall plants you'll need some veg...
  15. collective gardener

    Completely sealed grow room ventilation help.

    Flip grows require a second veg room. I just assumed running 8000 watts that you had a seperate veg room. I would seriously consider breaking that room up into a veg and bloom room(s). You yearly yield will be WAY more running seperate veg and bloom rooms. There's just no other way, in my...
  16. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    I'd say around 4 weeks from when the rooted cut goes into the 4" block. That would include one topping about a week into veg. There's a real "sweet spot" on veg time for us. Too little and the plant only throws about 1.5 ozs. I think the roots need X amount of time to be fully developed. Just a...
  17. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    3 Ozs. is our goal, as well. Right now I'm trying to figure out if I'm better with around 30 - 3 oz. plants per tray, or 45 2 oz plants. Typicall it's easier for me to get weight through more, smaller plants. But, I'm on this trip about using my vertical space. You hit the nail on the head...
  18. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    Wood, It's clear that you have an intimate knowledge of your plants that could never be taught. I have noticed too that supercropping gives you a very sturdy plant. After you've bent, broke, snapped, and cipped, do you remove some of the lower shoots that appear as a response to the training?
  19. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    Wow...I've never seen so many pruners in one place. Should we have a secret handshake? My method is more of gradual accelerating technique. My goal is simply to allow light down to my target growth are throughout the life of the plant. I may take 1 or 2 of the BIG upper fan leaves in...
  20. collective gardener

    20,000 Watt Medical Grow Op Construction

    I don't know about "key to success". It has increased my marketable yield by over 20%. I'm not saying pruning is right or wrong...it just works for me. It also works for the other high wattage commercial and med grows I'm involved in. I would encourage everyone here to try things on their own...
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