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So no one has heard from Rusty for awhile? I am in the process of making a SLH x WC cross. Will begin testing in a month or so. Sorry everyone is having so many problems.

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Just a small amount of lemon. Give it a week or 2 and I'll check again.

Here is an ELL

The Amish greenhouses have it in my area.They will cut any size you want. You might try places like that.

There is so much "diverse" ancestry in the plants that are grown today, it's hard to tell what a plant will turn out to be, until you actually grow the damn thing.

Another look at the WC

Since the Vero 29 gen 7 and the 3590's came out. The quality is there, just depends on how you want to run them. Soft or wide open. These COBs and the Quantum boards and the newer strip lighting are well worth the $ now. I made sure I bought great heatsinks and great drivers too. That way, I...

Nice lighting setup.

LED's seem to create a slightly different habitat for the plants. When you get it right, it produces nice flower and a lot of it.

I run propane heaters and my CO2 goes through the roof in the winter to a "toxic for plants" level. And me too. I bought a small ceramic heater from Ebay. Only 25.00. 350 to 750 watts, has built in thermostat, and it does a fantastic job. Actually better than my 1500 watt IR cabinet heater.

I am tempted too. The way I run my lights, there is literally no heat that I desperately need in winter.

I had to raise my lights too. I pair my COBs (2 in parallel) and then run in series on 240-2100mA and turn them down to 120 watts on 6 COBs every 8" roughly. Still getting 800 PAR readings at over 20" away. Plants respond beautifully to that amount. As they grow up, increases the PAR value. I...

Me also, I wished I had gotten more from Heisen than just the WC. It was my loss, that WC he has, is one of a kind! That is, those "random" weeks when I had her "1/2 ass'd" dialed in. Can't imagine what it will look like when I get it right. lol

My Cake did the same thing. I finally got it bred and they took. The WC's have been an SOB! lol But i have 2 nice little plants now.

It's all my fault! lol Had ask King to just touch on the VPD subject, and here we are. I was trying to be helpful. I guess I'll keep my VPD to myself and try not to spread it to anyone. lol

When he made that comment, I was ducking behind the keyboard getting out of the way of "wrath from hell" that was about to be unleashed in this thread. I actually felt sorry for him, then I thought, this oughta be good. You're not gonna make me waste my popcorn, are you? lmao Just kiddin' It's...

It's hard to beat a good DIY system if you learn the fundamentals before you start. I think this is my 3rd year using DIY systems. Most of my lights are easily interchangeable. I build one, use it, think of something else, then build another design. Never ends. lol

Ok, I got my bud grown with "green" light only" rolled up, got my popcorn, patiently waiting for Kingrow to get a big dose of "Queen Tang" lmao

As your experience grows, you'll begin to understand what that plant is telling you is wrong or right with it by "subtle" changes in growth and looks. One of the most "common" mistakes a new grower makes is "overwatering" which starts a whole chain of events. This is where the VPD comes in...