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Too true. It's getting sadder and sadder. And what really kills me is that it doesn't matter how much they make. Whether its 10k or 1mil people spend beyond their means and save nothing. Imo the promise of a check from the government if something goes wrong is partly to blame.

No, that's not what that chart proves at all. I'm sorry this is so confusing to you. Now I'll try and make this simple: If a family making 4 million $ a year spends 100% of their income on gas - does that mean a family making $100k/year is going to starve because the person making 4 million...

Whole grow looks great. I'll be tuning in from time to time for sure.

God damn I'm a sucker for root porn. Says damn near as much about a grower as the buds themselves.

Again, read. That chart was posted in response to someone else' posted statistics. They were quoting figures based on the spending rate of a family that makes $60k while we were talking about families making $40k. If you want to argue with the charts figures themselves then go take your...

I attended a University graduation a few months ago and it was astounding. At least 65% of the graduates were in sociology. Which I think is an important field of study for everyone but professionally isn't in huge demand right now...at all...

And how are you tying this in with unemployment benefits? If I choose to go to school for architecture which has something like an 80% unemployment rate. And I end up not being able to find employment in architecture. I should be able to go on unemployment until I can find a position in...

He's expecting something to be handed to him? Yes, he's whiny. Not sure about him being a loser, I've never met him. You cannot blame earnings being correlated to the job being performed.

I hear poor people can't afford the $34 for a drug test that they get reimbursed for if they pass. How are they going to afford the $99 annual fee?

What point are you trying to make in reference to unemployment benefits?

"Most Americans, if offered, without any need to fill the requirements, would take a better job." Yes, I agree. That's a very true statement. :rolleyes:

I love how I went from not a real person to someone you know everything about? We're at 50% unemployment? So if I walk down the street every other family is going to tell me they are unemployed? Dude... really...

You are delusional. And I love that I'm considered not a person in all of this. I've been to grad school, I had to pay for it, I had to get a job, I know people that had go get a job, my wife got a job, my sisters got jobs... I am in no way stating that times aren't tough right now. I'm not...

Huh? Where did you get this assumption from? I'd be much happier if everyone had an education and made tons of money each year. You think that giving welfare to those earning $40k/year is going to make them get better jobs? How am I possibly suggesting that I'm in favor of people being paid...

Realistically the masses live off $50k/year or less. We're not talking theoretically. How are your friend's legally working for $4/hour? Why? You are being flat unrealistic. If you work your ass off you can't get rich? Really? Really? Did you just say that? You can't change your...

That is correct. Although with 40k a year you can afford TV, internet, a computer, a car or two and a cell phone or two - the lifestyle is considerably more comfortable than in the 1920's. Doctor's families don't routinely take $5,000 vacations and yet there's some assumption that a barista's...

This been posted? Credit for finding it goes to ineffablegreen. These are PAR readings, not lumen readings.

Thank you.

Wow... I keep having doubts about my arrays - which I do realize are not as nice as yours, but you keep restoring my faith in them. I hope I have similar results as all that looks great to me. Props.

Wait, so 20 years ago people were running around rioting? I've got to ask the UB question, how old are you? Where are you pulling these "comfortable middle class lifestyles" from? TV? 15% of families lived in poverty last year. These people are surviving. Poverty for two parents and a...