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The only reason anyone would need to "train" a plant is if your in a small closet or something. Or if you are just growing a single plant or two in a scrog. Otherwise to me its a waste of time. I think the best way to make your plant grow how you want is simply to top and just remove branches...

I just have 2 lights right now. Running sunshine adv mix. Added castings and perlite. Botanicare and couple other additives. 6 week veg. Lots of topping no training. Lollipopped and staked. Heavy defoliation. They are basically just top 1/3 of plant all chunkers. This what they look like under...

Lollipopped about half of these girls all the way up nothing but chunks!!

Heres some defoliation at its finest. If people think defoliation doesnt work and reduces yield than I am sorry to say but your out of your minds. These ladies are just into week 5 (Day 38) and they ade already the size of soda bottle. They still have about 3.5 weeks left until harvest and they...

Heres a couple cola shots. Week 5 day 3 (Day 38 of Bloom) colas little bigger than these soda bottles. Gonna be some chunks in here!! This is the Fruity Chronic Juice just have a couple of these girls I threw into the room. So who says defoliation doesnt work? LOL. It sure does. These are gonna...

Yeah I strip everything under the top 3 nodes. That way all you have is nice chunk colas. Kyle Kushman is the one who really put this growing method on the map (from what I know). If you go onto his webpage or even his FB he has detailed steps regarding doing this training method and he gets...

I thought this too but theres a few on market that Ive seen run neck and neck w gavitas and outperform hid's. The bml spyder is legit. Ive seen tests and results of them outperforming hid and gavita double ends. They r def pricey but pay u back over time. Im running the kind led's (got a...

Im also gonna be switching to all led's from here on out and dumping these hid's for a little while. Been getting some good results from my trial runs using these kind led's at my buddy's house. Quality is superb. Only concern is light penetration and coverage. I got plant restrictions so idk if...

What are you running for lights and containers on these ladies?

Oh I didnt know that. Last time I was at the hydro shop they had free samples of that stuff on the counter. I dont believe they carry their nutrient line but I didnt really look for it either, Ill have to check it out. My next runs are going to all be amended by hand. Not gonna be using...

Sorry im not familiar with the k9 just see whats in the mix. As long as it doesnt come pre charged that should be fine. Obviously dont use straight coco mix or anything like that because that will cause all kinds of issues down the road. Id try just use a simple peat based mix no nutrients...

Ok thats what I assumed. Thats the tricky part figuring out when their base mix needs more nutrients. You almost want to wait for them to lighten up (become deficienct) or check runoff ppm periodically with pure water and write it down for reference. Basically you want to use the FFOF for the...

Yeah the Harpin Proteins they have for foliar application is supposed to be really legit. My buddy actually uses them on his grow and swear by that stuff. I'll have to look more into it as I am always down to try out new products. Those flowers definetely look like they are chunking up nicely...

How long did you veg in the ocean forest for? Problem is that soil comes super hot out of the bag. If u checked run off with just water it would probably be over 2000 ppm. When you use that medium you dont need any nutrients for 3-4 weeks. All you need is water 6.5-6.8 Than once the nutrients...

Thats because nutrient burn usually effects the upper growth where all nutrients are sent during feedings. It will slowly effect the entire plant if you dont stop feeding them immediately!! I dont know if those can even be saved they look pretty burnt up man. Thats not just from one high feeding...

Damn my friend, you burned those to the ground. What medium are you in? And you said you were using Fox Farm Bloom nutrients for your bases and also using the AN additives? What ml/gallon bases and what dosage of additives were you running? When you mixed up this nutrient what ppm or ec was...

I will say this is one hell of a stinky strain ehh? I dont know about you but I had to add another carbon scrubber to the room. I have the big 4 footer and it just wasn't enough. I went and took the one out of my veg tent and added that to the room too. Im definetely stoked about the quality and...

Hey not trying to jack your thread just show you some of my girls. This is day 36 (Week 5 Day 1) update of SAGE n SOUR. I think they are finally hitting the bulking phase now. They seemed to take awhile to get here, I think I am on schedule fingers crossed. So you're gonna cut yours around day...

I like how they grow short and stocky with good bud development and didnt stretch much. Only 1 of them is the different pheno which I put to the side its about a foot taller and lankier more sativa dominant pheno. I wont be using those cuts I took earlier for anything (gonna scrap them). The...

Im hoping they are just some late bloomers. I was running the a g13 haze cross which is a 50 day cut so those exploded with quick growth. I've been running those for a little bit so these ones are throwing me off as they are no where near as developed at 4 weeks. Guess I have to play the waiting...