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  1. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    Well, it's seems I hurt Erik's feelings with a recent comment I made on rollitup. This led to an unpleasant exchange via email that sort of put into perspective the depth of arrogance of Grower's Choice and Erik at LGLD. I've been in a mad rush to replace these 720 boat anchor's with little...
  2. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    That's what i wanted to believe, i even defended him at one point but the bottom line is he should have had my back with GC.
  3. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    I'm not getting anymore 720's, they are junk.
  4. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    He's been defeated. The truth is out. They have agreed to take back these e720 paperweights at no cost to me, but the damage is done and forgiveness is not a trait i have. The video even forced "Erik" at ledGrowLightDepot to stop falsely advertising the e720 with "boost" mode. iv'e even seen the...
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    New roi-e720 available in few days. Would this be a better upgrade from 1000w se hps?

    yeah, that's not good imo. I have my 680 at 18" from the canopy and it's still dropping 1200+ from that distance vs the e720 that has to be within 6" and then only in some spots does it reach 1200. The fact that grower's Choice advertises these with "boost" which they even admit does not exist...
  6. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    Wish it was tommorow.
  7. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    I totally would have gone with HLG but i want the bar layout. chill is good but slightly overpriced when the roi680 can offer the same for only 850...that's right folks, if you paid more then 850 for the roi680 you got gyped. Grower's Choice has a preset discount of price of $850 shipped and tax...
  8. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    Correct, but I wouldn't buy a light off amazon at all, They offer nothing good. I own and operate a perpetual Hydro garden for military veterans, I can't afford to risk a day without lights, let alone weeks. not to mention what good is a warranty if your 1000$ LED light goes to poop 3 years into...
  9. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    No, you are correct sir. However keep in mind your PAR meter is picking loud amounts of PAR from other ranges, and off the top of my head around 30-50% of the 660Nm for flower and 440Nm you need for veg. my rec for people buying LED for VEG is don't go to crazy with the Umols, 300-400 max in my...
  10. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    Well dude, the middle man was in on the take. Erik Is a Hussler. Updated the post. they are both still advertising it with boost mode. I can take a lot, but don't mess with my money or my dream and they did both. I'm good, I have resources, but if I can help some poor Schmuck who's working his...
  11. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    Throat Chop delivered.. So that finally solves the mystery than, Grower's Choice sent me TWO defective or what I suspect are used lights! So tell me Erik, why then did Grower's Choice refuse to send me two replacement lights unless I sent back the TWO defective lights first and waited for them...
  12. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    How long did you veg and bloom? what strain?
  13. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    lmao...Gonna check it out now
  14. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    Damage control They are in serious Damage control mode. Erik continues to advertise and sell the light as having "boost" mode, which makes his credibility non existent. people have even begun to post links to the youtube video on the ledgrowlightsdeopot webpage in the review section. the cat is...
  15. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    740 is the standard, 800 is the boost mode. hence the 1780(standard) and 2080(boost). Also the selector knob says 720w. all confusing.
  16. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    lmao...I have a certain set of skills, most of which revolve around being a pain in GC's arse. I was very excited about taking my game to the next level grow wise. I went through a lot of trouble and waiting to get my hands on these and put them up. GC screwed me and when caught, screwed me some...
  17. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    quick update, after hooking the e720's to a wattage meter I discovered that they draw 770 watts, not 720 as claimed. Just Another fail to add to the pile. Also, i noticed today that despite being told by Grower's Choice that the E720 does not come with boost mode, Erik at LGLD continues to sell...
  18. NeverOutgunned

    Is the ROI-E680 a good light?

    nope, nor twice the wait either.
  19. NeverOutgunned

    Grower's Choice ROI-E720 MAJOR FAIL!

    Erik from LGLD's response to me showing him the manual for the E720 proving the light was suppose to have "boost", so basically he's saying Grower's Choice is false advertising these lights 1870-standard mode 2080-boost mode "I understand what it says, but the units do not come with it. Trust...
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